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King Saba 04-23-2018 09:01 PM

A giant laid to rest 4/23/18
 
Damn shame. Found this guy floating today. Looked to be 6-7'. Maybe 80-100lbs? I thought it was a dead dog initially.

http://i.imgur.com/z6qtlEbl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1iHdb5ll.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2ffBbn2l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0cjFQqal.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/55YEh6ol.jpg
We got some dinner at least though

http://i.imgur.com/lxQzzQ2l.jpg

Orca Winfrey 04-23-2018 10:04 PM

It would have fit nicely in your hatch. Fermented BSB is delicious.

Oolie 04-23-2018 11:13 PM

Lame
 
Unfortunate mortality.
They really do tire themselves out, good a time as any for the PSA...
Not for the OP, but a general note!
Carrying a descender at all times is good practice, as you never know when you might hook one of these.
The longer they remain on the surface, the greater the likelihood of them ending as a floater a day or even a week later.
Mortality odds decrease significantly the quicker they are returned to a depth where they can fend for themselves.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=32807

Thanks for the report OP, sorry you had to bear the bad news.

blitzburgh 04-24-2018 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey (Post 292536)
It would have fit nicely in your hatch. Fermented BSB is delicious.

LOL

Orca Winfrey 04-24-2018 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oolie (Post 292537)
Unfortunate mortality.
They really do tire themselves out, good a time as any for the PSA...
Not for the OP, but a general note!
Carrying a descender at all times is good practice, as you never know when you might hook one of these.
The longer they remain on the surface, the greater the likelihood of them ending as a floater a day or even a week later.
Mortality odds decrease significantly the quicker they are returned to a depth where they can fend for themselves.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=32807

Thanks for the report OP, sorry you had to bear the bad news.

In all seriousness, great info. Heartbreaking to see thing like this.

dos ballenas 04-24-2018 09:52 AM

Bummer on the GSB (Giant Seabass)!Thanks for reprting it though!

Sadly this happens often when less experienced anglers release them. As stated above these fish sometimes need a lot of help recovering after a long drawn out fight. A little extra effort in reviving them can go a long ways.

Next time you or anyone else encounters something like this please shoot a call over to the lifeguards or call the stranding hotline at the South West Fisheries Science Center.... which is just up the hill from Scripps Pier. Or call Scripps as they would have launched a boat and been out there in 10 minutes to collect it.

San Diego County:

Stranding Hotline #

(858) 546-7162

https://swfsc.noaa.gov/

The fish could have been utilized for biological samples. There is a lot of research currently going on with these guys.... every sample helps! :you_rock:

dos ballenas 04-24-2018 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oolie (Post 292537)
Unfortunate mortality.
They really do tire themselves out, good a time as any for the PSA...
Not for the OP, but a general note!
Carrying a descender at all times is good practice, as you never know when you might hook one of these.
The longer they remain on the surface, the greater the likelihood of them ending as a floater a day or even a week later.
Mortality odds decrease significantly the quicker they are returned to a depth where they can fend for themselves.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=32807

Thanks for the report OP, sorry you had to bear the bad news.

And carry some extra lead... the bigger the fish the more weight needed to get her down to depth! :you_rock:

NICKWORN 04-24-2018 10:59 AM

HMMM
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Oolie (Post 292537)
Unfortunate mortality.
They really do tire themselves out, good a time as any for the PSA...
Not for the OP, but a general note!
Carrying a descender at all times is good practice, as you never know when you might hook one of these.
The longer they remain on the surface, the greater the likelihood of them ending as a floater a day or even a week later.
Mortality odds decrease significantly the quicker they are returned to a depth where they can fend for themselves.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?t=32807

Thanks for the report OP, sorry you had to bear the bad news.

That would be some pretty heavy weight to be storing in your kayak. Persistence always pays off with these black beasts. I guarantee it was a Private Boater, 9 out 10 times they leave floating do to not being able to reach over the side of their boat far enough. Its actually quite easy to get these guys back down without weight in a kayak.

Saba Slayer 04-24-2018 12:01 PM

Redondo
 
"Next time you or anyone else encounters something like this please shoot a call over to the lifeguards or call the stranding hotline at the South West Fisheries Science Center.... which is just up the hill from Scripps Pier. Or call Scripps as they would have launched a boat and been out there in 10 minutes to collect it."

