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rogersmith 02-18-2011 12:25 PM

Kayakers rescued Friday 2/18
 
At least they dont sound like fisherman...:rolleyes:

Kayakers rescued off La Jolla Shores

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By Jen Lebron Kuhney<SCRIPT os_excluded="true"> pv["p.a_3"] = "";</SCRIPT> Friday, February 18, 2011 at 12:04 p.m.
LA JOLLA — Three kayakers were rescued Friday morning after high winds and rough ocean conditions pushed them a couple of miles off La Jolla Shores, said San Diego lifeguards.
A man and a woman, both 25, and a man who worked for a kayak rental company called for help about 11 a.m., said lifeguard Lt. John Everhart.
Lifeguards sent two small watercraft to bring the kayakers back to shore safely by 11:40 a.m.
A gale-force warning was issued by the National Weather Service beginning at 1 p.m. on Friday and will be in effect until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Everhart said it is not advisable to take small crafts out on the water until the advisory is lifted.

onetriphudson 02-18-2011 12:39 PM

Is there any attempted strategy for what to do besides paddle your ass off or just hold on tight?!?

Not that many guys carry anchors, but would something like that help?

What about jumping in the water to swim and just tow your kayak? Provided that you are in good shape and have a wetsuit on.

YakMedic 02-18-2011 12:50 PM

Never forget we are at the mercy of the ocean. And those small craft advisory's are no joke.

Jim Sammons LJKF 02-18-2011 01:09 PM

NEVER LEAVE YOUR KAYAK. I guarantee you will wear yourself out in minutes trying to tow it and you are much safer on it getting blown out to see than you are jumping in the water when it is in the 50's.
Then again use some common sense and choose your days wisely and don't over estimate your abilities.

Jimmyz123 02-18-2011 01:13 PM

I second what Jim said. Jumping in the water in, though it's not freezing out, will still cause major problems.

I had the day off from work due to Pinkeye and thought about going out, that thought lasted about 2 minutes and then I remembered what the weather was suppose to be like.

BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.

onetriphudson 02-18-2011 01:19 PM

Swimming is not a good option, check! Thanks Jim!

This guy had no choice...

http://english.ntdtv.com/ntdtv_en/ns...072314641.html

Damn those aussies are tough!

wiredantz 02-18-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by rogersmith (Post 76289)
At least they dont sound like fisherman...:rolleyes:

Kayakers rescued off La Jolla Shores

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By Jen Lebron Kuhney<SCRIPT os_excluded="true"> pv["p.a_3"] = "";</SCRIPT> Friday, February 18, 2011 at 12:04 p.m.
LA JOLLA — Three kayakers were rescued Friday morning after high winds and rough ocean conditions pushed them a couple of miles off La Jolla Shores, said San Diego lifeguards.
A man and a woman, both 25, and a man who worked for a kayak rental company called for help about 11 a.m., said lifeguard Lt. John Everhart.
Lifeguards sent two small watercraft to bring the kayakers back to shore safely by 11:40 a.m.
A gale-force warning was issued by the National Weather Service beginning at 1 p.m. on Friday and will be in effect until 7 a.m. Saturday.
Everhart said it is not advisable to take small crafts out on the water until the advisory is lifted.

I check the report 1 hour before i leave home, if it looks good ill go out. If there is any concern about safety i choose to stay home.

Iceman 02-18-2011 01:49 PM

really...........rescued in 12 kt winds?!?!

http://w9if.net/cgi-bin/torreywx/wx_...at&plot_type=1

dorado50 02-18-2011 02:13 PM

BE SMART people never paddle out if you don't feel that it's safe to do so.[/QUOTE]


Dude, thats the problem!!! most kayak people don't know what is safe and what is'nt...da:banghead: Lets keep it real here.

YakMedic 02-18-2011 02:14 PM

12 knots and 15 gusts isn't very significant. At least usually doesn't req a rescue.

dorado50 02-18-2011 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 76314)
12 knots and 15 gusts isn't very significant. At least usually doesn't req a rescue.


My point exactly.... that didn't take long:doh:

m1k3midg3 02-18-2011 02:23 PM

there was one time where i didnt feel like it was safe to paddle out but did so anyways and it nearly got me killed but i do have to admit it was funner than hell and i would totally do it again. 15 foot waves are AWESOME to try to kayak surf. i had an anchor with me and i wiped out and the anchor line got wrapped round me but i was able to do untangle myself underwater.

mtnbykr2 02-18-2011 02:24 PM

I guess it depends on wether you are paddling or pedaling, but I have been caught in naaaasty off shores, scarrey but doable, and it will wear you down...again be aware of the weather...

YakMedic 02-18-2011 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dorado50 (Post 76316)
My point exactly.... that didn't take long:doh:

Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

bigbarrels 02-18-2011 03:24 PM

you would think those kayak rental companies would keep a good eye on the current and predicted conditions before taking their clueless customers out:alberteinstein: wonder if they charged extra for the extended tour of La Jolla?

bus kid 02-18-2011 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 76329)
Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

tourist, probably never paddled or peddled a yak. The rental company should have know better. :doh:

the real question is how did they get in contact with the lifeguards, from a post I read, it sounded like that is almost impossible.

hay yakmedic, is it just me or is your kayak sitting low in the water in your avatar, passing wave?

YakMedic 02-18-2011 04:02 PM

hay yakmedic, is it just me or is your kayak sitting low in the water in your avatar, passing wave?[/QUOTE]

Both,
I'm not a little guy, I have a xfactor now also so it rides higher.

Aaron&Julie 02-18-2011 04:05 PM

I tend to agree, that those people were out of their element.
We've had to go 3 miles from the south LJ kelp with a strong downhill current against us, and 15mph+ North winds in our face, to get back to the launch. It probably took us over 2 hours to do it and it was the hardest we ever had to work, but it beats ending up in TJ.
Add-on: we paddled our Fish n Dives using the original paddles that came with our Cobra package. Too short, bad design, and heavier than the Werner 2-piece ones we bought last year.
On the plus note, Julie caught her 1st WSB (30+) in the south kelp area, and I managed to end the long day/paddle with a yellow (30+), once we passed the Condo. Just rewards, but made one helluva workout worthwhile:)

GregAndrew 02-18-2011 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onetriphudson (Post 76291)
Is there any attempted strategy for what to do besides paddle your ass off or just hold on tight?!?

Not that many guys carry anchors, but would something like that help?

What about jumping in the water to swim and just tow your kayak? Provided that you are in good shape and have a wetsuit on.

An anchor would probably cause more problems than it would be worth. A drift chute on an anchor trolley could help if you had given up on trying to reach shore for a time. The Drift Chute would slow you down, and by positioning it, on the anchor trolley, at the bow or stern you would become less of a sail. There is lots of Bull Kelp, that stretches out a long way from shore, on the South side of LJ that you could possibly tie up to also.

WahooUSMA 02-18-2011 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 76329)
Really...
My point is that 12 knot winds should not require a rescue. Should you go out in those winds? No, however if you were on the water and the winds came up. Would you require a rescue to get back to shore?

See graph above from Ice!


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