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radastaff 08-07-2016 08:20 AM

i almost died fish report, Dana looking
 
I hit Dana yesterday
launched dark-30
4 mi out and back
no tuna, some bait balls, some terns here and there
lots of dolphins in the afternoon

almost died part...

Was early morning still, about 2 mi out.
While still heading straight out I noticed a yacht type fishing boat(rather big) at full throttle on a collision course to me heading southbound. I started paddling faster to get outta the way, he corrected course to keep at me. So I stopped paddling thinking that would do it, but he corrected course again to keep at me. I could see the skipper at the helm, it was a tower type setup. At this point I started to freak out since there was only seconds before he was bearing down on top of me.
So I pointed my yak at him, ready to make a quick maneuver left or right, with only seconds left. Only thing I could think with the few seconds left was to raise my paddle and make myself more visible. Well just before impact(with no reduction in his speed before) the dude hit a hard right, creating a 5 foot wake wave just feet from me, then sped off southbound. He gave me the shrugged shoulders and I gave him the bloody deck salute.
The snotty conditions prob had helped in me staying in my yak, since I was already dealing with a tippy yak and was being extra careful.
I didn't get the boat name nor numbers, it happened just to fast.

I almost died...

After that I cussed him out on chan 72 with no response.
And got out my flare gun which I kept in my life vest the rest of the day.
At the ready.

Damn glad I bought my ACR PLB and had it on my life vest at the time,
also glad I didn't need to use it.

stay frosty out there

P

SmokinBass 08-07-2016 08:41 AM

Crazy story! Glad to hear you're ok.

battleborn 08-07-2016 08:59 AM

Flare guns make great signal devices.

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h2ofishfo 08-07-2016 09:12 AM

Now that's a REAL almost died post crazy

2-Stix 08-07-2016 12:47 PM

gnarly

taggermike 08-07-2016 03:40 PM

That's some scary shit right there. Good to hear you're ok. When you hear, or are involved in, situations like this you gotta wonder if the boats operator is negligent. Ignorant, or a raging S-head. Mike

Orca Winfrey 08-07-2016 05:39 PM

What a bastard. Makes me mad just reading this. Glad you're ok. You've got some great self control not shooting that flare gun at him after he passed you. No I would not make a good cop.

jorluivil 08-07-2016 06:13 PM

much like on the roads, the guy with the bigger toy always thinks he owns the road,

iethinker 08-07-2016 06:30 PM

Bigger Boats
 
It was musical chairs in Solana with this sportboat today. He cut between me and the other Kayak shown here. Luckily he drives slow. Also, I heard him mention to his clients over the PA to "Not cast at Kayakers". Good to know he was aware of us. I think he was stealing my numbers because he was around me for a 1.5-mile stretch...HA!

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/...psvjz9jnb9.png

radastaff 08-07-2016 10:04 PM

great pict there, heh
I think I've been there a few times too

I had the flare gun in my hold during the rooster tail
but got it out after he sped away first thing.

Will keep it closer in the future
And maybe gopro or just a new wp camera

I felt assaulted with deadly force
kinda a one sided game of chicken

f'nsabiki 08-07-2016 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iethinker (Post 266976)
It was musical chairs in Solana with this sportboat today. He cut between me and the other Kayak shown here. Luckily he drives slow. Also, I heard him mention to his clients over the PA to "Not cast at Kayakers". Good to know he was aware of us. I think he was stealing my numbers because he was around me for a 1.5-mile stretch...HA!

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/...psvjz9jnb9.png

That's me in the photo. The deck hand said he was going to "chum up some fish" for me. I asked him to chum up a hamburger instead---never got it!!http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/i...the_finger.gif

Deamon 08-08-2016 04:54 AM

Total B.S. by boaters...they throw you the largest wake and look back around the time they think the wake will hit.

We had a very large sailboat (running an outboard motor, no sails up) w Arizona tags go right through a few of us yaks (in Mission Bay channel). We were tight, tight making our way in against current.... So we all had to maneuver to avoid getting hit. The dude had plenty of time to go around us. But no, he had show his group what a big boy's able to accomplish. Well, the typical Jim Kelley barrage of every cuss word came flying out of my mouth...with venom and fire, lol. I've kind of been known for this behavior...so I've been told. I call it temporary insanity. They were only 5' away and I came in fairly LOUD AND CLEAR. I'm pretty sure I saw MOMO blush and pray for my forgiveness. Their group kind of looked like a family (lol) and so, the Zonie started apologizing profusely trying to get me to stop swearing. Mom's like covering her kids ears, shuffling them below deck...I'm pretty sure that a-hole will think twice before he splits through kayaks in the future...:the_finger::D:the_finger:

Oh yeah...any stupid boater (with kids) who tries to bomb his lobster traps on top of my traps gets an earful until they pick up and leave too...:the_finger:
P.S...this behavior doesn't deliver the same level of effectiveness without children on board...:D:the_finger:
Jim

kareem korn 08-08-2016 05:29 AM

Maybe it's time to start using the orange flag like we do on our sand toys in Glamis.

Harry Hill 08-08-2016 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iethinker (Post 266976)
It was musical chairs in Solana with this sportboat today. He cut between me and the other Kayak shown here. Luckily he drives slow. Also, I heard him mention to his clients over the PA to "Not cast at Kayakers". Good to know he was aware of us. I think he was stealing my numbers because he was around me for a 1.5-mile stretch...HA!

http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/...psvjz9jnb9.png

that same boat almost ran over me in Mission Bay, bore right down on me and made me paddle towards the rocks to miss getting run over. I think he just likes to bully kayakers.

jbl_91762 08-08-2016 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radastaff (Post 266946)
I hit Dana yesterday
launched dark-30
4 mi out and back
no tuna, some bait balls, some terns here and there
lots of dolphins in the afternoon

almost died part...

