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Unofishgood 09-06-2015 03:35 PM

What's so hard?
 
I don't know how people can struggle launching at county line when it's one of the easiest launches on the coast even when it's over 4 feet. Isn't patience, timing and confidence in your abilities pretty much the virtues of any and every surf launch?

TJones 09-06-2015 03:42 PM

Anyone , anyone ?
 
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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241055)
I don't know how people can struggle launching at county line when it's one of the easiest launches on the coast even when it's over 4 feet. Isn't patience, timing and confidence in your abilities pretty much the virtues of any and every surf launch?

Care to comment on this thread . :confused:.

chris138 09-06-2015 04:45 PM

Its way easier to launch than la jolla, and less sharks. People should head up to county line and forget about dirty old LJ, its all infested w sea lions and stuff. Plus there's seabass up there by malibu... and movie stars.:D

Unofishgood 09-06-2015 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 241071)
Its way easier to launch than la jolla, and less sharks. People should head up to county line and forget about dirty old LJ, its all infested w sea lions and stuff. Plus there's seabass up there by malibu... and movie stars.:D

I find it easy but not some people I see them struggling and breaking their stuff! I always enjoy watching people flip! There's no fish either all the hammerheads take them and bump your kayak it's pretty fun.

katchfish 09-06-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241055)
I don't know how people can struggle launching at county line when it's one of the easiest launches on the coast even when it's over 4 feet. Isn't patience, timing and confidence in your abilities pretty much the virtues of any and every surf launch?

Wow!?

If i trolled like that, I'd use a wire leader.

AND keep my feet out of the water.:D

Cadillyak 09-06-2015 07:59 PM

Yup. Super easy. Can launch a PA 17 no problem. Oh wait, it's not April 1st.... My bad!

2-Stix 09-06-2015 08:04 PM

I was there today at 5:15. Watched Leo for 45 mins. Watched county for 15. Saw 4 guys get destroyed. I saw 1 yak out in the kelp at 6:30 when I left. I guess yakers are a bunch of Nancys these days. The periods were long today, it could have been done, but not my gamble. Born and raised on the water. I was not willing to gamble it. With all the investment in a nice boat and gear...no thanks. No ego I need to prop up. Where did you fish today Unofishgood? "Eddy Would Go"

radastaff 09-06-2015 09:08 PM

musta been unofishgood

bad ass

radastaff 09-06-2015 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241076)
I find it easy but not some people I see them struggling and breaking their stuff! I always enjoy watching people flip! There's no fish either all the hammerheads take them and bump your kayak it's pretty fun.


those people you enjoy watching
may be getting hurt
and or loosing gear

school of hard knocks and all that

not sure I would say enjoy myself
perhaps fascinated and cant look away
but prob not enjoyable

remind me not to fish with you

thanks in advance...


P

Unofishgood 09-06-2015 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by radastaff (Post 241120)
those people you enjoy watching
may be getting hurt
and or loosing gear

school of hard knocks and all that

not sure I would say enjoy myself
perhaps fascinated and cant look away
but prob not enjoyable


P


Yea I help them out if they yard sale but if it's like a really bad day I get worried but sometimes it's like 2-3 feet and super easy to time but some guys manage to go on sets and flip then end up not fishing


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radastaff 09-06-2015 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241121)
Yea I help them out if they yard sale but if it's like a really bad day I get worried but sometimes it's like 2-3 feet and super easy to time but some guys manage to go on sets and flip then end up not fishing


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ok then
your not all bad

maybe I would still fish with ya

*shrugs*

Unofishgood 09-06-2015 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by radastaff (Post 241122)
ok then
your not all bad

maybe I would still fish with ya

*shrugs*


I don't get why people launch with their gear up at county. I've seen so many people break their gear and lose stuff in the passed two weeks it's insane.


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2-Stix 09-06-2015 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241123)
I don't get why people launch with their gear up at county. I've seen so many people break their gear and lose stuff in the passed two weeks it's insane.


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I agree. Full tackle boxes tossed in the shore break. Broken rods. Its pretty bad. Having a surfing, fishing and diving background when I got the yak the first thing I did was have a launch system and fishing system. Its a trip how disconnected people are...but they don't know any better. Today was a perfect example. It was cranking! The guy that wanted to tag a long with me was ready to rock. I pulled the plug...to find out later it was his first day on a yak. It would not have been good.

Unofishgood 09-06-2015 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by 2-Stix (Post 241127)
I agree. Full tackle boxes tossed in the shore break. Broken rods. Its pretty bad. Having a surfing, fishing and diving background when I got the yak the first thing I did was have a launch system and fishing system. Its a trip how disconnected people are...but they don't know any better. Today was a perfect example. It was cranking! The guy that wanted to tag a long with me was ready to rock. I pulled the plug...to find out later it was his first day on a yak. It would not have been good.


