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YakDout 05-04-2020 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Newguyhere (Post 305205)
It's just weird bc it seems to work fine under 100 feet.


If there are other boats and or kayaks in the area, that interference can be caused by they’re transducer. Especially if their gain is high. The waves between your boats are essentially crossing each other.


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Salty 05-05-2020 11:13 AM

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What destroyed my mac?? Mac was on a 6oz drop shot. No sea lions in the area. Got this mark and about a minute later this happened to my mac. Could feel several strong hits, kept the drag a little loose, hoping it would take the hook. Something ran with it pretty good, then nothing. Twisted the hook up pretty good/

SoCalEDC 05-05-2020 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Salty (Post 306568)
What destroyed my mac?? Mac was on a 6oz drop shot. No sea lions in the area. Got this mark and about a minute later this happened to my mac. Could feel several strong hits, kept the drag a little loose, hoping it would take the hook. Something ran with it pretty good, then nothing. Twisted the hook up pretty good/

You sure it wasn't a sea lion? I have had them do that exact same thing to my baits on multiple occasions. They are smart enough to avoid that hook (usually)

Salty 05-05-2020 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalEDC (Post 306570)
You sure it wasn't a sea lion? I have had them do that exact same thing to my baits on multiple occasions. They are smart enough to avoid that hook (usually)

Yeah, I've had them do the exact same thing many times too(and same thing with roosters in southern Baja!). Sea lions were not around me at the time. Usually I'll see them in the area approaching or mark them diving/surfacing on the finder. Whatever it was was hitting it in about 5 second intervals before finally running with it. and taking everything but the head. Weight was on the bottom, Mac was about 10" up the line on a short dropper loop

GregAndrew 07-15-2020 07:23 PM

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Well, this thread has not seen much action for a while. Though I might add a few pics for discussion. What do you think you see here?

socal.beach.bum 07-15-2020 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309136)
Well, this thread has not seen much action for a while. Though I might add a few pics for discussion. What do you think you see here?

Looks like berries chasing a bait ball.

deptrai 07-16-2020 08:49 AM

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Last weekend.
Raymarine Dragonfly7Pro. Transducer mounted in Hobie Outback external pocket with BerleyPro cover.

School of Black Rockfish outside of Depoe Bay.

socal.beach.bum 07-16-2020 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by deptrai (Post 309145)
Last weekend.
Raymarine Dragonfly7Pro. Transducer mounted in Hobie Outback external pocket with BerleyPro cover.

School of Black Rockfish outside of Depoe Bay.

So jealous you guys get to pull up dungies up there.

chris138 07-16-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309136)
Well, this thread has not seen much action for a while. Though I might add a few pics for discussion. What do you think you see here?

My guess is this is a giant squadron of bat rays feeding on smelt. :eek:

Haha rad marks Greg, why do I get the feeling your downrigger cam is in there somewhere. :luxhello:

FullFlavorPike 07-16-2020 12:25 PM

Maybe that first photo is a large torpedo weight, with a fish coming off the bottom, eating the attached bait, and then pulling a GTFO downwards and out of the sonar cone.

Polychrest 07-16-2020 12:45 PM

Great info in here. Couple of noob questions.
1. What depth should I switch from High to Mid CHIRP?
2. Any reason to not use CHIRP?

GregAndrew 07-16-2020 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Polychrest (Post 309155)
Great info in here. Couple of noob questions.
1. What depth should I switch from High to Mid CHIRP?
2. Any reason to not use CHIRP?

You are better off thinking of that first question in reverse. You want to use medium where you can and switch to High when you are getting too much clutter on your screen. But the answer is going to be based on your settings. The lower you have your sensitivity set at, the shallower you can use it.

After using Chirp, and getting my settings worked in, I dont see any reason I would go back to standard.

GregAndrew 07-16-2020 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 309151)
My guess is this is a giant squadron of bat rays feeding on smelt. :eek:

Haha rad marks Greg, why do I get the feeling your downrigger cam is in there somewhere. :luxhello:

The second shot had my camera down there. Had to bring it up off the bottom and into the mix. You can see it 8 or 10 feet off the bottom on the left side.

