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lowprofile 02-13-2012 04:46 PM

saw a white today...
 
driving to work up in san o, going along the 5 north i was watching birds circle out in front of SONGS when the water exploded, fish and dolphins hitting bait and out of nowhere this shark leaps completely into the air, turns sideways and lands on its side with a big splash. judging by the size of the birds, dolphins and surfers sitting on the swells, id say it was over 10ft. maybe 12. just inside the marker boueys. coolest thing i've seen on the way to work so far. :cool:

Mr. Adventure 02-13-2012 05:11 PM

Fffffffffffffffffffudge, I would be totally okay seein that one from the freeway.

William Novotny 02-13-2012 10:06 PM

Are you sure it was a white? As far as I know, GWS breaching is a trait that is unique to Seal Island in south america due to the "ring of death", an underwater channel that circles the island and allows the whites to ambush seals crossing over the ring from below. If it was a white then it was a very rare glimps of activity we don't get to see in our waters

lowprofile 02-13-2012 10:59 PM

ya it was a white, huge pectoral fins and too much body to be a Mako. i've seen plenty of threshers and mako's go airborn and only one white before this, but it was enough to imprint a lasting image.

Mr. Adventure 02-13-2012 11:18 PM

Those things are like my worst fear on the planet

Mr. Adventure 02-13-2012 11:20 PM

Those things are like my worst fear on the planet

lowprofile 02-13-2012 11:27 PM

and thinking about it, its only like 20ft deep there. and this thing got completely out of the water. imagine what it could do at La Jolla in 100ft of water.

Mr. Adventure 02-14-2012 12:32 AM

Shut up, I'm totally safe in anything less than 100 ft of water.

bus kid 02-14-2012 05:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107217)
Are you sure it was a white? As far as I know, GWS breaching is a trait that is unique to Seal Island in south america due to the "ring of death", an underwater channel that circles the island and allows the whites to ambush seals crossing over the ring from below. If it was a white then it was a very rare glimps of activity we don't get to see in our waters

FYI.

http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktl...,4449964.story

KTLA News 10:47 a.m. PDT, June 8, 2010

PACIFIC PALISADES -- A local surfer says he has seen at least 12 great white sharks breaching along the coast, and captured some on video.

Setting up cameras at Will Rodgers State Beach, surfer Randy Wright says he has caught four great sharks on tape, and two of them in the past week alone.

video here

http://www.thedorsalfin.com/shark-ne...eo-california/

oneyedeer 02-14-2012 07:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107217)
Are you sure it was a white? As far as I know, GWS breaching is a trait that is unique to Seal Island in south america due to the "ring of death", an underwater channel that circles the island and allows the whites to ambush seals crossing over the ring from below. If it was a white then it was a very rare glimps of activity we don't get to see in our waters

California is a great place to vacation :)

"Shut up, I'm totally safe in anything less than 100 ft of water."

Majority of attacks occur <100ft of water lol even the less then symbol agrees only if i can put shark teeth on it

William Novotny 02-14-2012 07:39 AM

This is still a very rare occurence. You've got one california surfer that spend his life in the same stretch of water every day. He got to observe and document something that is normally NOT a regular behavior to w hites in our waters. Not saying it can't or doesn't happen.....just saying that if it was a GWS, then congrats. Not many get the chance to see something like that and almost never in 20'. Think about it, if it was a 12' shark then he had less then his body legth to build up enough speed to launch 1000#+ clear out of the water vertical? Excuse my scepticism. Not saying it didn't happen, just sayin......

William Novotny 02-14-2012 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Adventure (Post 107228)
Shut up, I'm totally safe in anything less than 100 ft of water.

And id feel safer in 100' of water with one white then in 20' with a bunch of pissed off sealions

dos ballenas 02-14-2012 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107217)
Are you sure it was a white? As far as I know, GWS breaching is a trait that is unique to Seal Island in south america due to the "ring of death", an underwater channel that circles the island and allows the whites to ambush seals crossing over the ring from below. If it was a white then it was a very rare glimps of activity we don't get to see in our waters

you must have missed shark week last year ;)

They proved that great whites will breach the surface to attack seals on our coast in a very similar matter to the sharks off South Africa... the reason they don't do it as often here is related to the bathymetric features you described about the island.

When they towed the fake seal off our coast, and around the Faralon Islands, the sharks responded but jumping out of the water.... Yes they don't breach as often, but it does happen.



IF you really want to scare yourself spend some time reading the reports on this link! :eek:

http://www.sharkresearchcommittee.co...shark_news.htm


Sunset Beach — On June 2, 2010 Randy Wright provided the following two reports of shark breachings from Sunset Beach. The photographs were obtained from his video tapes.

http://www.sharkresearchcommittee.co..._news_2010.htm

Click this link and scroll down to see the photos...

dos ballenas 02-14-2012 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107239)
Think about it, if it was a 12' shark then he had less then his body legth to build up enough speed to launch 1000#+ clear out of the water vertical? Excuse my scepticism. Not saying it didn't happen, just sayin......

You sir, must know everything. Just sayin...

