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makobob 07-31-2017 06:50 PM

Thanksgiving with Rossman AGAIN
 
We leave on the 20th of November to spend Thanksgiving in beautiful Asuncion. Fishing for yellows, world class calicos, bonita and corvina. We return 1 December, plan on camping at Rossman's place, and maybe taking a side trip to Punta Eugenia and or Punta Quebrada to fish and beach camp.

Anglers are:
Makobob
Deamon
Buddha
John friend of Buddha
Sivak
CON KSO
petethefishboy
MITCHELL


This is an open trip, anyone wanting to join us is welcome. You can caravan with us or meet us along the way, leave when you want. Tight Lines amigos.

Sivak 07-31-2017 07:06 PM

I might just have to join you on this trip too.

makobob 07-31-2017 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sivak (Post 283654)
I might just have to join you on this trip too.

Dave I put you on the list, welcome aboard.

CON KSO 07-31-2017 10:35 PM

I'd like to come along!

I'll be leaving San Diego on Sat. 18th and plan on taking two days to get to B.Asuncion.

I'll have my truck with Callen Camper and will trailer my PA14.

I like to cross at Tecate and drive down to San Felipe through La Rumorosa. Will either camp outside of San Felipe at one of the many spots there or push it on to camp off the road to Calmajue wash.

Most likely will have my dirtbike on the bumper for beer runs or beach/shore fishing.

Excited for this one!

rossman 08-01-2017 01:21 AM

This is starting to look like a great group of pescadores. Really looking forward to some visitors. Couple tanks of fuel and you are here and there's plenty of room so come on down.

For those of you that don't follow me on FB, I bought a little tin boat a few months ago to extend my range. I still kayak a bit but lately I have been exploring the offshore scene and last week I had some good success on tuna and dorado. Today I am going out to begin my hunt for a wahoo. The locals do not remember ever seeing tuna in July so this may be shaping up to be a good season for the exotics

makobob 08-01-2017 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CON KSO (Post 283668)
I'd like to come along!

I'll be leaving San Diego on Sat. 18th and plan on taking two days to get to B.Asuncion.

I'll have my truck with Callen Camper and will trailer my PA14.

I like to cross at Tecate and drive down to San Felipe through La Rumorosa. Will either camp outside of San Felipe at one of the many spots there or push it on to camp off the road to Calmajue wash.

Most likely will have my dirtbike on the bumper for beer runs or beach/shore fishing.

Excited for this one!


Welcome aboard, finally get to fish with you. This has been a great trip every year we do it, Lots of fun, fish, food. Tight Lines amigos.

CON KSO 08-01-2017 09:34 PM

Yes!

Super excited for this trip - try not to laugh but I've never caught a yellowtail. Hoping this will be the trip to take care of that.

If anybody has a list of must-have jigs or any other gear that I should have please post it so that I can get stocked up.

Quick question - do you guys try to bring fillets home? If so do you freeze it there or is there an ice factory to load up the coolers in town?

Also, hope you don't mind, but it's looking like I'm going to have a fishing buddy come along with me.

He's actually one of my past students (I'm a high school chem teacher) and the dude most responsible for getting me crazy about kayak fishing.

I think he's on this site as petethefishboy - he'll probably chime in but he's a fish crazy hombre and we began laying down plans tonight for the trip.

Thanks for setting all this up can't wait to meet you all!

makobob 08-02-2017 04:22 AM

CON KSO your friend Pete has been added to the MASTER list. Welcome aboard. BUT be prepaired to bring crockadiles, salas 6xjr in blue and white and scramble egg single hook if you can find them. Plastics for the big calicos too.
BTW you and Pete will need to plan, and prepair a dinner one night for the whole crew. Tight Lines amigos.

rossman 08-02-2017 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by CON KSO (Post 283710)
Yes!

Super excited for this trip - try not to laugh but I've never caught a yellowtail. Hoping this will be the trip to take care of that.

If anybody has a list of must-have jigs or any other gear that I should have please post it so that I can get stocked up.

Quick question - do you guys try to bring fillets home? If so do you freeze it there or is there an ice factory to load up the coolers in town?

Also, hope you don't mind, but it's looking like I'm going to have a fishing buddy come along with me.

He's actually one of my past students (I'm a high school chem teacher) and the dude most responsible for getting me crazy about kayak fishing.

I think he's on this site as petethefishboy - he'll probably chime in but he's a fish crazy hombre and we began laying down plans tonight for the trip.

