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Tman 06-06-2018 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by skrilla (Post 293965)
1. 365

2. A license card you can swipe instead of a 10ft long piece of receipt paper.

3. Or adopt Hawaii's regs... no license required for recreational saltwater fishing. :D

Ya, but if you catch an ono, ahi, or a marlin from a boat, it's theirs...

Marlins are sold to the smokers

grey zone 06-06-2018 09:06 PM

I think a 365 day license from date of purchase is long over due, can't tell you how many people I have told that it is not worth buying an annual license when it will only be good for a couple of months. Make non-resident fees substantial, I pay $105 for a two week non-resident AK license. Reinstate the saltwater only license for a reduced fee. Lastly, what did the DFG&W think was going to happen with the creation of MLPA's that have so improved our fishing!

Fiskadoro 06-06-2018 09:46 PM

I would not change much but....

On the lobster report card they should allow a longer window for reporting.

I.E. Not issue new cards until September, and you have through August to report your previous season catch. Several times it's slipped my mind and I missed the report deadline.

Another issue is New Years. I like the yearly license, I would like to see a 24 hr grace period. I once got checked after lobster fishing on NYE, and almost got a ticket for not carrying the new license on Jan 1. :cheers1:

Fiskadoro 06-06-2018 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by skrilla (Post 293965)
A license card you can swipe instead of a 10ft long piece of receipt paper.. :D


Don't get me started. I loved the old paper, hate the new paper which can degrade.:(

Tigermidge 06-06-2018 10:14 PM

What really gets me is the regulation with unclear areas. and its up to you to figure it out.
Example: Lake Crowley Monument, where is it, what is it, (i know but most people don't) a map of closed areas or a special Regulation, easy to read. For the WHOLE state!!!!!!!

tak100 06-06-2018 11:19 PM

2 Cents
 
I would introduce max size limits to keep those big breeders out there making more babies. Say 13-18-inch bass ok to keep, anything bigger or smaller goes back to breed (or whatever some scientist suggests).
I think this would really help the WSB and Halibut populations. Probably better than expensive hatcheries (which I am also happy to pay for).

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0102112241.htm

18 age limit is a great idea, become an adult and start paying. Help families fish together.

Pound for pound recreational fisherman spend way more dollars than commercial fisherman. Better fishing equals more participation equals more revenue for the DFG and the economy as a whole. Focus should be on protecting and enhancing recreational fishing.

And to reinforce my first point and some of the other suggestions, let the science dictate the fishing rules.



There is a way to get a discount on current fishing licenses, buy a lifetime license. You will at least not have to worry about future price increases.

Mr. NiceGuy 06-07-2018 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 293938)
I once read that there was some study that found California fishing licenses cost 75% more compared to all other states, yet we have some of the highest barriers to fishing (i.e. MLPA's and other closed areas) put in place.

If the state was serious about it they would reduce cost, make it 12 months from purchase and take the politics out of fisheries management and leave it to actual real science, not appointed hacks with agendas.

Unfortunately I don't see the socialist government in this state doing any of that...


You nailed it. With more voices like yours, I feel hope for the future.

Mr. NiceGuy 06-07-2018 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by PAL (Post 293944)
In my posts over on Facebook, the idea of a 365-day license is overwhelmingly supported. Some background, there are two bills being considered in the legislature. One, IIRC, adds a 20% fee to the current license price for the privilege. The other, SB518, sets the 365-day license at the same price, but requires optional auto renewal. If you don't choose to auto renew, there's an extra 30% fee.

Which of these, if any, do you support?


They will not vote to cut their source of funds. Bureaucracy does not work like that. They will use every scheme and tax and hidden squeeze of money they can think of to expand, hire more people, do more studies, expand their jurisdiction, have more meetings, drive around, buy more expensive trucks, boats and equipment at exorbitant prices, etc., until they ultimately collapse under their own bloated dead weight. That's the reality of what's happening to us.

Both schemes you mentioned are attempts to increase revenue, no matter how it's spun. We can't be naive about this. They never cut costs. To the people who run our government and rule over us, bloated waste and rampant inefficiency is a luxury of what they do, at the expense of us peasants who are forced to support them.

battleborn 06-07-2018 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy (Post 293983)
They will not vote to cut their source of funds. Bureaucracy does not work like that. They will use every scheme and tax and hidden squeeze of money they can think of to expand, hire more people, do more studies, expand their jurisdiction, buy more expensive trucks, boats and equipment at exorbitant prices, etc., until they ultimately collapse under their own bloated dead weight. That's the reality of what's happening to us.

Both schemes you mentioned are attempts to increase revenue, no matter how it's spun. We can't be naive about this. They never cut costs. To the people who run our government and rule over us, bloated waste and rampant inefficiency is a luxury of what they do, at the expense of us peasants who support them.

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Mr. NiceGuy 06-07-2018 09:30 AM

Buying a one year license that is good for 6 months doubles our cost. Neat trick, eh Watt? The people who write deceptive laws like this think they are being clever, then it's rammed down our throats whether we agree or not.

To give us a so-called "privilege" for 20% or 30% more for relief from this scam is just as deceptive and disingenuous.

seck66 06-07-2018 10:50 AM

1. Perhaps a graduated price for lifetime fishing licenses based on the age of the licensee.
2. The plastic (non-paper) licenses are good, perhaps a step further would be something more convenient that can attach to a (rod, PFD, tackle box) so you're more likely to take it with you when you fish on a new platform. For example, moving from my kayak to a boat, if the license attached to a rod or my tackle box, I'd be less likely to forget it...
3. +1 for 365 day license from date of purchase. If Mexico can figure this out, so can we.
4. +1 for digital copy. Forgeries can be prevented if there’s an app on your phone that can digitally sign the license.

FISH11 06-08-2018 08:23 AM

I support a license that is good for 365 days from when it is purchased, but no increase in pricing. Change the age to 18 and allow the use of a digital copy also. Increase the fines and jail time on poachers to generate more revenue instead charging more to law abiding fisherman.

jorluivil 06-08-2018 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 293935)
Would be nice to be able to keep a valid digital copy on your phone.


What he said


if you can show a digital copy of an insurance card why can't you do the same for your fishing license?


I would also love to see a digital lobster report card and the ability to make purchases for licenses via an app. If you can pay for porn on a smartphone why can't you do the same for a fishing license?

NICKWORN 06-08-2018 11:27 AM

DAMN
 
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Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 294020)
What he said


if you can show a digital copy of an insurance card why can't you do the same for your fishing license?


I would also love to see a digital lobster report card and the ability to make purchases for licenses via an app. If you can pay for porn on a smartphone why can't you do the same for a fishing license?

Like the lobster card idea! Those things are a pain to keep folding up all year long!!:lobster:

P.S. Can the season come any slower HAHAHHAHa

PapaDave 06-08-2018 12:10 PM

Two things...

1. Good for 365 days.
2. Renewable cards, like a credit card, that can be updated.

Well, maybe three...

3. graduated fees for lifetime license based on age.

cabojohn 06-08-2018 01:12 PM

There should be a basic fish test before anyone gets a license to kill.
Identify species, laws, bounderies etc. Know before you go?
Kalifornia needs to set the bar hi by raising the cost of a license! $250-$1000.
Kalifornia anglers have the money...how about a kayak angler tax too?
Gotta pay to play.:shot:

:D

jk-
IF i were to get another CA license I would like to see paper and digital accepted:cheers1:


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