GregAndrew 07-16-2020 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike (Post 309153)
Maybe that first photo is a large torpedo weight, with a fish coming off the bottom, eating the attached bait, and then pulling a GTFO downwards and out of the sonar cone.

That is a very good start, but there is more to it than that.

SoCalEDC 07-16-2020 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309136)
Well, this thread has not seen much action for a while. Though I might add a few pics for discussion. What do you think you see here?

pic one looks like weight or jig and fish coming up off of the bottom to strike it, and then dropping it shortly after, perhaps it struck the weight rather than the bait. Maybe a halibut, who realizes hes been had.

The second looks like a school of bigger fish maybe calicos feeding on sardines or another small-medium sized bait fish around some kelp.

if i had to guess.

GregAndrew 07-17-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalEDC (Post 309166)
pic one looks like weight or jig and fish coming up off of the bottom to strike it, and then dropping it shortly after, perhaps it struck the weight rather than the bait. Maybe a halibut, who realizes hes been had.

The second looks like a school of bigger fish maybe calicos feeding on sardines or another small-medium sized bait fish around some kelp.

if i had to guess.

Another couple of pretty good guesses. On the first one you pretty much got it up until "perhaps". Btw, Halibut have no air bladder and will not give you a very strong return (color) until they are pretty close to your transducer.

On the second, you were doing pretty good up until "calicos".

TCS 07-17-2020 08:21 PM

What Palette on Lowrance?
 
What Palette do folks use for fishing LJ?

GregAndrew 07-18-2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TCS (Post 309205)
What Palette do folks use for fishing LJ?

You should be able to put your unit in simulation mode and play around with your pallette, sensitivity and colorline. Chose a pallette that your eye picks up strong returns with best.

chris138 07-20-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TCS (Post 309205)
What Palette do folks use for fishing LJ?

Personally I like the default white Lowrance best. I played around with blue background variations but they just don't pop as well in the glare for me.

FISH11 07-20-2020 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 309266)
Personally I like the default white Lowrance best. I played around with blue background variations but they just don't pop as well in the glare for me.

X2

JohnMckroidJr 07-21-2020 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309136)
Though I might add a few pics for discussion. What do you think you see here?

First one:
The line at 50ft from left to center screen is a lead weight or jig of some sort. A predator fish comes up and checks it out. The weight gets pulled up to about 40 ft, then lowered back down towards the bottom as it approaches the cloud of bait on the right side of the screen.

Most of the productive fishing in my area is in 2-5 times that depth of water. When I use a downrigger, I see similar stuff.

Second one:
Is tougher because there is no reference of depth distances to help determine the size of the targets. On the far left, I see the weight or jig? (straight line...as it is dragged into the school). I will guess a large form of baitfish, possibly with some interference, or possibly feeding on a smaller form of baitfish.

In my area, That looks like Barjacks or Bluerunner, neither of which are on the West Coast.


Any UW video?

GregAndrew 07-21-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnMckroidJr (Post 309296)
First one:
The line at 50ft from left to center screen is a lead weight or jig of some sort. A predator fish comes up and checks it out. The weight gets pulled up to about 40 ft, then lowered back down towards the bottom as it approaches the cloud of bait on the right side of the screen.

Most of the productive fishing in my area is in 2-5 times that depth of water. When I use a downrigger, I see similar stuff.

Second one:
Is tougher because there is no reference of depth distances to help determine the size of the targets. On the far left, I see the weight or jig? (straight line...as it is dragged into the school). I will guess a large form of baitfish, possibly with some interference, or possibly feeding on a smaller form of baitfish.

In my area, That looks like Barjacks or Bluerunner, neither of which are on the West Coast.


Any UW video?

The first one is my 8oz torpedo on the left side. You can make out my 10" Greenie barely as the broken dotted line above the sinker. The fish bit and spit initially, then you can see that I began to bounce my bait by what the sinker is doing (bait had been on the hook for a while, and I did not know how lively it was). A bit before both big marks end, the fish bit again and this time it stuck. Both sinker and fish left my sonar cone quickly (although in opposite directions). That fish ended up being a 64# WSB.