William Novotny 02-14-2012 07:54 AM

This goes back to what I was saying
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dos ballenas (Post 107241)
you must have missed shark week last year ;)

They proved that great whites will breach the surface to attack seals on our coast in a very similar matter to the sharks off South Africa... the reason they don't do it as often here is related to the bathymetric features you described about the island.

When they towed the fake seal off our coast, and around the Faralon Islands, the sharks responded but jumping out of the water.... Yes they don't breach as often, but it does happen.



IF you really want to scare yourself spend some time reading the reports on this link! :eek:

http://www.sharkresearchcommittee.co...shark_news.htm

Can it happen?: yes
Does it happen?: on occasion
In 20' of water?: not a cold chance in hell

William Novotny 02-14-2012 08:02 AM

And there are more thinks on land to be scared if them getting eaten by a shark. I only wish I could be honored with such a cool way to go. Think if the obit page: eaten by a great white while doing what he loved. A glorious death

mrJB 02-14-2012 08:22 AM

Just have to kayak fish San Onofre once and a while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPOBeXD91fI

According to friends who fish and surf San O, GWS are always there and are frequently cruising under their boards or yaks.

For me, San O is a VERY spooky place... all you have to do is go out by the intake pipe to make bait and see the intake-whirlpool out in the middle of nowhere...

If that don't get 'ya, then the shorebreak might...

William Novotny 02-14-2012 08:26 AM

I stand corrected
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mrJB (Post 107248)
Just have to kayak fish San Onofre once and a while...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPOBeXD91fI

According to friends who fish and surf San O, GWS are always there and are frequently cruising under their boards or yaks.

For me, San O is a VERY spooky place... all you have to do is go out by the intake pipe to make bait and see the intake-whirlpool out in the middle of nowhere...

If that don't get 'ya, then the shorebreak might...

Being sucked down a giant toiletbowl is now my worst fear

mrJB 02-14-2012 08:35 AM

LMAO...

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo...

Mister BIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllll....

(gotta' be of a certain age to get that image....)

bus kid 02-14-2012 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrJB (Post 107252)
LMAO...

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo...

Mister BIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLllllllllllllllll llllllllllllllllllllllllllll....

(gotta' be of a certain age to get that image....)

ROFLMAO, and I'm not that old.

rossman 02-14-2012 08:45 AM

I work San O 10 to 20 times a year and I see a white there on more trips than I don't. While I haven't seen the bigger model as reported here, there is an 8 footer that hangs around there, which I have seen breaching in 12 - 15 feet of water. The local surfers even have a name for it. "Sparky" or something like that. My Son has had it do a complete 360 degree drive by at about 8 feet from his yak. The only concern I have is if I catch a keeper Halibut, I get it on shore as soon as possible. Don't want to be on the end of the chum line.

Go here and check out all of the San O sightings
http://sharkresearchcommittee.com/pa...shark_news.htm

William Novotny 02-14-2012 08:45 AM

Mister bill says you should never play with great white sharks, oh noooooooooooooooooooo!

amsurferoceanbeach 02-14-2012 12:00 PM

saw a sea lion yesterday
 
I was at La Jolla cove yesterday and saw this sea lion high & dry.
The diamond shaped punctures wounds where about an inch wide.
My guess is, don't look like him while your in the ocean.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...3/101_0509.JPG

FISHIONADO 02-14-2012 01:55 PM

I always check the surf when I drive I-5 near San Onofre, hard to imagine how you could identify a shark or anything else from that distance. Not saying there are not sharks in the ocean, maybe you had binoculars.

mazilla 02-14-2012 03:25 PM

So I shouldn't paint my yak black... and I shouldn't use the custom seal hide cover I made to protect the bottom from rough launches/landings?

Aaron&Julie 02-14-2012 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107244)
And there are more thinks on land to be scared if them getting eaten by a shark. I only wish I could be honored with such a cool way to go. Think if the obit page: eaten by a great white while doing what he loved. A glorious death

Me thinks you might jump the gun once in a while.
Another responder already pointed out, it is off of South Africa, not South America, which is the most famous place that breaching occurs with Great Whites. And having watched many nature shows, I've seen that it is also occurring off of Australia, with it being noted that it's likely to occur just about anywhere Great Whites occur.
That said, I'd still question a Great White siting from the freeway. An actual viewing of a 100 yards away or less and I'll take anyone's word on it. Afterall, there are plenty of them out there.
I'll pass on being devoured by a Great White. I don't think the survivors of Great White attacks, say, "It was a noble feeling, that shark eating my arm, I just wish he'd finish the job".
I'll take drifting off to death in old age, asleep, with a dream of fishing running through my head.
Aaron

Kahouna 02-14-2012 06:45 PM

Observations a mile north of sighting: I've seen dolphin blow up a bait ball with birds diving all around from one of my work vantage points about a hundred yards east of the 5. I can tell how many people are fishing on boats. I can't tell how many surfers are on the water unless it's a calm day. IF you were looking at the right place at the right time, I would say it's possible.

lowprofile 02-14-2012 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FISHIONADO (Post 107279)
I always check the surf when I drive I-5 near San Onofre, hard to imagine how you could identify a shark or anything else from that distance. Not saying there are not sharks in the ocean, maybe you had binoculars.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kahouna (Post 107309)
Observations a mile north of sighting: I've seen dolphin blow up a bait ball with birds diving all around from one of my work vantage points about a hundred yards east of the 5. I can tell how many people are fishing on boats. I can't tell how many surfers are on the water unless it's a calm day. IF you were looking at the right place at the right time, I would say it's possible.

i can see the surfers and spot kayaks out beyond the discharge while driving. and from the firestone on Basilone i can see the people walking the beach.

