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Baja_Traveler 12-21-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MrPatrick (Post 141974)
Please show the whale pump installation. I'm very interested in that.

Here's a few pics of the whale pump install. Its a Whale Urchin from West Marine with 3/4" flex hose from the same source. A piece of 3/4" pvc pipe goes through the scupper hole to a 3/4" street elbow from Home Depot. The pump is easy to reach from the seat and pumps quite a bit of water with each stroke, so 3-4 pumps every 10-15 minutes should keep bait nice and healthy.

http://www.pbase.com/baja_traveler/image/147965674.jpg

http://www.pbase.com/baja_traveler/image/147965680.jpg

fongman 01-26-2013 12:10 AM

Mirage Drive Splash Dam
 
When a Hobie is cruising above 4 mph, the power produced by the turbo fins forces an excessive amount of water up through the Mirage drive opening. To minimize this, I cut a piece of 1/4" rubber to fit snugly at the end of the drive opening. 2 screws holds it securely to the drive unit. The last picture shows the amount of water in the kayak with the dam in place and peddling about 4.5 mph.
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jorluivil 01-26-2013 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fongman (Post 145692)
When a Hobie is cruising above 4 mph, the power produced by the turbo fins forces an excessive amount of water up through the Mirage drive opening. To minimize this, I cut a piece of 1/4" rubber to fit snugly at the end of the drive opening. 2 screws holds it securely to the drive unit. The last picture shows the amount of water in the kayak with the dam in place and peddling about 4.5 mph.
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...pscab60929.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps4449943d.jpg

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps5d994106.jpg

I'll have to assume you're not aware of this but hobie already makes that part for the drives

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c....1.45bP6HaAghs

fongman 01-26-2013 01:26 AM

Externally Mounted Transducer
 
When I picked up a Lowrance FF, the shape of the transducer convinced me to try an externally mounted, articulating transducer arm. I used plastic bimini top parts for the pivot points (end caps) and the base (deck hinge). It took a few adjustments to get the correct arm lengths and the proper angle entering the water. The first trials were unsuccessful because at higher speeds, air bubbles would form and cause vertical lines in the display (dropouts).

I'm still not sold on this method because it is more maintenance than a below deck mount. However, it may help give someone ideas for making a portable transducer arm.

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...ps54cdff28.jpg

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fongman 01-26-2013 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 145694)
I'll have to assume you're not aware of this but hobie already makes that part for the drives

You're right, I didn't know it. I haven't been in a Hobie store in quite a while and when I made it, I don't think there was one available. So..........never mind!

StinkyMatt 01-26-2013 04:33 PM

Check out Mad Frog Liberaror. basically what you have there.

fongman 01-26-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 145728)
Check out Mad Frog Liberaror. basically what you have there.

I like the smaller tubes they used, but I wasn't about to spend $40.00 for one! Mine cost under $10.00. One of the reason for posting is to show some of the newbies alternatives to buying pre-made products. I remember a while back there were some discussions on how to make something like this.

dsafety 01-27-2013 06:02 AM

100,000 Views
 
It was another dark and stormy night, not unlike the one about three years ago when I submitted my first contribution to the "Share Your Innovations" thread. After reading the most recent posts in this tread, I noticed that the number of views had just clicked over 100,000. Wow, that seems like a lot to me.

Just for fun, I started at the beginning and reviewed all the posts in this thread. There is a lot of good stuff in there. I counted at least a dozen great ideas that I have borrowed and personally used.

Thanks to all who have contributed over the years and also to BWE for making this milestone possible.

Bob

Chuck D 01-27-2013 04:59 PM

Hobie Baitank Drain location modification
 
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We'll after a series of events I decided to try adding a bait tank modification to my Hobie Bait tank. I purchased a scupper hole mount for my new fish finder so I could get some accurate reads. Then my Hobie bait tank was missing its drain hole. The water would almost fill up the back of my Outback making it a heavier and sloppy ride. So heres what I did. I figured that if I want to switch back I can always cap the hole.

TheBentRod 01-28-2013 08:31 PM

ChuckD. Very interesting. I am not ready to modify the Bait tank just yet, but this is a good idea. Do you notice a drastic improvement on the FF? I am sure the temp reading is helpful.

