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Dillon207 08-08-2017 05:33 PM

Finding bait without a fish finder
 
Wonder if anyone could give some assistance on making bait without a fish finder. I'm new and headed out tomorrow for a first run with the new kayak. I don't have a fish finder yet and am curious what guys without them do to find bait? Any help would be greatly appreciated.


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jorluivil 08-08-2017 05:34 PM

Just drag you sabiki behind your kayak, if there's bait it'll hit the sabiki. Whenever I have trouble finding bait that exactly what I do.

jrip 08-08-2017 05:36 PM

Bait and wait

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Dillon207 08-08-2017 05:45 PM

Thanks, guess you just drop the sabiki and paddle around for a bit.


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GTboosted 08-08-2017 05:51 PM

Yup. I tip it with squid. If there is bait they will find it.

summers in kuwait 08-08-2017 05:55 PM

Prior to having a fish finder I would:

Tip my sabiki with squid
Troll my sabiki behind the kayak
Look for bait on the surface
Chum
Hug the kelp line, casting my sabiki

FullFlavorPike 08-08-2017 07:17 PM

watch for birds eating bait and baits puddling at the surface

Dillon207 08-08-2017 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GTboosted (Post 284071)
Yup. I tip it with squid. If there is bait they will find it.



Do you put squid on every hook?


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GTboosted 08-08-2017 08:09 PM

Yes. I cut it into small squares. I noticed that they will often bite the squid tipped hooks first so I started adding it to all.

You can cut it at home and put it in a baggie but I always forget and end up having to cut them in my hatch. Lol

Ideally you should buy a few squids at an asian market and cut them and freeze them in separate baggies and take one out when needed.

Saba Slayer 08-09-2017 06:28 AM

best advice
 
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Originally Posted by FullFlavorPike (Post 284075)
watch for birds eating bait and baits puddling at the surface

This is the best advise for finding bait without a sonar unit...!

Murray 08-09-2017 06:33 AM

Probably best to have only 3 hooks on your ganion. Too many hooks makes for a real mess when you find bait that wants to bite. Also dangerous when trying to deal with 6 macs .....hooks flying everywhere.

FullFlavorPike 08-09-2017 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Saba Slayer (Post 284095)
This is the best advise for finding bait without a sonar unit...!

Some days this is the only way I get bait, even with sonar, when the baits are on the run.

Dillon207 08-09-2017 07:26 AM

This forum is great!!! Appreciate all the advise. Getting ready to launch into some rather big surf. Hopefully I don't have to post a lost all my gear story in about 5 minutes. Again thank you all for the advise.


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Southman 08-09-2017 07:41 AM

Consider pinching down the barbs on your sabiki hooks. Inevitably, sooner or later one of the hooks will find your fingers. They're sharp little bastards and much easier to get out without the barb. Plus, the bait comes off much easier.
Just a thought. Good luck out there.

taggermike 08-10-2017 09:00 AM

Of course keep your eyes scanning for signs of bait. But you can ask some one with a meter near you if you can shadow them. Doesn't hurt to ask. I'd nevervdo this for fish or structure. But some times a couple guys on a bait spot can hokdca school under them.

FullFlavorPike 08-10-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by taggermike (Post 284181)
Of course keep your eyes scanning for signs of bait. But you can ask some one with a meter near you if you can shadow them. Doesn't hurt to ask. I'd nevervdo this for fish or structure. But some times a couple guys on a bait spot can hokdca school under them.

Bro. There's only like 5,000 mackerel down there. You gotta keep the super secret bait honey hole quiet when you're on top if it ;)


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