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ProfessorLongArms 03-03-2018 10:07 AM

Best vehicle for hauling a kayak?
 
I love my little 99 4cyl single cab Tacoma, but it’s kinda dumb for hauling a kayak around. Has a clamshell bed cover that’s great for storing and locking, but I have to use a square reciever mounted T post to haul my yak and it is less than ideal. Rather than camper shell it, I figured it’s a good opportunity for a 4x4 upgrade.

I’m thinking of getting rid of it and going for either a truck with a camper shell or an SUV. Thinking 4cyl or efficient 6. Def 4x4 for Baja. Ideally enough room to camp in the back. Would love to go trailer eventually but that’s a conversation for a different house :)

I’m eyeing an old Xterra, 4Runner, Tacoma, or frontier.

Curious if anyone has a ride that they particularly love for hauling their kayaks (or for that matter one they especially hate)

nmeofun 03-03-2018 10:16 AM

It's SoCal... you need to go with a lifted diesel w/ at least 35 inch tires!

On a serious note; you could keep what you have and just go w/ a rack system. My truck (yes, it's a diesel) fits my boat in the bed but I also got the overhead rack so I can take multiple boats. Once you get used to loading it's pretty easy to do by yourself.

You mention a trailer, so you may want to keep that in mind if you change trucks. Although it's not in the cards now, trucks have different towing capacities and you don't want to find that you underestimated your needs when the time comes. Unless you're just talking about a trailer to tow your kayak in which case you could just get a Miata!

ful-rac 03-03-2018 10:41 AM

You have a snug top, type cover correct? If so take it off and put a rack on it. Sounds like you already have a great vehicle for hauling your kayak around.


With that said, a newer 4 runner would be nice...

tacmik 03-03-2018 12:01 PM

Tractor trailer. A brand new Peterbuilt with a 55 ft trail will haul everything easily.

YakDout 03-03-2018 02:20 PM

Im confused. You’re currently driving a Tacoma but you are looking at Tacoma’s? Are you simply looking for a 4 wheel drive vehicle? If you like the Tacoma’s, Ditch your two wheel drive truck and buy a 4x4 Tacoma. Great baja vehicle.

fourtogo 03-05-2018 12:34 AM

Kayak hauler
 
Dodge Maxi Van 3500 12 footer on floor . 14 footer with rack . Drive in fast lane , no trailer nobody can see what you have .

monstahfish 03-05-2018 09:27 PM

I'd caution against the xterra for roof height alone. I had one for a few years and it did everything I ever asked of it, but getting the yak on the roof was a pain. I drive a 2011 4wd ford escape and it's been low maintenance tows small and medium trailers fairly well, has easily roamed the beach at Makoville, even surprised people by how well it did on the sand and taken me into moderately difficult trails in the sierras and east coast. Ground clearance becomes an issue at some point though.

MITCHELL 03-06-2018 02:50 AM

I say what every runs....
 
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Tractor trailer. A brand new Peterbuilt with a 55 ft trail will haul everything easily.

If there's a will there's a way....
Reheat yesterdays cold hotdogs, and eat left over fish cold....:doh:

MITCHELL 03-06-2018 04:52 AM

Choose what works best for you....
 
Double check your load....don't leave anything that can vibrate loose....nothing better than a good rope for tying off...your a fisherman knots shouldn't be a problem if so lean quick you don't want to kill somebody. Like a guy on a motorcycle.

Denis_Ruso 03-06-2018 07:54 AM

I have a 4runner myself, and I have to say that anything outside of a pickup truck is not that ideal for hauling a kayak. Overhead lifting a decent ocean kayak comes with challenges. It limits what kind of kayak you can have, you sure as hell aren't putting a PA up there. To top it, lifting overhead you get tons of sand and saltwater all over the car and have to have all kinds of roof rack additions. To top it you're risking dinging the car. Also it's not ideally aerodynamic for long road trips to have kayaks on the roof.

But it's sure damn nice to have all that interior room for stuff, locking things away and even sleeping in when camping.