The second one is my downrigger ball down below the school of fish on the left side. You can vaguely make out that I cranked it up in 2 steps a total of about 12 feet (in order to put my camera in the middle of the school). I also cranked up my bait after each of the steps, to bring it back in view. The vertical movements on the right side are when the fish bit and I set the hook. Although I did not maintain good pressure, and allowed the fish to shake the hook. But I did get the bite on video (but it is poor visibility). That was a school of WSB probably in the 25-40# range (at least the ones I could see).

Oolie 07-21-2020 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309308)
The first one is my 8oz torpedo on the left side. You can make out my 10" Greenie barely as the broken dotted line above the sinker. The fish bit and spit initially, then you can see that I began to bounce my bait by what the sinker is doing (bait had been on the hook for a while, and I did not know how lively it was). A bit before both big marks end, the fish bit again and this time it stuck. Both sinker and fish left my sonar cone quickly (although in opposite directions). That fish ended up being a 64# WSB.

The second one is my downrigger ball down below the school of fish on the left side. You can vaguely make out that I cranked it up in 2 steps a total of about 12 feet (in order to put my camera in the middle of the school). I also cranked up my bait after each of the steps, to bring it back in view. The vertical movements on the right side are when the fish bit and I set the hook. Although I did not maintain good pressure, and allowed the fish to shake the hook. But I did get the bite on video (but it is poor visibility). That was a school of WSB probably in the 25-40# range (at least the ones I could see).

Congrats!

chris138 07-22-2020 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309308)
The first one is my 8oz torpedo on the left side. You can make out my 10" Greenie barely as the broken dotted line above the sinker. The fish bit and spit initially, then you can see that I began to bounce my bait by what the sinker is doing (bait had been on the hook for a while, and I did not know how lively it was). A bit before both big marks end, the fish bit again and this time it stuck. Both sinker and fish left my sonar cone quickly (although in opposite directions). That fish ended up being a 64# WSB.

The second one is my downrigger ball down below the school of fish on the left side. You can vaguely make out that I cranked it up in 2 steps a total of about 12 feet (in order to put my camera in the middle of the school). I also cranked up my bait after each of the steps, to bring it back in view. The vertical movements on the right side are when the fish bit and I set the hook. Although I did not maintain good pressure, and allowed the fish to shake the hook. But I did get the bite on video (but it is poor visibility). That was a school of WSB probably in the 25-40# range (at least the ones I could see).

I call BS without the video. Looks like bat rays to me.

;):notworthy:

GregAndrew 07-22-2020 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 309327)
I call BS without the video. Looks like bat rays to me.

;):notworthy:

Yep, you caught me Chris!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW4XWP17hVE

SoCalEDC 07-23-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309335)

Thats one of the coolest underwater "home" videos I've seen

JohnMckroidJr 07-23-2020 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 309308)
The first one is my 8oz torpedo on the left side. You can make out my 10" Greenie barely as the broken dotted line above the sinker. The fish bit and spit initially, then you can see that I began to bounce my bait by what the sinker is doing (bait had been on the hook for a while, and I did not know how lively it was). A bit before both big marks end, the fish bit again and this time it stuck. Both sinker and fish left my sonar cone quickly (although in opposite directions). That fish ended up being a 64# WSB.

The second one is my downrigger ball down below the school of fish on the left side. You can vaguely make out that I cranked it up in 2 steps a total of about 12 feet (in order to put my camera in the middle of the school). I also cranked up my bait after each of the steps, to bring it back in view. The vertical movements on the right side are when the fish bit and I set the hook. Although I did not maintain good pressure, and allowed the fish to shake the hook. But I did get the bite on video (but it is poor visibility). That was a school of WSB probably in the 25-40# range (at least the ones I could see).

Congrats on the first one, nice fish story on the second one, cool video of the Bat Rays.


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