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Amish Ed 08-28-2015 02:23 PM

Skin cancer
 
This my yearly reminder to wear sunscreen. I'm on my 3rd and 4th basal cell carcinomas. Not very dangerous, but the procedures suck. #3 was just removed from inside my ear. Very painful. I need to take my own advice. Maybe carry it in my yak as I usually don't remember until the sun comes out.

Wear sunscreen folks!

ful-rac 08-28-2015 02:48 PM

I usually cover myself up...minus my legs and my feet...yeah I know how stupid...

I just absolutely hate sunscreen...and on my last offshore excursion, my legs turned black on me...:eek: ! My last couple of trips I have covered my legs and feet with sunscreen...and it sucks but ...Who knows how long I can get away with it without getting stuff cut off of me...?

Amish Ed 08-28-2015 02:54 PM

I too hate sunscreen. Makes me feel sweaty and gross. I wear a big hat, shoes, pants and long sleeve shirt year round. It took a while just getting used to those. How long can you go without cutting things off? I'm 45 and it's getting pretty regular.

Good news is I just got a text from my doctor. The ear one was benign. Not too often when you like the doctor to be wrong.

Cbad Mike 08-28-2015 04:50 PM

Great reminder!
I really need to get into the habit of using sunscreen and covering up better.

If I could add.....
It is extremely important to protect your eyes from sun damage also.

Amish Ed 08-28-2015 04:53 PM

Definitely need good eye wear too. I've used bad glasses in the past. Killed my night vision every time I went out.

JohnMckroidJr 08-28-2015 07:58 PM

Good warning, when we are young, we think we are invincible, and might pay for it years later. I had Clarks level 2 malenoma removed 18 years ago, knock on wood, no irregular moles since then. I always cover up ever since then. I have always hated the feel of sunscreen and prefer high SPF clothes. Furthermore, the incidents of skin cancer have greatly increased since the invention of sunscreen...makes one wonder if it is giving a false sense of protection.

DCS 08-28-2015 09:56 PM

Good message.

I was looking at paddling pants a few days ago. To those who wear paddling pants: Do they breathe good and make you not feel like you're wearing a sauna suit?

Fishin' Magician 08-29-2015 05:40 AM

I lost the top part of my ear due to melanoma. Not sure how or when I got it, but I did and I had to have it removed. The only way they could do it..., remove the whole top of the ear off. I am now totally covered from head to foot when I'm on the water. I even wear fishing gloves. Better safe than sorry.

Amish Ed 08-29-2015 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCS (Post 239810)
Good message.

I was looking at paddling pants a few days ago. To those who wear paddling pants: Do they breathe good and make you not feel like you're wearing a sauna suit?

I work out pants. They are light weight, keep the sun out, and easy to pull down and take a leak. Plus a lot cheaper than paddling pants.

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Originally Posted by Fishin' Magician (Post 239822)
I lost the top part of my ear due to melanoma. Not sure how or when I got it, but I did and I had to have it removed. The only way they could do it..., remove the whole top of the ear off. I am now totally covered from head to foot when I'm on the water. I even wear fishing gloves. Better safe than sorry.

Wow, that's what I feared would happen to me.

MrPatrick 08-29-2015 06:47 AM

I wear pants from Bass Pro. They zip off into shorts for the drive home and BSing at the launch.

Murray 08-29-2015 09:49 AM

I have also been looking for inexpensive clothing protection for arms and legs.

Johnp 08-29-2015 08:23 PM

Pants, buffs, and even socks for me. Remember if your face is not covered you are getting the reflection off the water, even with that wide hat. Any body have info on the best sunblock out there ? Another thing I noticed is even with a,long sleeve shirt on I got a,burn one hot day because it was not spf rated. I think the company rit makes a powder you can mix into your wash, that gives your clothes an spf for many washings?

HobieScot 08-29-2015 09:18 PM

Skin cancer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPatrick (Post 239825)
I wear pants from Bass Pro. They zip off into shorts for the drive home and BSing at the launch.


X2

I have pants that are similar. Same style but these don't absorb water so they stay dry all day. I take a wave over the bow and the water just splashes off the pants.

I do wear a long sleeve SPF shirt that breathes so I stay cool all day.

If it's really hot I wear a t shirt and a pair of spf 50 sleeves that have a thumbhole so they also cover the tops of my hands

The only thing that is exposed are my ankles that I slather with sunblock and my face which never seems to get burnt with the boonie type hat I wear




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HobieScot 08-29-2015 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnp (Post 239941)
Pants, buffs, and even socks for me. Remember if your face is not covered you are getting the reflection off the water, even with that wide hat. Any body have info on the best sunblock out there ? Another thing I noticed is even with a,long sleeve shirt on I got a,burn one hot day because it was not spf rated. I think the company rit makes a powder you can mix into your wash, that gives your clothes an spf for many washings?