Pickup truck, a simple T bar and you're good to haul 2 kayaks. No overhead lifting, all the gear can be stored in the bed and keep all the sand as well. Easy to 1 man it.

cris 03-06-2018 08:04 AM

I lift a Hobie Oasis which has a fitted hull weight of 93 lbs onto my car by myself when I fish solo. I have a Subaru Outback which is lower than the 4Runner and I usually slide it up the back over a mat. It also has AWD which has been great so far and I haven't been stuck yet. It does have a 2700lb tow limit and 200lb tongue weight with the H4 engine which means you can barely haul anything.

MITCHELL 03-06-2018 09:22 AM

I load my kayak from either side....i could be locked in bumper to bumper....
 
Parking and still get my kayak on and off....i have pvc rollers on both sides of my rack. And ratchet straps that go through the cab,my kayak never touches my car. I use a truck for long hauls.

Baja_Traveler 03-06-2018 10:17 AM

Up, Down, Left, Right, Dead up the Center - it's all worked for me fine since 2001. 335,000 miles and day after tomorrow heading back down to San Ignacio Lagoon again. Yes - it's a diesel. Whatever you get - get the 8 foot bed and with the tailgate down my PA14 (or My Solo Skiff) only over hangs three and a half feet, so no further contraptions required other than a red flag.

http://a4.pbase.com/g10/85/360685/2/...7.lsQAJO83.jpg

MITCHELL 03-06-2018 12:58 PM

Yep....
 
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Long bed tailgate down.....

ProfessorLongArms 03-06-2018 01:40 PM

First up, thanks for the input and the snark :)
Kind of a simplistic thread, but I appreciate the ideas.

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Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 290770)
You have a snug top, type cover correct? If so take it off and put a rack on it. Sounds like you already have a great vehicle for hauling your kayak around.

With that said, a newer 4 runner would be nice...

Yeah... on that one, I like being able to load up my truck and lock it the night before since I'm in the truck at 4am trying not to wake the wife. Been playing with a few ideas on rod storage (though I could just leave them in the house and carry them out the door with me)

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Originally Posted by YakDout (Post 290779)
Im confused. You’re currently driving a Tacoma but you are looking at Tacoma’s? Are you simply looking for a 4 wheel drive vehicle? If you like the Tacoma’s, Ditch your two wheel drive truck and buy a 4x4 Tacoma. Great baja vehicle.

Yeah this is probably where I'm headed. I've put 60k miles on this tacoma and it's damn near bulletproof.

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Originally Posted by monstahfish (Post 290842)
I'd caution against the xterra for roof height alone. I had one for a few years and it did everything I ever asked of it, but getting the yak on the roof was a pain. I drive a 2011 4wd ford escape and it's been low maintenance tows small and medium trailers fairly well, has easily roamed the beach at Makoville, even surprised people by how well it did on the sand and taken me into moderately difficult trails in the sierras and east coast. Ground clearance becomes an issue at some point though.

Good to know on the Escape for offroad. I've long been wary of American made cars, but I loved my Mazda version (Tribute) before it was totalled in an accident.

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Originally Posted by Denis_Ruso (Post 290850)
I have a 4runner myself, and I have to say that anything outside of a pickup truck is not that ideal for hauling a kayak. Overhead lifting a decent ocean kayak comes with challenges. It limits what kind of kayak you can have, you sure as hell aren't putting a PA up there. To top it, lifting overhead you get tons of sand and saltwater all over the car and have to have all kinds of roof rack additions. To top it you're risking dinging the car. Also it's not ideally aerodynamic for long road trips to have kayaks on the roof.

But it's sure damn nice to have all that interior room for stuff, locking things away and even sleeping in when camping.

Pickup truck, a simple T bar and you're good to haul 2 kayaks. No overhead lifting, all the gear can be stored in the bed and keep all the sand as well. Easy to 1 man it.

Also good to know. One thing I noted when looking at 4runners is how far back the roof bars sit because of the sunroof. I don't mind throwing my yak on the roof and I'll likely go no bigger than my Outback.... But I'm young yet :) You make a good point about Saltwater though... I remember seeing Jim Sammons strongly endorse trailering because there's *no* getting around eventual body rust from throwing a kayak on the roof all the time.