Was early morning still, about 2 mi out.
While still heading straight out I noticed a yacht type fishing boat(rather big) at full throttle on a collision course to me heading southbound. I started paddling faster to get outta the way, he corrected course to keep at me. So I stopped paddling thinking that would do it, but he corrected course again to keep at me. I could see the skipper at the helm, it was a tower type setup. At this point I started to freak out since there was only seconds before he was bearing down on top of me.
So I pointed my yak at him, ready to make a quick maneuver left or right, with only seconds left. Only thing I could think with the few seconds left was to raise my paddle and make myself more visible. Well just before impact(with no reduction in his speed before) the dude hit a hard right, creating a 5 foot wake wave just feet from me, then sped off southbound. He gave me the shrugged shoulders and I gave him the bloody deck salute.
The snotty conditions prob had helped in me staying in my yak, since I was already dealing with a tippy yak and was being extra careful.
I didn't get the boat name nor numbers, it happened just to fast.

I almost died...

After that I cussed him out on chan 72 with no response.
And got out my flare gun which I kept in my life vest the rest of the day.
At the ready.

Damn glad I bought my ACR PLB and had it on my life vest at the time,
also glad I didn't need to use it.

stay frosty out there

P

Damn crazy story right there and glad your ok. Im new to the sport but hope that never happens to me. If it ever does I know I'd be stalking the boat launch looking our for the A-holes and give them shit, hoping he would throw a punch...I just hate jerks like that.

stevie951 08-08-2016 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deamon (Post 266989)
Total B.S. by boaters...
P.S...this behavior doesn't deliver the same level of effectiveness without children on board...:D:the_finger:
Jim

LMAO that's where the flare gun comes into play :rolleyes::cool::D:the_finger:
:cheers1:

radastaff 08-08-2016 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareem korn (Post 266990)
Maybe it's time to start using the orange flag like we do on our sand toys in Glamis.

he saw me
he course corrected
twice

flag is a good idea
regardless

radastaff 08-08-2016 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbl_91762 (Post 267036)
Damn crazy story right there and glad your ok. Im new to the sport but hope that never happens to me. If it ever does I know I'd be stalking the boat launch looking our for the A-holes and give them shit, hoping he would throw a punch...I just hate jerks like that.

prob slipped in Oceanside or Mission
or maybe Newport
who knows
too tired too hang out and around
a shack burger was due to get into my belly at playa del rey
long drive

wish I had got the boat name

radastaff 08-08-2016 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Harry Hill (Post 267004)
that same boat almost ran over me in Mission Bay, bore right down on me and made me paddle towards the rocks to miss getting run over. I think he just likes to bully kayakers.

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...l6-14-11-1.jpg

just another micro aggression

P

Fishin Phil 08-09-2016 04:00 AM

You should have hailed the Coast Guard on channel 16. If he isn't stopped he will continue his foolishness until someone gets hurt. This guy needs to get off the water. Endangering other boaters is not entertainment. Next time set a MOB (man over board way point) and note the time. You can give this information (latitude and longitude) to the Coast Guard and they have AIS and can Identify the vessel by playing back their GPS.

radastaff 08-09-2016 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishin Phil (Post 267080)
You should have hailed the Coast Guard on channel 16. If he isn't stopped he will continue his foolishness until someone gets hurt. This guy needs to get off the water. Endangering other boaters is not entertainment. Next time set a MOB (man over board way point) and note the time. You can give this information (latitude and longitude) to the Coast Guard and they have AIS and can Identify the vessel by playing back their GPS.

hrmm
interesting

whats AIS?

The skipper does need to have his boat removed from his possession.
I agree he prob. will do this to another kayaker again.


This will not happen again to me.
Or we are both going down.
The rule of law is dead in this country

Fishin Phil 08-10-2016 10:26 AM

Automatic Identification system. It is a location and vessel reporting system. It allows vessels equipped with AIS to automatically receive position, speed, course and vessel Identity information from other AIS equipped vessels.

wiredantz 08-10-2016 12:25 PM

Glad your still alive.


Visibility is the key factor, here.



I especiallyhate itwhen big boaters pass me within 10-20 ft and create such a large wake that it picks up my stern and i have to surf it.


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:





On a boater's perspective:

I couple of weeks ago i drove a boat from catalina to long beach about 26mph.
I was monitoring the GPS, trying to keep my stability while keeping the bow above the wakes, trying to make sure no kayakers were in front of me, and watching the instruments.


which is hard on a kayak, because the only thing that comes to mind is the yak attack flag folds while launching to keep visibility.

radastaff 08-10-2016 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz (Post 267147)
Glad your still alive.


Visibility is the key factor, here.



I especiallyhate itwhen big boaters pass me within 10-20 ft and create such a large wake that it picks up my stern and i have to surf it.


:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:





On a boater's perspective:

I couple of weeks ago i drove a boat from catalina to long beach about 26mph.
I was monitoring the GPS, trying to keep my stability while keeping the bow above the wakes, trying to make sure no kayakers were in front of me, and watching the instruments.


which is hard on a kayak, because the only thing that comes to mind is the yak attack flag folds while launching to keep visibility.


def getting a flag...
maybe a sponge bob square pants flag


http://www.lots4kids.com.au/images/F..._Plastic_3.jpg

radastaff 08-10-2016 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fishin Phil (Post 267141)
Automatic Identification system. On some GPS units.

thanks..

PapaDave 08-11-2016 06:40 AM

I had a sailboat bear down on me at DP once and when I brought it to his attention his reply was, "I'm bigger", and he kept coming. I yelled back "LAWYER!".

He turned.


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