Thanks for setting all this up can't wait to meet you all!

I'll chime in with tackle recommendations for down here. For heavy jigs I mainly fish the Salas 6x Jr. The only color the locals use are the blue and white. I also use them but have had some good success on the green and yellow, and the scrambled egg pattern. I also use Megabaits a lot. Actually they are megabait look alikes. I find the original Megabaits have very poor trebles and split rings so I get knock offs here: http://stores.ebay.com/alltackledepo...p2047675.l2563. You can get 16 for like 30 bucks and they have much better trebles and split rings. 3.5 oz is what I use. You will get yellowtail action on these and a lot of bycatch like calicos, sheepshead, sand bass and whitefish. Shiny Krocodiles type spoons can be used off the beach or pretty much everywhere. I get mine at the same site listed above. Your favorite plastics will work fine down here but you will go through a lot of them because the calico are everywhere and voracious. For trolling, I use the X Rap magnum 30 however I find they can't be used effectively on a kayak as you really need depth and speed to trigger a bite. That is pretty much it for my tackle box. If it is shiny and/or wiggles, it will probably get bit. I do not use live bait mainly because there has not been much around. However right now the whole area is choked with sardine and mackerel so who knows what November will be like.

BTW Absolutely zero problem on my end with you bringing someone else along. Plenty of room to set up at my place. It will be sort of like camping in your back yard. Camping but still have the use of the indoor facilities.

makobob 08-02-2017 05:32 AM

We usually only keep fish to eat down here but ice is available here and if your fish are caught in the last couple of days ice works. Ross might let you freeze your fish at his place. Pm him and ask. Also ask him if there is anything you can bring down for him. Tight Lines amigos.

CON KSO 08-02-2017 05:36 AM

Sounds great - thanks for all the tips - I will commence shopping! Pete works at Squidco so I'm sure he'll know what's available.

I've got conventional gear but I'm planning on fly fishing as well - anybody else gonna chuck feathers? If you've got any data on patterns that work - I'm all ears.

Put us down for cheeseburgers for our dinner night.

Thanks Rossman for the invite and use of facilities. With the exception of bathroom/toilet facilities my truck is Baja-camping ready.

If anything else comes to mind- we're listening!

Deamon 08-02-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CON KSO (Post 283720)

Pete works at Squidco so I'm sure he'll know what's available.

GAME CHANGER RIGHT THERE!!! Pete and I need to talk...I need stuff now and prior to our trip...:cheers1:

makobob 08-02-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Deamon (Post 283722)
GAME CHANGER RIGHT THERE!!! Pete and I need to talk...I need stuff now and prior to our trip...:cheers1:

ME TOO!!!

SDROB 08-02-2017 10:33 AM

Bunch of lucky guys! This is a bucket list trip for me... I got to get down there.

romspacenut 08-02-2017 11:13 AM

Gonna try and make it this year. Anyone only going for a week?

Sivak 08-02-2017 02:15 PM

I'll be throwing the fly. I primarily use something like a size 1/0 yak hair fly or clouser. Blue/White, Green/White or Black/White. I'll take an 8WT and a 10WT. Tippet no lighter than 20lb. I typically use 25lb. They are not line shy and there are lots of toothy critters.

domtesta27 08-02-2017 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sivak (Post 283740)
I'll be throwing the fly. I primarily use something like a size 1/0 yak hair fly or clouser. Blue/White, Green/White or Black/White. I'll take an 8WT and a 10WT. Tippet no lighter than 20lb. I typically use 25lb. They are not line shy and there are lots of toothy critters.

Exactly what Sivak said, Clousers, clousers, and more clousers. I remember being in Gonzaga last October and I had 3 full boxes of flies tied for the trip and I never used anything but Chartreuse/white and white/white clousers the entire trip. Deceivers also work really well especially if you end up flyfishing from the Yak....

Make sure you tie a bunch of different sizes, I have some as small as 1 inch and as large as 4.5 inches.

heres my Gonzaga Bay yellowtail, first on the fly and first from the yak on a 1.5 inch chartreuse/white clouser.

Attachment 22052

makobob 08-02-2017 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SDROB (Post 283735)
Bunch of lucky guys! This is a bucket list trip for me... I got to get down there.

