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Mr_Fixit 11-09-2016 08:27 AM

Truck Recomendations
 
Greetings all you super knowledgeable experts,

I am DONE loading my Outback on my Prius. I want to get a truck. At some point I also want to get a small fishing boat. I know stating "Small fishing boat" is a hugely general term, and I have started looking to see what is out there and price ranges, but have not settled on anything. But, I want a boat small enough to carry on a trailer.

I know I want the truck to be a 4x4 specifically so I can easily deal with LJ launches and attend some of these fishing trips in Mexico. What do you guys recommend for a decent truck? I have been looking at the F150's, but Toyota also makes some that might work. If I were simply concerned about transporting my yak, this would be simple. But, I want to be able to tow around a boat at some point.

Thanks for your tips.

Mahigeer 11-09-2016 08:36 AM

As an old Toyota mechanic, I am bias toward Toyota.

With exception of a Dodge cargo van (Toyota does not make/sell that size in US), all my vehicles are Toyotas.


Nothing but problem with my previous Chevy and now Dodge van.

Dannowar 11-09-2016 08:36 AM

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...bb9932da10.jpg


I like my Tacoma. Get 4wd and never look back.


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monstahfish 11-09-2016 10:41 AM

Are you buying new or used? I've had a handful of Fords and they are making a great product right now. As an industrial designer I can say that I'm very impressed by the engineering and design features on the new f150 and would buy one but I'm holding off for the smaller ranger that will be coming out late next year. My 2011 escape has close to 100k miles on it, and done probably more offroad, towing and car topping than any other out there and has only one minor issue with a computer glitch where it gives a hard shift once a month. Totally different vehicle but gives you an idea of how well their vehicles run. Toyotas are good too can't knock em.

alanw 11-09-2016 11:01 AM

Support our workers, buy American. I'm partial to Ford, 15 years now in my 4x4 F150 and still going strong with only minor work done. Had a F150 before this one that I traded to get the 4x4.

Mr_Fixit 11-09-2016 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by monstahfish (Post 271645)
Are you buying new or used? I've had a handful of Fords and they are making a great product right now. As an industrial designer I can say that I'm very impressed by the engineering and design features on the new f150 and would buy one but I'm holding off for the smaller ranger that will be coming out late next year. My 2011 escape has close to 100k miles on it, and done probably more offroad, towing and car topping than any other out there and has only one minor issue with a computer glitch where it gives a hard shift once a month. Totally different vehicle but gives you an idea of how well their vehicles run. Toyotas are good too can't knock em.

I am looking for used. Assuming its reliable. I am an engineer, but a software engineer. I can t STAND dealing with... {{Disgust}} mechanics... {{cringe}}.. Nuts... bolts... washers.... gaskets!!!! what horrid things! Hell, I dont even change my own oil. car diarrhea... gads get a diaper folks!

I also have a preference for American Made. Ford or Dodge.. MakoBob recommended (A GLOWING recommendation) Ram 2500. F150 is what I was thinking, but that is why I ask. Now I am expanding my scope.

YakDout 11-09-2016 02:11 PM

If you dont go full size diesel, at least consider an eco-diesel. Such as the ram 1500. If you HAVE to go f150 I would go eco-boost. The advantage of the diesels are fuel economy and power. Definitely get the 4 wheel drive. The new titan xd's with the optional cummins look good on paper and I believe toyota will be coming into the diesel world very soon also.

tacmik 11-09-2016 02:33 PM

The way I look at it is that most vehicles in the same price range are pretty much equal. Look for what you can afford that fits your needs and who really cares if it is a ford or Toyota or dodge or chevy. In the same price range they are pretty much equal. Buying used look at what comes with it and the maintenance that was done on it.

Mahigeer 11-09-2016 02:56 PM

When you go to this link, you will see that the Toyota Tacoma is assembled in San Antonio Texas.
Which the last time I checked, it is still in the United States.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._United_States

If you are old enough to remember Ford had a commercial which said something to the effect that
“Quality is job one and Ford has improved 50%”. 50%?? It had that much room for improvement?

Be sure to listen to any diesel that you buy. Your neighbors may not like it every time you start it.
Toyota parts and service are not cheap, but the factory part is what makes them reliable.

Establishing a relation with an independent auto shop is a good way to get good service at a less than dealer price.

Consumer Report magazine and website is a less bias place to look for ratings. They are done by actual owners of the vehicles.

Good luck anyway you choose.

kayakfisherman 11-09-2016 03:05 PM

My 4x4 toyota saved my life in a recent roll over on the ortega. I just surpassed the 300K mark.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...1/IMG_4144.JPG

chris138 11-09-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanw (Post 271647)
Support our workers, buy American. I'm partial to Ford, 15 years now in my 4x4 F150 and still going strong with only minor work done. Had a F150 before this one that I traded to get the 4x4.

Toyota Tacoma: made in San Antonio, Texas

Ford 150: made in Mexico

ful-rac 11-09-2016 03:42 PM

I Love what you do for ME!!!!!
 