Yea lots of guys think it's easy their first time my first time I got destroyed at county not gonna lie but I haven't flipped there in a long time. Every time I see a kayak flip I get worried that I might get hooked while surfing county. It's not hard when you have your stuff inside and that your not worried about flipping.


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momo fish 09-06-2015 10:26 PM

Are we getting cocky now? I'm going to video tape your landings cause I recall one interesting video from this past summer 😉


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radastaff 09-06-2015 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by momo fish (Post 241129)
Are we getting cocky now? I'm going to video tape your landings cause I recall one interesting video from this past summer ��


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to be young
I knew a lot more
then I do now

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish (Post 241129)
Are we getting cocky now? I'm going to video tape your landings cause I recall one interesting video from this past summer 😉


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Haha I didn't flip I fell over reaching for my hat and it was like a two foot day lol!


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TJones 09-07-2015 05:25 AM

Now this
 
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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 241071)
Its way easier to launch than la jolla, and less sharks. People should head up to county line and forget about dirty old LJ, its all infested w sea lions and stuff. Plus there's seabass up there by malibu... and movie stars.:D

Is the kind of reply I was looking for . :kayak-surfer:

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish (Post 241129)
Are we getting cocky now? I'm going to video tape your landings cause I recall one interesting video from this past summer 😉


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hey Mo, it's all timing. I've been launching my revolution lately looking for big fish. So far on my revolution I've done well. My yt count on my hobie isn't zero 😜 lol!


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TJones 09-07-2015 05:28 AM

Keep em coming
 
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Originally Posted by radastaff (Post 241119)
musta been unofishgood

bad ass

:cheers1:

StinkyMatt 09-07-2015 05:57 AM

Someone please vide this guy getting his ass handed to him at County.

Please.

momo fish 09-07-2015 07:57 AM

Oh to be young and cocky... I'll let you use a wider kayak that's harder to launch and see how well you do... As for fishing .. Whatever!! Haha

Are we forgetting this ?

https://www.facebook.com/george.clou...4855863689444/



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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241138)
hey Mo, it's all timing. I've been launching my revolution lately looking for big fish. So far on my revolution I've done well. My yt count on my hobie isn't zero 😜 lol!


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TJones 09-07-2015 08:07 AM

This does not look good !!!
 
"Ohhh Shittttt" were the words coming out of my mouth . That was on a "flat day" . I did not realize it was Ceaser posting this . Lol. Are you crazy Ceaser ? Like Mo said . It's good to be young . :you_rock:. You must have gotten extremely lucky launching the other day . How did you do coming in? Obviously good , or you would not be bragging . :cheers1:. See you on water soon you Young Buck . :D.

TJones 09-07-2015 08:16 AM

Well Mo ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241138)
hey Mo, it's all timing. I've been launching my revolution lately looking for big fish. So far on my revolution I've done well. My yt count on my hobie isn't zero 😜 lol!


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Let me know when you are gonna get the sitter. So we can get out and Fish .:reel:.

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241165)
"Ohhh Shittttt" were the words coming out of my mouth . That was on a "flat day" . I did not realize it was Ceaser posting this . Lol. Are you crazy Ceaser ? Like Mo said . It's good to be young . :you_rock:. You must have gotten extremely lucky launching the other day . How did you do coming in? Obviously good , or you would not be bragging . :cheers1:. See you on water soon you Young Buck . :D.


Haha it's not that I'm cocky I'm just not worried about flipping when it's big because it's not that strong of a wave and I won't get hurt so that's one of the reasons I get out is because I don't trip out about thinking Ima flip


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Unofishgood 09-07-2015 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish (Post 241163)
Oh to be young and cocky... I'll let you use a wider kayak that's harder to launch and see how well you do... As for fishing .. Whatever!! Haha

Are we forgetting this ?

https://www.facebook.com/george.clou...4855863689444/









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The main reason that wave hit me was because the other guy cut me off and then I reached for my hat and fell of my kayak I didn't flip or lose anything. Dont worry Mo, we can go out fishing together and I'll show what what's it's like to have fish on your yak


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TJones 09-07-2015 11:33 AM

That was pretty messed up
 
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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241187)
The main reason that wave hit me was because the other guy cut me off and then I reached for my hat and fell of my kayak I didn't flip or lose anything. Dont worry Mo, we can go out fishing together and I'll show what what's it's like to have fish on your yak


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I'm not sure why that guy cut you off that day .:paddleersmilie: . Congrats on your new ride . Remember when I got caught coming in by a set of 3 footers and survived ? For that reason ,I still think the outback is a more stable ride and all around a better choice .

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241190)
I'm not sure why that guy cut you off that day .:paddleersmilie: . Congrats on your new ride . Remember when I got caught coming in by a set of 3 footers and survived ? For that reason ,I still think the outback is a more stable ride and all around a better choice .