You my friend told me the same thing last year and the year before that. enough said, Tight Lines amigo.

rossman 08-02-2017 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SDROB (Post 283735)
Bunch of lucky guys! This is a bucket list trip for me... I got to get down there.

One more tank of fuel from where you normally go can hardly be considered a Bucket List trip. Mueve tu culo aquÃX abajo

CON KSO 08-02-2017 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sivak (Post 283740)
I'll be throwing the fly. I primarily use something like a size 1/0 yak hair fly or clouser. Blue/White, Green/White or Black/White. I'll take an 8WT and a 10WT. Tippet no lighter than 20lb. I typically use 25lb. They are not line shy and there are lots of toothy critters.

Great info - thanks!

In general, are you tying longer clousers for down there - say 4 - 5" long?

Also- I'm assuming full sinking line?

My heavier 8 and 10wts are parked outside of La Paz but I do have an Orvis Frequent Flyer 8wt that I'll bring and a TFO Mangrove 6wt.

CON KSO 08-02-2017 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by domtesta27 (Post 283743)
Exactly what Sivak said, Clousers, clousers, and more clousers. I remember being in Gonzaga last October and I had 3 full boxes of flies tied for the trip and I never used anything but Chartreuse/white and white/white clousers the entire trip. Deceivers also work really well especially if you end up flyfishing from the Yak....

Make sure you tie a bunch of different sizes, I have some as small as 1 inch and as large as 4.5 inches.

heres my Gonzaga Bay yellowtail, first on the fly and first from the yak on a 1.5 inch chartreuse/white clouser.

Attachment 22052

Yes! That's killer - I'd be stoked to catch little yellowtail like that all day long. I'll tie up a bunch of clousers in the lengths and colors you mentioned. My SD Bay flyfishing instincts say to tie up some orange and brown ones as well. But I know the colors you mentioned are solid for Baja, in June I fished islands off of La Paz and, you're right, the best flies were chartreuse and white.

makobob 08-02-2017 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CON KSO (Post 283756)
Great info - thanks!

In general, are you tying longer clousers for down there - say 4 - 5" long?

Also- I'm assuming full sinking line?

My heavier 8 and 10wts are parked outside of La Paz but I do have an Orvis Frequent Flyer 8wt that I'll bring and a TFO Mangrove 6wt.

You might try the larger flies but there is usually MICRO bait that they are feeding on, so bring both. I would concentrate in more of the 1-2.5 inch then 2-4 or 5. Full sink or heavy shooting line, I use a shooting head, but a lot of the better fly fishermen use a floating line. If the roosters show again this year an 8 wt might not do the job, I think a couple were DEMOLISHED last year. We got 35 roosters from 35-60+ pounds last summer. And another 35 from 1-20# from the beach. The big boys were ALL caught at the island. Tight Lines amigo.

domtesta27 08-03-2017 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 283760)
You might try the larger flies but there is usually MICRO bait that they are feeding on, so bring both. I would concentrate in more of the 1-2.5 inch then 2-4 or 5. Full sink or heavy shooting line, I use a shooting head, but a lot of the better fly fishermen use a floating line. If the roosters show again this year an 8 wt might not do the job, I think a couple were DEMOLISHED last year. We got 35 roosters from 35-60+ pounds last summer. And another 35 from 1-20# from the beach. The big boys were ALL caught at the island. Tight Lines amigo.

You wouldn't be talking about me would you Bob??!?! LOL:D The pieces of what once were a 10wt rod would have to agree with you. Those big Gallos are no joke.

I'm about to order a 12-14 wt Reddington Predator for this years trip, they have a crazy amount of backbone for a fly rod

makobob 08-03-2017 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by domtesta27 (Post 283767)
You wouldn't be talking about me would you Bob??!?! LOL:D The pieces of what once were a 10wt rod would have to agree with you. Those big Gallos are no joke.

I'm about to order a 12-14 wt Reddington Predator for this years trip, they have a crazy amount of backbone for a fly rod

Would I dog on you like that? Hell yes. Tight Lines, you going to being your fly tying stuff this year?

domtesta27 08-03-2017 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 283771)
Would I dog on you like that? Hell yes. Tight Lines, you going to being your fly tying stuff this year?

I definitely can bring down all the fly tying stuff, last year I only tied one fly while I was down there, we were having too much fun eating, drinking, and enjoying everyone's company to do any actual tying.

Ill probably bring down a little emergency kit in case I run low on something.