This season I've been using a bottle of sunblock that I got at the Fred hall show as a sample from hobie with the hobie brand on it

Not sure of the actual brand but I like it because it's not oily or greasy. It dries quick and doesn't leave that slimy oily feeling that a lot of them do


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svendawg 08-29-2015 09:38 PM

Sun block
 
I find myself avoiding sunblock on my face because i burns my eyes when I sweat. Anybody know of a non-tearing sunblock.

I cover up completely,
Hat, buff, SPF L/S shirt, long quick drying pants, socks and sun gloves.
I've been treated for melanoma and had several pieces of skin cut off including a big chunk off my chest, so I don't take any chances anymore/

Jimmyz123 08-30-2015 06:30 AM

I'm a Cancer survivor
 
Growing up looking like Casper the Friendly Ghost, I required sunscreen, and many times did not use it and went home from fishing looking like Rudolph. So as I grew up and grew somewhat smarter I started using the best sunscreens I could buy that would not come off while surfing, fishing, or anything else I did out in the sun. One problem, there were places that I didn't think to apply it, and I got cancer.

A couple of years ago I had 2 cancerous cysts removed from behind my left ear. Initially I thought it was from not cleaning behind my ears well enough, but after 2 weeks of using Alcohol and washing them really well and the sores not going away, I went to the doctor. A couple days later I want in for surgery. As you can imagine there isn't much skin behind the ears, so the sores went in deep. As you can see from the pictures they had to cut thru my left ear to get part of it out. I'm telling you now throw pride right out the window, and use hats that cover, sunscreen in all places that the sun may hit, and wash your hands after so it doesn't effect the bait you are using to fish with.
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Cancer sucks, do what you can to prevent this type of it.
Not that anyone cares about what I say, but at least try and protect yourselves.

HobieScot 08-30-2015 11:11 AM

Skin cancer
 
Thanks Amish Ed and Jimmyz123 for reminding us all that we need to take care to cover up out there. Especially the areas we don't think about


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King Saba 08-30-2015 12:00 PM

The only proven sunscreens that work are physical block types. And, yes those are the thick white pasty types that leave you looking like a ghost. I use ones that have titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or a combo of both. For it to work you have reapply often, about every 1.5hrs. I've been using Banana boat. Hope this helps.

While we're still on the topic, does anyone have any reccomendations for boots or socks that have a high SPF rating? I'm not blessed with $$$ so something in the $30 range or less would be awesome. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Su...boat+sunscreen

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Na...kids+sunscreen

I've been using both and the yellow bottle one seems to work better. It's much thicker, but it does work. The green bottle one doesn't leave a thick pasty feeling, but I've had a few trips where it didn't work quite as well.

Amish Ed 08-30-2015 06:42 PM

For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.

Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.

Jimmyz123 08-30-2015 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish Ed (Post 240070)
For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.

Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.

We just have to remember not to be lazy when it comes to putting on sunscreen. I know most of those spray on versions are not that the wonderful, but I have one now that actually works really well.

I too have avoided the buffs just because I don't like covering my face unless it's like freezing out. I know some would say I should do so regularly I just don't like to.

YakDout 08-30-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amish Ed (Post 240070)
For those using buffs... How are they when it gets hot out. I could see using one in the winter, but summer time not so much.



Jimmy, glad it wasn't worse. My nose has to be done soon. Hopefully it's an easy small job. My 1st one on my face took 60 stitches.


The buffs I have been using actually cool me down, ALOT. I fish a lot in baja and the right breathable buff makes a world of difference with the heat. Just kind of hard to drink beer.

Johnp 08-30-2015 07:27 PM

Buffs from the buff brand have a cool max feature. They can get a little steamy from your breath though, which can also fog your glasses. An anti fog helps though. I do find myself pulling it down past my mouth at times, but ears are always covered. I also prefer the buuf over the top of my head and the hat over that, which seems wrong, but KS more comfortable for me. Also wear as a head covering under my helmet when mountain biking, absolutely solved the problem of sweat in the eyes and glasses, and is comfortable as well. Just remember to wash them every now and again :D

Amish Ed 08-30-2015 07:46 PM

Which sunscreen jimmy?

PapaDave 09-01-2015 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Saba (Post 239998)
The only proven sunscreens that work are physical block types. And, yes those are the thick white pasty types that leave you looking like a ghost. I use ones that have titanium dioxide, zinc oxide, or a combo of both. For it to work you have reapply often, about every 1.5hrs. I've been using Banana boat. Hope this helps.