I've launched and landed at county when it was 3-6 feet these passed few days and had no problem coming in but I didn't get hit by any waves I only caught some in but smaller ones


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Unofishgood 09-07-2015 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241190)
I'm not sure why that guy cut you off that day .:paddleersmilie: . Congrats on your new ride . Remember when I got caught coming in by a set of 3 footers and survived ? For that reason ,I still think the outback is a more stable ride and all around a better choice .


Thanks I love the revolution it's so much easier to go farther with it


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TJones 09-07-2015 03:02 PM

Copy that
 
See you next week with that guy who cut you off . :notworthy:. Granted the surf comes down . I burned a couple of wishes surviving a few nasty waves the last time there. Don't want to push my luck . My body might be a little more brittle than yours . Who knows? Maybe we can drag Mo out , and get the flood gates to open for him ? Until then , maybe some stretching to loosen me up .

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241209)
See you next week with that guy who cut you off . :notworthy:. Granted the surf comes down . I burned a couple of wishes surviving a few nasty waves the last time there. Don't want to push my luck . My body might be a little more brittle than yours . Who knows? Maybe we can drag Mo out , and get the flood gates to open for him ? Until then , maybe some stretching to loosen me up .


I hope it's smaller I need to get out and get some rockfish


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JeffB 09-07-2015 04:08 PM

Count me IN!
 
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If county line is easier than this, then count me in! Don't be fooled by the launch, we all got hammered by the sets this day!

Unofishgood 09-07-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffB (Post 241215)
If county line is easier than this, then count me in! Don't be fooled by the launch, we all got hammered by the sets this day!


Lol so true one of my friends the only place I ever saw him flip/fall off his kayak was in like 1 foot surf.


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2-Stix 09-11-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 241141)
Someone please vide this guy getting his ass handed to him at County.

Please.

x2

TJones 09-11-2015 05:40 PM

Ceaser
 
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Originally Posted by Unofishgood (Post 241211)
I hope it's smaller I need to get out and get some rockfish


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Did you get a text from me ? I'm trying to make contact with Kevin . Rain , surf , or wind will not stop us from fishing next week . Don't worry Matt , I will make sure I bring the go pro just in case the kid slips up :eek:.

TJones 09-13-2015 05:59 PM

Well Ceaser ?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 241141)
Someone please vide this guy getting his ass handed to him at County.

Please.

:kayak-surfer::adore::party::reddy:
How did the revo hold up today ? :paddleersmilie:

Cesar teran 09-13-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241819)
:kayak-surfer::adore::party::reddy:
How did the revo hold up today ? :paddleersmilie:

It was super small like 1-2 feet launching. On my way in which I didn't say I don't flip doing haha I flip coming in like every single time I can't get off my revo without flipping. I was going in and I decided to try and back paddle a wave and it went under me then I flipped haha but coming in I don't care if I flip when it's 1-2 feet it's only when I launch that I usually don't flip lol but I have had some close calls lately lol!

Unofishgood 09-13-2015 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 241141)
Someone please vide this guy getting his ass handed to him at County.

Please.

X3 especially when it's big! I would love to get a video of me flipping while launching at big county that would be funny. You can see me flip and fall off my kayak when I land but I'm out of energy and I don't care at that point haha!

Unofishgood 09-13-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 241724)
Did you get a text from me ? I'm trying to make contact with Kevin . Rain , surf , or wind will not stop us from fishing next week . Don't worry Matt , I will make sure I bring the go pro just in case the kid slips up :eek:.

No I didn't get it just pm me. We will go out.

Mr. NiceGuy 09-13-2015 11:24 PM

If we are not used to it, it takes surprisingly little to roll a fishing kayak full of gear.

I think the most valuable practice I've had is going out to knock around in bigger surf in an empty kayak and forcing myself into waves that will roll me.

A good place to practice is at the mouth of San Diego River by Dog Beach. The waves are generally bigger than La Jolla and there is more variety of shape and direction as the tide changes. The wave size is still reasonable for newbie practice.

Paddle out to the middle of the breakers and practice holding a position there in both directions through several sets --- facing the ocean and facing the shore. Then practice waiting parallel and leaning into the waves as they smash into you. Leaning into the wave when you are parallel will release a lot of pressure from water mass that could otherwise roll you.

Letting my kayak catch a wave is fun, but the speed picks up and the chance of losing control increases. At the end of the run when the water starts to dissipate, my kayak seems to automatically rotate sideways into a more vulnerable position. It's better to dig in a paddle and try to break the wave-riding before it develops.

After I started to get a feel for the physics of what's happening, it became a more manageable situation.

I should be doing this with an empty kayak more often, and pushing myself through progressively larger wave sets in different conditions throughout the year.

If I have to jump or fall out, I try to avoid getting between my kayak and shore so my kayak doesn't smash into me with the next wave. If I'm trying to hang onto my kayak from the water I reach for the rope in the stern, not the bow.

I bundle all my rods, gaff and other loose things into one horizontal package on one side so it's easier to jump out the opposite side if necessary. Any fish or other loose supplies are stowed in a closed hatch for the landing.


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