Hows the hospital stay going Bob? You're almost out right?

makobob 08-03-2017 09:17 AM

Ok so I just bought a TFO BVK 10 wt fly rod and a Hatch Finatic 9+ hopefully this will work ok, will try our on the October trips but really wanted it for Asuncion Calicos.

Asuncion trip might be epic this year, tuna, wahoo, Yellows, bonito and Calicos hope everyone is ready or getting their gear in order. Full thanksgiving dinner at Rossman's place, cooked by our chef Jeff. Turkey with all the trimmings. But this is a fishing trip so if the yellows are cooperating we will fish Asuncion HARD. If slow we could take a side trip to Punta Quebrada, Punta Eugenia or Laguna Coyote or????? AND I expect to do some fossil hunting, need more shark teeth and petrefied sand dollars. Tight Lines amigos.

makobob 08-03-2017 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by domtesta27 (Post 283775)
I definitely can bring down all the fly tying stuff, last year I only tied one fly while I was down there, we were having too much fun eating, drinking, and enjoying everyone's company to do any actual tying.

Ill probably bring down a little emergency kit in case I run low on something.

Hows the hospital stay going Bob? You're almost out right?

Not until the 11th, about one moore week. Then 14th off to paradise.

domtesta27 08-03-2017 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 283778)
Ok so I just bought a TFO BVK 10 wt fly rod and a Hatch Finatic 9+ hopefully this will work ok, will try our on the October trips but really wanted it for Asuncion Calicos.

Asuncion trip might be epic this year, tuna, wahoo, Yellows, bonito and Calicos hope everyons is ready or getting their gear in order. Full thanksgiving dinner at Rossman's place, cooked by our chef Jeff. Turkey with all the trimmings. But this is a fishing trip so if the yellows are cooperating we will fish Asuncion HARD. If slow we could take a side trip to Punta Quebrada, Punta Eugenia or Laguna Coyote or????? AND I expect to do some fossil hunting, need more shark teeth and petrefied sand dollars. Tight Lines amigos.

Bob PM me your address I want to send you a little Calico fly care package :cheers1:

CON KSO 08-03-2017 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by domtesta27 (Post 283785)
Bob PM me your address I want to send you a little Calico fly care package :cheers1:

I was just trying to look up calico patterns for flies I wanted to start tying for Asuncion trip - would it be possible to post up a couple pics of your calico flies? Or if you've got a link to point me to for calico fly recipes/tying videos that would be awesome.

I have the BVK 8wt and a TFO Clouser 10wt but they are both at my friends place down in La Ventana (outside of La Paz) I'm heading down there in either Sept. or November (before our trip) so I leave them with my buddy since you can't carry them onto the plane anymore.

I love the 8wt BVK - the 10wt with my Reddington Behemoth reel on it get's tiring - specially since I'm throwing full sinking 450grain Jim Teeny lines with are beastly.

BTW that Hatch is a beautiful reel! I have Lamson Liquid reels on all my rods except for the 10wt - they're relatively cheap and the set-up I bought comes with two extra spools! I mis-treat them and they keep working.

I'm going to bring the 8 and 6 wt for the Calicos at Asuncion - if they die there, so be it.

Can't wait for that trip!

Baja_Traveler 08-04-2017 06:05 AM

My favorite fly for just about everything bigger than a bonefish is the Game Changer articulated sardine. My first trip out with one of these I was hammering the calicos out at Zuniga jetty nearly every cast. In fact, that same fly is still on my 10 Wt over a year later - it holds up very well. Pretty easy to tie once you have the spine pieces to tie with. I found that if you tie a line to the hook eye and the other end to an overhead nail - if you pull straight down on the tail of the fly it is much easier to shape into a fish form using small scissors.
Here is a video on tying it: https://youtu.be/C4hsAERPZ4s

http://m0.i.pbase.com/g9/85/360685/2...0.Cs3twVU1.jpg

domtesta27 08-04-2017 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CON KSO (Post 283807)
I was just trying to look up calico patterns for flies I wanted to start tying for Asuncion trip - would it be possible to post up a couple pics of your calico flies? Or if you've got a link to point me to for calico fly recipes/tying videos that would be awesome.

I have the BVK 8wt and a TFO Clouser 10wt but they are both at my friends place down in La Ventana (outside of La Paz) I'm heading down there in either Sept. or November (before our trip) so I leave them with my buddy since you can't carry them onto the plane anymore.