Chuck D 01-29-2013 07:05 PM

Stan,
Whats up bro! I have to say the readings are spot on now. It is a slight improvment in quality of finder since my hummingbird, but I believe having the ducer in the water sure is nice. Perfect temps and spot on readings. I had a seal buzzing my yak the other night for about an hour which gave me some time to test the accuracy, it worked great. Found some great structure too, landed me a nice fat bug! Hope all is well man, cant wait till the big trip.

inbx3 02-02-2013 09:18 PM

Yakima J Cradle Fix
 
So I was getting tired of having my cradles rotate everytime I hit with my kayak. The Yakima bars are round and no matter how much I tighten them the alwys end up like this.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/P1080542.JPG

So I figured there has to be a way to keep them straight so over to Home Depot I went and $8 later here's the finished solution.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/P1080545.JPG

I took a couple of 3/4" electrical conduit, cut it to the correct size, drilled a couple of holes in each end to line them up with the J cradles, flattened out the ends a bit and now they don't rotate.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...0/P1080544.JPG

bus kid 02-17-2013 02:47 PM

Wet transducer scupper mount.
 
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So I'm considering a hobie bait tank, but having the the toro sprinkled head holding my transducer in place no water can get out.
so it was time for a change. I came across a guy that made a custom mount for his here,

http://www.yakangler.com/forum/21-lo...son-kayak-cuda

After looking it over as well as the Lowrance one I decided it cant be that hard to make one that allows water to
flow out if I do decide to get a Hobie bait tank. The Lowrance uses a plastic piece of all thread as well as a "doughnut" to hold the transducer in place which to me seems like a design flaw.
So I got some 1/16 thick aluminum, a 1/4 dia x 1 inch long stainless nut, bolt and lock washers,
a 3/8 by 3 inch long all thread and the nut to go with it. last a 4 square inch 3/16 thick piece of ABS plastic. After all the measuring this is what I came up with.
I plugged the open scupper filled my current bait tank to the brim and let it drain into the well area as the hose was running keeping the tank level for about 20 mins, it didn't flood and looks like this might be a viable option but
without being on the water I'm not 100% sure that it will drain. So some OTW testing will be needed before I commit to the Hobie.

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captnblood34 02-17-2013 06:01 PM

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I wanted so bad to have a wet scupper mount application for the deucer but, because of its unnatural bulge, and having to be constantly concious of not dragging it on whatever surface I launch from or my tailgate I decided against it. This is an alternitive that I found works quite well. DUCT SEAL. Its practically play-dough. Except for the fact it can get wet, not harden, holds its shape, causes no permananet damage, isn't messy, etc... Here is how I applied it. I made a little pool around the transdeucer with it and just splash some water in it to help in the temp reading. Even used a little on the bottom of my battery box to hold it wedged in place. This stuff rocks. A 16oz package cost under 3 bones at lowes. Best part is my FF is still in practically new/unused condition. Its just nice to keep nice stuff nice. Hope this is exactly what somebody was looking for!

And the same boys that drag my rig up on the beach after I'm done fishing, helped install the FF! If you got 'em, put 'em to work!:the_finger:







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bus kid 02-17-2013 06:49 PM

The prob I see with the duct seal is that its not strong enough to hold if you put something inside the hatch that can dislodge it, say the wheels off of your cart or a big fish. I also keep a kill bag with ice packs in the hatch which would throw off the temp readings. I have had my transducer thru the scupper since I got the kayak. I transport it in the back of my truck and surf launch and land on a regular basis. You just got to be mindful of it. As you can see its pretty scratched up but it works like the day I got it.

BrokeLoser 02-18-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 147880)
So I'm considering a hobie bait tank, but having the the toro sprinkled head holding my transducer in place no water can get out.
so it was time for a change. I came across a guy that made a custom mount for his here,

http://www.yakangler.com/forum/21-lo...son-kayak-cuda

After looking it over as well as the Lowrance one I decided it cant be that hard to make one that allows water to
flow out if I do decide to get a Hobie bait tank. The Lowrance uses a plastic piece of all thread as well as a "doughnut" to hold the transducer in place which to me seems like a design flaw.
So I got some 1/16 thick aluminum, a 1/4 dia x 1 inch long stainless nut, bolt and lock washers,
a 3/8 by 3 inch long all thread and the nut to go with it. last a 4 square inch 3/16 thick piece of ABS plastic. After all the measuring this is what I came up with.
I plugged the open scupper filled my current bait tank to the brim and let it drain into the well area as the hose was running keeping the tank level for about 20 mins, it didn't flood and looks like this might be a viable option but
without being on the water I'm not 100% sure that it will drain. So some OTW testing will be needed before I commit to the Hobie.

WOW...I really like this.
Let me know how it works out Bus.

bus kid 02-18-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokeLoser (Post 147941)
WOW...I really like this.
Let me know how it works out Bus.

I will post up some OTW video asap slated to work the next 16 days straight:doh:

BrokeLoser 02-18-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 147943)
I will post up some OTW video asap slated to work the next 16 days straight:doh:

Cool, I'll look for your post.
Sounds like we're on the same schedule...:(

Jimmyz123 02-19-2013 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 147890)
The prob I see with the duct seal is that its not strong enough to hold if you put something inside the hatch that can dislodge it, say the wheels off of your cart or a big fish. I also keep a kill bag with ice packs in the hatch which would throw off the temp readings. I have had my transducer thru the scupper since I got the kayak. I transport it in the back of my truck and surf launch and land on a regular basis. You just got to be mindful of it. As you can see its pretty scratched up but it works like the day I got it.