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YakDout 11-09-2016 03:46 PM

There is a reason people are partial to manufacturers, it can and will make a difference. Some cars, some years, were just plain flops! Do your research and end up with a good vehicle.

FleshandBlood 11-09-2016 03:59 PM

You can never go wrong with a Tacoma or Tundra built to last and I mean it. There is a reason why you will consistently see Toyotas with 200 plus thousand miles all day long for sale. I'm in the same boat as you looking at both options and what is out there. I've decided to tow a 17 foot center console with an FJ Cruiser. Incredibly dependable and 4x4.

skrilla 11-09-2016 04:32 PM

Toyota. 250k and still going strong. Besides oil changes this year the only other thing I had to replace was the air freshener.

Raskal311 11-09-2016 04:53 PM

I've been eyeing a Silverado... so pretty

alanw 11-09-2016 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 271666)
Toyota Tacoma: made in San Antonio, Texas - profits shipped overseas

Ford 150: made in Michigan and Missouri

Fixed it for you

bus kid 11-09-2016 06:27 PM

my 2006 Nissan Titan has 150k miles and 4 oil changes , yes you read that right 4 oil changes. I'm on my 3rd set of tires, and 2nd battery. It pulls our skipjack no problem, to the Sacramento river, Havasu, and San Diego all from the OC this past summer. Get what you can afford. not just monthly payment but insurance and gas too!

Raskal311 11-09-2016 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 271697)
my 2006 Nissan Titan has 150k miles and 4 oil changes , yes you read that right 4 oil changes. I'm on my 3rd set of tires, and 2nd battery. It pulls our skipjack no problem, to the Sacramento river, Havasu, and San Diego all from the OC this past summer. Get what you can afford. not just monthly payment but insurance and gas too!

"Just because you could it doesn't mean you should". LoL picked up a 2012 titan recently.... god dam thing gets 9mpg without any cargo... god damit. LoL

cris 11-09-2016 08:13 PM

Man that picture is one of my dreams

bus kid 11-09-2016 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raskal311 (Post 271700)
"Just because you could it doesn't mean you should". LoL picked up a 2012 titan recently.... god dam thing gets 9mpg without any cargo... god damit. LoL


Amsoil. And get it tuned. I get 18 streets 27 highway. Daily driver.

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/tita...1816?_k=js8cxn

Ggiannig89 11-09-2016 08:18 PM

Another Happy Toyota owner here. I've got two actually. 1st is an 08 with 240,000 on it with no work other then maintenance. The other a 4X4 2013 50k.
Strong motor and no problems.
In the end get what's going to get the job done and make you feel good about driving.

DanaPT 11-10-2016 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kayakfisherman (Post 271662)
My 4x4 toyota saved my life in a recent roll over on the ortega. I just surpassed the 300K mark.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...1/IMG_4144.JPG

Yani, that is a serious wreck. I'm glad you are okay and able to fish another day!

mrJB 11-10-2016 11:34 AM

See what happens when you are COOKNG AND DRIVING! :eek:

Raskal311 11-10-2016 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 271703)
Amsoil. And get it tuned. I get 18 streets 27 highway. Daily driver.

http://www.titantalk.com/forums/tita...1816?_k=js8cxn

The advertised mpg is 13/18 and a pretty modifier rig I'm not going to improve my mpg by much but I'll definitely check that out.

2-Stix 11-10-2016 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 271666)
Toyota Tacoma: made in San Antonio, Texas

Ford 150: made in Mexico

Yup! Most toyotas are made in america.

YakDout 11-10-2016 05:39 PM

Made and assembled two different things. But I back toyota all the way.

Mr_Fixit 11-11-2016 08:20 AM

Ok. So there are tons of recommendations. Let me ask a more fundamental question since I dont know squat about trucks. Yes, I am researching but its kinda like - I dont know what question to ask.

What equipment is needed on a truck to tow a small boat? By small, I mean something like this. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/5861753200.html

I was looking at Ford's website and they have so many options its overwhelming! Transmission cooling systems, break connections, and a million other things that simply went over my software engineering head.

I want to buy a boat, get it to the launch, and get some damn fish on deck. All this complexity is frustrating. LOL

taggermike 11-11-2016 08:31 AM

You don't need a full sized truck to pull a small boat. But a full sized bed is nice for carry yaks n small boats.

I'll drop a thought that others have not mentioned. Baja can be brutal on trucks. Auto accidents, crappy roads, hitting live stock, possibly losing a truck to Mexican law enforcement, and the strangely common fate of getting stuck in the sand with a rising tide.

A buddy of mine had an amazing Sports Mobile custom 4x4 camper van. It didn't break his bank but he found he was feeling anxious about the value of the vehicle. He sold it and got a older dodge 4x4 diesel truck. Thing runs like a top but is ugly as shit with dents, Bondo, and mismatch body panels. It can go any where, tow any thing, parts are available in Baja, and we never attract unwanted attention from law enforcement.

His logic of getting this truck was that if some thing bad happened he could grab his ID, a few valuables, and walk away from it w/o being our a bunch for and broken hearted.