I love the 8wt BVK - the 10wt with my Reddington Behemoth reel on it get's tiring - specially since I'm throwing full sinking 450grain Jim Teeny lines with are beastly.

BTW that Hatch is a beautiful reel! I have Lamson Liquid reels on all my rods except for the 10wt - they're relatively cheap and the set-up I bought comes with two extra spools! I mis-treat them and they keep working.

I'm going to bring the 8 and 6 wt for the Calicos at Asuncion - if they die there, so be it.

Can't wait for that trip!

I'll post up some of the flies that im gonna send to bob in a few days, but there are a few good resources on the web to look at besides BWE for calico fly patterns.

Dig around at fliflicker.com that's the socal flyfishing forum.

Also google Vaughn Podmore he has a flyfishing charter out of long beach that goes to catalina and the Podmore Anchovie is a legit calico pattern.

Youtube the Calico Syndicate (they have one video just about calico fly patterns that is very helpful!)

Hope this helps! :cheers1:

CON KSO 08-06-2017 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 283818)
My favorite fly for just about everything bigger than a bonefish is the Game Changer articulated sardine. My first trip out with one of these I was hammering the calicos out at Zuniga jetty nearly every cast. In fact, that same fly is still on my 10 Wt over a year later - it holds up very well. Pretty easy to tie once you have the spine pieces to tie with. I found that if you tie a line to the hook eye and the other end to an overhead nail - if you pull straight down on the tail of the fly it is much easier to shape into a fish form using small scissors.
Here is a video on tying it: https://youtu.be/C4hsAERPZ4s

http://m0.i.pbase.com/g9/85/360685/2...0.Cs3twVU1.jpg

Now THAT is a fly! Thanks for the link- looks like I'm going to be fur and feather shopping again. What a beast that thing is.

CON KSO 08-06-2017 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by domtesta27 (Post 283823)
I'll post up some of the flies that im gonna send to bob in a few days, but there are a few good resources on the web to look at besides BWE for calico fly patterns.

Dig around at fliflicker.com that's the socal flyfishing forum.

Also google Vaughn Podmore he has a flyfishing charter out of long beach that goes to catalina and the Podmore Anchovie is a legit calico pattern.

Youtube the Calico Syndicate (they have one video just about calico fly patterns that is very helpful!)

Hope this helps! :cheers1:

Yes- very helpful I found the fliflicker website but got caught up with fly fishing report where the guy (Kim something) and his buddy caught a hundred spotties before lunch time... I must really be doing something wrong. Did find the a short clip by Calico Syndicate guys showing off their calico flies. Will be cool to see what other fly guys are fishing down there. I can very easily bring my vise and tying stuff.

MITCHELL 08-07-2017 03:15 AM

Put me on the list Bob....
 
For the full trip....i have room for one person and there kayak...split gas

makobob 08-07-2017 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHELL (Post 283967)
For the full trip....i have room for one person and there kayak...split gas

Duke you have been added. Will you be caravaning with us? We plan on leaving early on the 20th, spend the night at gongaza then on to Asuncion day two. That makes it two 6-7 hour drives. Each will be responsible for one Dinner and we are on our own for breakfast and lunch. This will be a great trip, do you plan on bringing your canoe? Tight Lines amigos.

MITCHELL 08-07-2017 05:16 AM

Yes...
 
Caravaning with you.

makobob 08-07-2017 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MITCHELL (Post 283967)
For the full trip....i have room for one person and there kayak...split gas

OK guys, here is a half price ride to paradise, Asuncion is a great fishery for both Yellowtail and world class Calicos. Duke has room for one person AND their yak. What moore could you ask for. Tight Lines amigos.

MITCHELL 08-07-2017 04:30 PM

Yes Bob I will be bringing my canoe and my kayak
 
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Originally Posted by makobob (Post 283968)
Duke you have been added. Will you be caravaning with us? We plan on leaving early on the 20th, spend the night at gongaza then on to Asuncion day two. That makes it two 6-7 hour drives. Each will be responsible for one Dinner and we are on our own for breakfast and lunch. This will be a great trip, do you plan on bringing your canoe? Tight Lines amigos.

And a second kayak if someone wants to go if not just me in my f250 4x4 I have a kayak rack for the second kayak

rossman 08-07-2017 05:34 PM

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Two of 4 caught today.

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MITCHELL 08-07-2017 06:21 PM

Nice...
 
Can't wait....:yt::yt:


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