I have had my ducer installed with Duct seal and dropped the Kayak off the roof of my SUV 2 times and it never came loose. I have stored extra paddles, waders, and other junk inside and it's never come loose. I have mine installed using a sponge frame so maybe that helps keep it in place. I do like your install and have my wheels turning about installing that way on mine as well. Thanks for making think man, it's too early in the morning for that.

SoCalCJ 02-21-2013 01:22 PM

PA External Bow Storage Bungee
 
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PA12 External bow hatch storage. Quick and easy option to stash some stuff during launch or throughout the day!

jorluivil 02-28-2013 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by kemberlysaver (Post 149003)
After using the gold detector professional I found that it is really a good device, it can not only help to save time but also can help you to save energy. And besides being used for looking for gold, the gold metal detectors can alao be used to help the archologist in finding treasures and used in many other important places as security tool.

That's not an innovation.....or is it:rolleyes:

Deamon 02-28-2013 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by kemberlysaver (Post 149003)
After using the gold detector professional I found that it is really a good device, it can not only help to save time but also can help you to save energy. And besides being used for looking for gold, the gold metal detectors can alao be used to help the archologist in finding treasures and used in many other important places as security tool.

WTF? Can you peddle your wares elsewhere? This is a kayak website. No metal detectors...no cell phones...no Range Rovers... I say anyone with over 2000 posts should be allowed to delete shit posts like this one. "save time by using a gold metal detector"...? Hey Kemberly... :the_finger:

bus kid 02-28-2013 01:07 PM

[QUOTE=Deamon; I say anyone with over 2000 posts should be allowed to delete shit posts like this one. "save time by using a gold metal detector"...? Hey Kemberly... :the_finger:[/QUOTE]

F#@kin' A, I agree!

Raskal311 03-06-2013 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalCJ (Post 148244)
PA12 External bow hatch storage. Quick and easy option to stash some stuff during launch or throughout the day!

Thanks for the idea, I'll be doing this this weekend.

lterrero 03-07-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck D (Post 145826)
We'll after a series of events I decided to try adding a bait tank modification to my Hobie Bait tank. I purchased a scupper hole mount for my new fish finder so I could get some accurate reads. Then my Hobie bait tank was missing its drain hole. The water would almost fill up the back of my Outback making it a heavier and sloppy ride. So heres what I did. I figured that if I want to switch back I can always cap the hole.

Chuck, thanks for the tip, good alternative and small squid can run away thru the drain hole? I bet you put a screen..?

FishNinjaY 03-07-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 147880)
So I'm considering a hobie bait tank, but having the the toro sprinkled head holding my transducer in place no water can get out.
so it was time for a change. I came across a guy that made a custom mount for his here,

http://www.yakangler.com/forum/21-lo...son-kayak-cuda

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...8&d=1361144888

I wondered if anyone ever tried running the transducer to a spot on the bottom near a scupper hole, but then used a heat gun to soften the area, and mold inward an indentation, with a glass bottle? This way the transducer would be recessed and not scrape on the sand or ground? Any thoughts?

Baitman 03-17-2013 07:08 PM

Two reasons not to do that heat gun trick.
One is it won't work. Memory will push back to original shape,,, only with distortion.
Two, you'll weaken the area.

Cbad Mike 03-18-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by FishNinjaY (Post 149863)
I wondered if anyone ever tried running the transducer to a spot on the bottom near a scupper hole, but then used a heat gun to soften the area, and mold inward an indentation, with a glass bottle? This way the transducer would be recessed and not scrape on the sand or ground? Any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by Baitman (Post 150947)
Two reasons not to do that heat gun trick.
One is it won't work WRONG Memory will push back to original shape WRONG,,, only with distortion WRONG.
Two, you'll weaken the area WRONG. (Because you can re enforce the area to be actually stronger)



YES I have done this. I had a busted up kayak that I molded the underside of it for a transducer. I got the idea and then practiced on the busted up kayak. It is tricky but possible. I did a total of 4 good and workable indentations. I did not do them near the scupper holes because if it got Fd up it would be too hard to repair. I used a blow torch and a heat gun. NO, memory does not push it back into shape as stated by Baitman. It takes some time because you definately dont want to rush doing it. I decided not to do it on my Malibu only because I dont think it would make a difference since I use an Eagle Cuda FF. If I had a better FF like the Lowrance 5 then I would have done it. If its something that your really considering contact me. I will not do it for you because I dont want to be responsible for your kayak but I will explain exactly how I did it, and did it correctly.