This might not apply to you if you're mostly in the US. But when I see guys in Baja with epic trucks that they still owe 50k on I wonder how they'd handle abandoning it. Mike

Mr_Fixit 11-11-2016 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taggermike (Post 271763)
You don't need a full sized truck to pull a small boat. But a full sized bed is nice for carry yaks n small boats.

I'll drop a thought that others have not mentioned. Baja can be brutal on trucks. Auto accidents, crappy roads, hitting live stock, possibly losing a truck to Mexican law enforcement, and the strangely common fate of getting stuck in the sand with a rising tide.

A buddy of mine had an amazing Sports Mobile custom 4x4 camper van. It didn't break his bank but he found he was feeling anxious about the value of the vehicle. He sold it and got a older dodge 4x4 diesel truck. Thing runs like a top but is ugly as shit with dents, Bondo, and mismatch body panels. It can go any where, tow any thing, parts are available in Baja, and we never attract unwanted attention from law enforcement.

His logic of getting this truck was that if some thing bad happened he could grab his ID, a few valuables, and walk away from it w/o being our a bunch for and broken hearted.

This might not apply to you if you're mostly in the US. But when I see guys in Baja with epic trucks that they still owe 50k on I wonder how they'd handle abandoning it. Mike

You noted precisely why I HATE going to Mexico.

makobob 11-11-2016 09:04 AM

Looking at the boat you want to pull, you might just need a full sized truck. Not really to tow it but to STOP it safely in a tight spot. As far as Mexico goes, YOUR attitude is EVERYTHING. If you need SAFE traveling hints for Baja pm me, I'll be glad to help you in the right direction. Tight Lines and good hunting for your truck.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Fixit (Post 271765)
You noted precisely why I HATE going to Mexico.


YakDout 11-13-2016 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taggermike (Post 271763)
You don't need a full sized truck to pull a small boat. But a full sized bed is nice for carry yaks n small boats.



I'll drop a thought that others have not mentioned. Baja can be brutal on trucks. Auto accidents, crappy roads, hitting live stock, possibly losing a truck to Mexican law enforcement, and the strangely common fate of getting stuck in the sand with a rising tide.



A buddy of mine had an amazing Sports Mobile custom 4x4 camper van. It didn't break his bank but he found he was feeling anxious about the value of the vehicle. He sold it and got a older dodge 4x4 diesel truck. Thing runs like a top but is ugly as shit with dents, Bondo, and mismatch body panels. It can go any where, tow any thing, parts are available in Baja, and we never attract unwanted attention from law enforcement.



His logic of getting this truck was that if some thing bad happened he could grab his ID, a few valuables, and walk away from it w/o being our a bunch for and broken hearted.



This might not apply to you if you're mostly in the US. But when I see guys in Baja with epic trucks that they still owe 50k on I wonder how they'd handle abandoning it. Mike



I insure my truck every time I go to mexico. I pay roughly $100 for full coverage and insures my truck up to 25k. At minimum you need liability down there. You dont want to get caught up in a accident down there without that, so you have to get some type of insurance anyway.

Here is a frequently asked question straight from baja bound website where I get my policy. Read the first sentence of number 9.


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Holy Mackerel 11-13-2016 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Fixit (Post 271762)
Ok. So there are tons of recommendations. Let me ask a more fundamental question since I dont know squat about trucks. Yes, I am researching but its kinda like - I dont know what question to ask.

What equipment is needed on a truck to tow a small boat? By small, I mean something like this. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/5861753200.html

I was looking at Ford's website and they have so many options its overwhelming! Transmission cooling systems, break connections, and a million other things that simply went over my software engineering head.

I want to buy a boat, get it to the launch, and get some damn fish on deck. All this complexity is frustrating. LOL

You'd probably want a 1/2 ton with class 3 hitch, for that striper. I got a 3.5L F150 ecoboost, so far so good. V6 twin turbo tows more than my previous V8 5.4L I am sure the 2.7L would be fine for that striper. I heard good stuff about the Ram 1500 eco diesel too.

Mr. NiceGuy 11-13-2016 04:34 PM

https://lenta.co/images/a/16/26/57058706c259c.jpg
MB Sprinter

The short wheel base of the two options is long enough to slide my Outback kayak inside with ease. I think it's about 20' bumper to bumper. The extended chassis is a few feet longer if you want more cargo area for something bigger. Get a tow package if you want to pull a trailer. I wouldn't be without one. Available with windows as a crew cab or passenger van.

The 4x4 sits higher than the 2WD, so I may or may not choose the low roof configuration for myself. I'm adding a small shower and toilet, then re-registering from commercial van to a personal motorhome for lower yearly fees, lower insurance, and camping convenience. The toilet and shower I use in my Chevy Express van now are modular and portable, so there's no need for installation, tanks, etc.

I've driven trucks all my life prior to my current Chevy Express 3500 passenger van. I like the additional cargo space of a van. I like the convenience of locking everything inside rather than the more limited space available under a shell for a truck. I like the lower loading point through the back doors, compared to a truck.

This particular photo looks like it has dulies in the rear. That's overkill unless you plan on carrying a very heavy payload. I would choose single wheels with good all terrain tires.


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