While we're still on the topic, does anyone have any reccomendations for boots or socks that have a high SPF rating? I'm not blessed with $$$ so something in the $30 range or less would be awesome. Thanks!

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Su...boat+sunscreen

http://www.amazon.com/Banana-Boat-Na...kids+sunscreen

I've been using both and the yellow bottle one seems to work better. It's much thicker, but it does work. The green bottle one doesn't leave a thick pasty feeling, but I've had a few trips where it didn't work quite as well.

Right brand, but from personal experience the two you show won't last very long on the water. I always look for the ones that don't have the 80 minute limitation...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o05_s00

PescadorPete 09-01-2015 08:04 AM

I've had a few rounds of Mohs surgery, fixing issues that came about because I didn't wear much sunscreen in my youth. The worst one was the top of the ear but luckily plastic surgery restored it.

I use Sol Sunguard BlueWater sunscreen. It is a mechanical block. It is sticky so it doesn't run when you sweat. It's actually hard to shower off at the end of the day. I also carry a tin of Headhunter War Paint and use it throughout the day on my nose, lips and ears.

I always cover up, light weight SPF clothing in the summer and waders/jacket in the winter.

Jimmyz123 09-01-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Amish Ed (Post 240082)
Which sunscreen jimmy?

I'll get the name for you when I get home from work. In my surfing days my go to sunscreen was Aloegator. It was the only one that stayed for while I was in the water and out on my face. I was pretty well covered up on the arms and legs with the wetsuit I had.

Sadly the best sunscreens are the ones that leave you looking casper like, but it's worth it.

bolocop 09-01-2015 01:21 PM

Guys,
Know the difference between sunscreen and sunblock. Yes, there's a difference.

Sunscreen is made up of chemicals that absorb the sun's damaging rays and turn into free radicals. Free radicals are dangerous and require anti-oxidants to neutralize. These free radicals sit in your skin where your sunscreen has absorbed it. The UVA protection is questionable for sunscreens.

Sunblock is clothing or cream made up of titanium dioxide or zinc oxide. These metals prevent the sun from reaching your skin, so does the clothing. The problem is that no one likes the white lifeguard nose and the titanium and zinc are micronized, but then can enter the bloodstream.

I use a face buff, long sleeved shirt and a product call Blue Lizard. It has both titanium and zinc. It goes on thick so I don't want it on my face, but legs is ok, but takes some scrubbing in the shower to get it off.

The choice is yours...

JohnMckroidJr 09-04-2015 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCS (Post 239810)
Good message.

I was looking at paddling pants a few days ago. To those who wear paddling pants: Do they breathe good and make you not feel like you're wearing a sauna suit?

I use mares full length swim pants, they breath and are comfortable.

Ojos_raros 09-04-2015 11:05 AM

Chemical sunscreens don’t sit on the surface of the skin – they soak into it and quickly find their way into the bloodstream. They scatter all over the body without being detoxified by the liver and can be detected in blood, urine, and breast milk for up to two days after a single application. That would be just fine if they were uniformly safe – but they’re not.

large straw hats and long sleeves are the way to go!

carbonbass 09-04-2015 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnp (Post 239941)
Pants, buffs, and even socks for me. Remember if your face is not covered you are getting the reflection off the water, even with that wide hat. Any body have info on the best sunblock out there ? Another thing I noticed is even with a,long sleeve shirt on I got a,burn one hot day because it was not spf rated. I think the company rit makes a powder you can mix into your wash, that gives your clothes an spf for many washings?

get a bottle of "headhunter" from your local surf shop, it is absolutely the best screen there is. Put it on one time, don't need to use a lot (its worth the 10-15$ a tube). I burn easy and this one is my go-to I have worn it on all day offshore trips with 1 application in the morning and found myself finding some behind my ear after 3-4 showers later.

Johnp 09-05-2015 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonbass (Post 240797)
get a bottle of "headhunter" from your local surf shop, it is absolutely the best screen there is. Put it on one time, don't need to use a lot (its worth the 10-15$ a tube). I burn easy and this one is my go-to I have worn it on all day offshore trips with 1 application in the morning and found myself finding some behind my ear after 3-4 showers later.

Thanks, I will check it out.

King Saba 09-05-2015 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaDave (Post 240348)
Right brand, but from personal experience the two you show won't last very long on the water. I always look for the ones that don't have the 80 minute limitation...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...ilpage_o05_s00

I've used that as well. It does apply well and doesn't feel thick and pasty, but it doesn't seem to prevent burns as well for me. It's that or maybe I'm usually just too flushed after a day out.


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