Mike

dsafety 03-19-2013 01:43 PM

Something for the guys who fish at night
 
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On a recent vacation to the Caribbean, I saw something that might be of interest to those who fish at night. One of the tourist adventure places took a bunch of clear kayaks and glued some 12V LED Strip lights to the edges of the yaks. They would then take tourists out to check out the night life on the local reefs.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...1&d=1363728270

The kayaks could be seen for miles and, according to some people I spoke with who went out on one of these things, the lights worked quite well when it came to illuminating the reefs below.

I did a Google search and discovered that these strip lights are available from dozens of sources in many color temperatures, illumination angles and in both waterproof and regular versions. It would be interesting to see if this idea could be adapted to our kayaks and whether they would prove to be useful out on the open water.

Someone should give this a try.

Bob

FishNinjaY 03-19-2013 01:47 PM

I would think that much white LED lighting would mess up your night vision. Sucks for fishing perhaps, but might be good for sightseeing? Cool pic.

StinkyMatt 03-19-2013 04:07 PM

Can you say Squid light?:D

tacklebox 03-19-2013 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StinkyMatt (Post 151121)
Can you say Squid light?:D

Squid light.

silentviper 03-19-2013 05:07 PM

I've wanted to do something of this sort for my PA14 and mount some strips of led lights underneath the mounting rails as deck lights, i guess you could mount some on the outside of the hull and make all kinds of light show effects (Boat Parade anyone?)

benefit of this stuff is it's waterproof and if you cut it and solder wires in to patch it i heard all you have to do is epoxy it. http://www.amazon.com/300LEDs-multi-...ef=pd_sbs_lg_4

dsafety 03-19-2013 06:38 PM

So who will be the first on the West Coast to give this a try?

You can splice different colors together, (they make red and green for the bow). There are versions that send the light straight out or at a 90 degree angle downwards. There are multiple color temperatures available ranging from the cool, blue/white to warm which is yellowish like a candle flame.

The ones I saw were attached to the hull with something similar to Goop. Since the strips are flexible, almost any adhesive will probably work.

If you really want to get innovative, you could have multiple circuits. One for colored bow and stern lights. Another with a down facing, bait attracting array and a third to just light your way and make your little kayak highly visible at night.

The really cool thing is that since these are LED, they hardly use any juice at all. A full array of lights could run all night, probably multiple nights on a single charge.

If this catches on, I can see the possibility that some kayak manufactures might consider adding recessed mounting grooves, to allow for easy installation, as a feature included in future models.

Bob

Matar 03-20-2013 07:58 PM

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So I got into the gopro times.
Trying to figure out how to make a pole, and came up with this.
Got a piece of 1-1/4" PVDF pipe and a cap that I had laying around at work.
Looks like it will work.
Put an LED flash light in the pipe, and you have a light pole at night.
The light glow puts off just enough light to see but not to mess up you night vision.

Cbad Mike 03-20-2013 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matar (Post 151250)
So I got into the gopro times.
Trying to figure out how to make a pole, and came up with this.
Got a piece of 1-1/4" PVDF pipe and a cap that I had laying around at work.
Looks like it will work.
Put an LED flash light in the pipe, and you have a light pole at night.
The light glow puts off just enough light to see but not to mess up you night vision.

GoPro Light Saber..... I like it.

dorado50 03-21-2013 01:30 AM

Bob, your led lights idea is awesome! I am in the process of putting leds all around my kayak. I am going to use the red and green theme. I am hoping to get a bunch of yaks together this christmas and put together a kayak parade of lights like they do in SD bay. I'm going to put a blow-up santa on my green stick and maybe an elf or two.....:kayak-surfer:. Also thinking of installing under water lights in kayak just like the ones on big boats.

ericko 03-21-2013 12:59 PM

I did this to my PA 12 put the lights under the rails and i also made a night light with blue and white led's for when i go hooping been told you can see me from a very far distance... id put up some pictures but just dont know how and to lazy to learn.... I was able to get the lights from JK electronics in westminster.. If you really want pic's i can send them from my phone..

MrM 03-21-2013 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ericko (Post 151309)
I did this to my PA 12 put the lights under the rails and i also made a night light with blue and white led's for when i go hooping been told you can see me from a very far distance... id put up some pictures but just dont know how and to lazy to learn.... I was able to get the lights from JK electronics in westminster.. If you really want pic's i can send them from my phone..

By far the best electronics supply store this side of Orange County. Friendly, helpful, knowledgeable staff. They recently expanded their store as well. I've been going here for 10-15 years it seems.

JarrodMc 03-25-2013 09:01 PM

I mounted a red LED on the center of my yak for night fishing and that thing is bright. It works pretty well. Wade and CBad Mike have seen it on the water.


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