Enceladus 02-14-2012 08:24 PM

This will feed the flame a little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbNM...eature=related

William Novotny 02-14-2012 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aaron&Julie (Post 107307)
Me thinks you might jump the gun once in a while.
Another responder already pointed out, it is off of South Africa, not South America, which is the most famous place that breaching occurs with Great Whites. And having watched many nature shows, I've seen that it is also occurring off of Australia, with it being noted that it's likely to occur just about anywhere Great Whites occur.
That said, I'd still question a Great White siting from the freeway. An actual viewing of a 100 yards away or less and I'll take anyone's word on it. Afterall, there are plenty of them out there.
I'll pass on being devoured by a Great White. I don't think the survivors of Great White attacks, say, "It was a noble feeling, that shark eating my arm, I just wish he'd finish the job".
I'll take drifting off to death in old age, asleep, with a dream of fishing running through my head.
Aaron

1: totally aware that it's africa, just a typo on my part. The bad grammar is due to a non cooperating smart phone that feels it needs to correct my every word.
2: my point was NOT that whites dont breach in other parts of the world. I said in my first post that IF it was a white, then you witnessed a rare behavior. And it is. They are NOT just as likely to breach here our we would be witnessing it more often.

William Novotny 02-14-2012 10:09 PM

And 3: as far as the glorious death shpeal. Obviously my sense of humor goes over some peoples heads. I'm not scared to be in the ocean with sharks nor do I intend to purposely put myself in harms way.

T-Rex 02-14-2012 10:23 PM

GWs don't need deep water to breach. Randy Wright's photos of a GW breaching at Will Rogers Beach near PCH & Sunset. I'm guessing maybe ten to fifteen feet deep.

http://images.grindtv.com/images/1/0...29327_m500.jpg http://images.grindtv.com/images/1/0...29328_m500.jpg http://images.grindtv.com/images/1/0...29329_m500.jpg

This guy would have been inside the lineup on a decent swell. :eek:

http://www.wannasurf.com/spot/North_...2635e77283.jpg

Devildawgjj 02-15-2012 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 107313)
i can see the surfers and spot kayaks out beyond the discharge while driving. and from the firestone on Basilone i can see the people walking the beach.


Oh Yeah....Tell me your last 3 scores' on the range, then I'll believe you!!:D



Quote:

Originally Posted by Enceladus (Post 107323)
This will feed the flame a little bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpbNM...eature=related

That's one of the reasons why I don't like to dangle my feet overboard.

Aaron&Julie 02-15-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by William Novotny (Post 107330)
1: totally aware that it's africa, just a typo on my part. The bad grammar is due to a non cooperating smart phone that feels it needs to correct my every word.
2: my point was NOT that whites dont breach in other parts of the world. I said in my first post that IF it was a white, then you witnessed a rare behavior. And it is. They are NOT just as likely to breach here our we would be witnessing it more often.

I wasn't trying to attack you, but if you feel you must defend yourself, well...
1) A typo is usually a mistake in punching out words via a keypad, and usually involve a mis-stroke of one or two characters. A brain fart is...
I understand about auto-correct features, ship happens.
2) I never said it was just as likely to happen here, I said the nature shows I've watched mentioned it is likely to occur just about anywhere Great Whites occur besides South Africa and Australia. Judging by posts on this thread, it happens along our coast much more than I thought.
3) Many of us have unique sense of humors, I didn't get yours this time. As much as many of us like the noble idea of being engaged in our favorite activity at the time of our death, being eaten by a shark, or even drowning, does not sound like a good way to go, IMHO. I'd prefer an Edward G. Robinson, a la Soylent Green, way to go, with a good soundtrack and videos of my finest fishing days flashing before my eyes.
Peace, out.

William Novotny 02-15-2012 03:18 PM

I did not type out south america. My phone has swype. It's a self typing app that predicts what you are typing when you swipe across the keyboard. It predicted south america when I was typing south africa................typo, not in the traditional sense of the word but I guess if we are playing semantics then ill call it a brain fart....for the sake of argument

lowprofile 02-15-2012 06:33 PM

oh boy....

chill out guys. it was just a cool sighting. if ya dont believe it, then dont, if ya do, then great.

:cheers1:

William Novotny 02-15-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile (Post 107427)
oh boy....

chill out guys. it was just a cool sighting. if ya dont believe it, then dont, if ya do, then great.

:cheers1:

Bro, after this long debate I believe that the chances of your sighting being a breaching white are more and more likely.......with that said, no photo, didnt happen:D


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