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Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler (Post 290857)
Up, Down, Left, Right, Dead up the Center - it's all worked for me fine since 2001. 335,000 miles and day after tomorrow heading back down to San Ignacio Lagoon again. Yes - it's a diesel. Whatever you get - get the 8 foot bed and with the tailgate down my PA14 (or My Solo Skiff) only over hangs three and a half feet, so no further contraptions required other than a red flag.

http://a4.pbase.com/g10/85/360685/2/...7.lsQAJO83.jpg

Yeah.... I might have gotten a bit of drool on your truck down in Baja looking at all of your customization :) Problem with the current truck is that it sits so low, the bed extender scrubs super easy.

monstahfish 03-07-2018 07:14 AM

Whatever you do, no sun roofs! They will get ruined by salt and sand, then it will leak and ruin the head liner and cause rust and they're a pain to repair. When I bought my car the guy kept trying to give me one with a sun roof after I explained why I didn't want one. I just started walking away, then he listened.

YakDout 03-07-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms (Post 290870)
First up, thanks for the input and the snark :)

Kind of a simplistic thread, but I appreciate the ideas.







Yeah... on that one, I like being able to load up my truck and lock it the night before since I'm in the truck at 4am trying not to wake the wife. Been playing with a few ideas on rod storage (though I could just leave them in the house and carry them out the door with me)







Yeah this is probably where I'm headed. I've put 60k miles on this tacoma and it's damn near bulletproof.







Good to know on the Escape for offroad. I've long been wary of American made cars, but I loved my Mazda version (Tribute) before it was totalled in an accident.







Also good to know. One thing I noted when looking at 4runners is how far back the roof bars sit because of the sunroof. I don't mind throwing my yak on the roof and I'll likely go no bigger than my Outback.... But I'm young yet :) You make a good point about Saltwater though... I remember seeing Jim Sammons strongly endorse trailering because there's *no* getting around eventual body rust from throwing a kayak on the roof all the time.







Yeah.... I might have gotten a bit of drool on your truck down in Baja looking at all of your customization :) Problem with the current truck is that it sits so low, the bed extender scrubs super easy.



I like baja travelers style. This is how I roll to baja. Diesel all the way

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goldenglory18 03-12-2018 01:27 PM

I've had a few "yak haulers" in my day. All topped/roof racked, and they have all worked well enough....

Most Fun: 2011 Jeep Wrangler. That pig could get me ANYWHERE, it was just a shit on the highway. That's what happens when engineers put a minivan drive train in a tin can body.

Cheapest: 2001 Chevy Blazer. Maintained this thing will run forever. Only sold it as I had funds for a newer car

Nicest: 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee. Current ride and sooooooo comfortable. Almost too nice to use as a yak hauler. The only thing I wished it had is a 4WD, but so far, not needed.

Most Dependable: 2008 Xterra. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned. If it wasnt for the mandatory 100k service that we couldnt afford at the time, I might still have that truck. I echo what was said above, that roof line is WAY up there. That weird stadium seating is comfy inside, but for topping anything its a chore. I needed to use a step stool for that first "handle grab" each time...

Next Yak ride for GG18: Either a current generation 4Runner, or upgrade the Jeep GC to a 2016 w/4WD.

Heavilyass 07-23-2021 12:27 PM

<style type="text/css">td {border: 1px solid #ccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}</style>The Wrangler is the most suitable car for me. I'd show it to you now, but it's parked in another area.
I had to part with it for a while because my insurance expired. If I had found out about
<style type="text/css">td {border: 1px solid #ccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}</style>https://www.moneyexpert.com/car-insurance/family-car-insurance/ earlier, I would have definitely dealt with the issue.
Have you ever had a situation like this happen to you? It's so frustrating because it feels like a part of you has been taken away.
In all seriousness, you should check all documents and change them on time, so you don't have problems with that later on.

davidpraty 07-24-2021 12:38 PM

I cartop my hobie on my 2013 prius. The low roof makes it so much easier than my wifes larger CRV. Can also fit 10ft rods in it no problem and it gets 45mpg.

If youre planning on cartopping it I totally reccomend a lower roof like a wagon or hatchback.


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