They must have a really fast boat at at the science center to make it to Redondo in 10 minutes...LOL :cheers1:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...eoutput_7.jpeg

King Saba 04-24-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saba Slayer (Post 292557)
"Next time you or anyone else encounters something like this please shoot a call over to the lifeguards or call the stranding hotline at the South West Fisheries Science Center.... which is just up the hill from Scripps Pier. Or call Scripps as they would have launched a boat and been out there in 10 minutes to collect it."

They must have a really fast boat at at the science center to make it to Redondo in 10 minutes...LOL :cheers1:

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...eoutput_7.jpeg

Teleportation. lol. It looked to be dead for half a day when we found it. Slime coat coming off, eyes foggy, gills pink/red.

Iceman 04-24-2018 12:29 PM

It can suck up your whole morning but you never give up trying to get em to go down and watch your meter and make sure they descend. Morally obligated! Sad to see a floater. I have found getting their head down will get em going in the right direction.

dos ballenas 04-24-2018 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NICKWORN (Post 292556)
That would be some pretty heavy weight to be storing in your kayak. Persistence always pays off with these black beasts. I guarantee it was a Private Boater, 9 out 10 times they leave floating do to not being able to reach over the side of their boat far enough. Its actually quite easy to get these guys back down without weight in a kayak.

Disagree on both the 9 out of 10 comment, and the not being able to reach over the side comment.

But kayakers these days know everything and are way better than people that own power boats. So you're probably right :rolleyes:

dos ballenas 04-24-2018 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Saba (Post 292559)
Teleportation. lol. It looked to be dead for half a day when we found it. Slime coat coming off, eyes foggy, gills pink/red.

Redondo? Couldn't have been.... we all know La Jolla is the only spot GSB live :D

Still fresh enough to be worthy of sampling! Plenty of people in Redondo that would have really appreciated the call... Larry Allen is working on the age and growth rates of these guys... he is pretty fishy and does a lot of work to help the community:

https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-C.../dp/1421418320

King Saba 04-24-2018 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dos ballenas (Post 292563)
Redondo? Couldn't have been.... we all know La Jolla is the only spot GSB live :D

Still fresh enough to be worthy of sampling! Plenty of people in Redondo that would have really appreciated the call... Larry Allen is working on the age and growth rates of these guys... he is pretty fishy and does a lot of work to help the community:

https://www.amazon.com/Field-Guide-C.../dp/1421418320

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind the next time I'm out. It's the first time I've seen a floater in the years I've fished the area.

Saba Slayer 04-24-2018 02:15 PM

yea
 
yea, King Saba...I agree...never seen one myself..."It's the first time I've seen a floater in the years I've fished the area."
There are a lot of big boys along the edges of the Redondo Canyon...My biggest fish out of a kayak was one of these giants...Their mouths are huge it's almost scary trying to get the hook out...and they are so strong you can really feel their big tail beating when you hook one and he slowly moves away and there's nothing you can do but hang on and hope he'll get tired eventually...before you do...:notworthy:

YakDout 04-24-2018 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dos ballenas (Post 292562)



But kayakers these days know everything and are way better than people that own power boats. So you're probably right :rolleyes:



Very true.

Didn’t know they needed samples for studies. Next time I gaff one I’ll bring it to them. Well the head at least.

Orca Winfrey 04-24-2018 05:54 PM

:)
Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 292571)
Very true.

Didn’t know they needed samples for studies. Next time I gaff one I’ll bring it to them. Well the head at least.


Phishphood 04-24-2018 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 292571)
Very true.

Didn’t know they needed samples for studies. Next time I gaff one I’ll bring it to them. Well the head at least.

Hey we only want the heads from the white ones

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pistol 04-25-2018 07:23 AM

Sad To See This
 
Caught my third one of the year yesterday and successfully revived all three. Yes, it takes some time and can be risky as you turn them over, but well worth the risk when you see what is at stake. I would rather flip over trying to revive one of these great fish than leave it floating.

NICKWORN 04-26-2018 08:34 AM

Agree to disagree
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dos ballenas (Post 292562)
Disagree on both the 9 out of 10 comment, and the not being able to reach over the side comment.

But kayakers these days know everything and are way better than people that own power boats. So you're probably right :rolleyes:

I’ve personally watched my buddy Grant spend an hour or so CPR’ing One left behind by a boater during the hot squid bite last year.

So yea 9 out of 10 is an exaggeration but I still feel kayakers typically complete the CPR more effectively by being able to put hands on these fish and guiding there head towards the bottom, while boaters struggle to reach them and refer to using gaff or whatever to try and push them back towards the bottom. But hey agree to disagree!

And no not all PVB are dicks!!


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