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mwm 07-29-2010 06:08 PM

What goes around ...
 
Looks like the "bought" vote for the MLPA recommendation on the Fish and Game commission is out. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy...except maybe Meg. Hopefully someone that respects anglers rights will get appointed in his place.

http://www.sacbee.com/2010/07/29/292...ossed-off.html

dsafety 07-29-2010 08:57 PM

I don't know where to start with my reaction to reading this article. Wow. If I ever had the thought that we remain a country "of the people, by the people, for the people", I will probably need to rethink my opinion. The new mantra should be "of the money, by the money, for the money".

While I tentatively take some hope that a purchased politician who sides against us is out of the picture, I cannot jump for joy until I know who will fill his shoes. This whole process sucks.

The older I get, the more disillusioned I become. Greed and hardball politics seem to control everything. I long for the day when the words spoken by Mr. Lincoln many years ago will again define our way of life.

Bob

Gino 07-29-2010 11:09 PM

Greed and harball persuastions is the nature of the beast that is politics. nothing ever goes without a check handed here... a check handed over there... it is what it is. Thats why less of it, is always better.

But besides all that, Good Benninghoven is gone, Hip hip Hurray! The guy who worte this article really sound slike a Crybaby. making Benninghiven out to be a "martyr" oh come on. The same Enviormental special intrest play the same game, but becuase they are out to save the sea turtles and the fat lazy seals, thier lobbying and corruption is just!

But fisherman put together money form the collective, and from related buisness to stop the closures, and oppose Benninghoven, and were the bad guys, As if the MLPA itself isnt a child of the same special intrest from the enviormental left.

In Sacramento when they run out of toilet paper, they use the Bee

j mo 07-30-2010 06:07 AM

Thanks for passing on the article. I love the "objectivity" of the author of the article, poor Don B. a tireless beurocrat ....:rolleyes:

"The effort generated hundreds of e-mails to the state Senate opposing him":luxhello: wow it actually worked!




roadx 07-30-2010 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j mo (Post 61930)
Thanks for passing on the article. I love the "objectivity" of the author of the article....:rolleyes:

"The effort generated hundreds of e-mails to the state Senate opposing him":luxhello: wow it actually worked!




i would like to think so, it's great to see results so quickly :luxhello:

mwm 07-30-2010 07:25 AM

This does reinforce the message that all those email and letters sent during the MLPA campaign were not in vain. This is a political process and if you don't voice your opinion, even if you think it is pointless to do so, you are sealing your own fate.

kurt 07-30-2010 07:52 AM

Now Beninghoven can nod off at home instead of the meetings. Hopefully his replacement won't be worse.

Billy V 07-30-2010 09:45 PM

I sent my e mail requesting that he Not be confirmed.

This should serve as notice ! Don't give up the Fight.

Willy 07-31-2010 09:50 AM

Gawd.
Just reading the article title and the first sentence was enough to make me throw up in my mouth.

That was a perfect example of amateurish, high school quality journalism. At least the author didn't have any bias. :rolleyes:

Think about it this way, perhaps the very things that make our broken system dysfunctional may keep the MLPA process frozen for a good amount of time.
I still find it appalling that in the midst of a massive budget crisis this process is even being considered. What a huge waste of time and money.

Bleh!

Willy

dgax65 07-31-2010 03:21 PM

That was an editorial, so it doesn't have to be objective. What it does show is the institutional bias towards the environmental movement. I saw lots of grassroots work against the MLPA. Many hard-working fishermen taking time off from their jobs to have their voices heard. That's not astroturfing. Maybe the douchebag who wrote that piece of garbage should have looked more closely at the pro-MLPA crowd. Clueless school kids bussed in to act as props, paid environmental activists and lawyers who live off of enviro-lawsuits is what he would have seen if he had opened his damn eyes. The Packard Foundation buys their own private government agency and that is OK for this tool, but we get help from a lobbying group and its astroturfing? F**k him.

Gino 07-31-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgax65 (Post 61973)
That was an editorial, so it doesn't have to be objective. What it does show is the institutional bias towards the environmental movement. I saw lots of grassroots work against the MLPA. Many hard-working fishermen taking time off from their jobs to have their voices heard. That's not astroturfing. Maybe the douchebag who wrote that piece of garbage should have looked more closely at the pro-MLPA crowd. Clueless school kids bussed in to act as props, paid environmental activists and lawyers who live off of enviro-lawsuits is what he would have seen if he had opened his damn eyes. The Packard Foundation buys their own private government agency and that is OK for this tool, but we get help from a lobbying group and its astroturfing? F**k him.

well said! This is obviously a 1 sided article. Nothing new in that newspaper these days.

tagyak 08-12-2010 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgax65 (Post 61973)
That was an editorial, so it doesn't have to be objective. What it does show is the institutional bias towards the environmental movement. I saw lots of grassroots work against the MLPA. Many hard-working fishermen taking time off from their jobs to have their voices heard. That's not astroturfing. Maybe the douchebag who wrote that piece of garbage should have looked more closely at the pro-MLPA crowd. Clueless school kids bussed in to act as props, paid environmental activists and lawyers who live off of enviro-lawsuits is what he would have seen if he had opened his damn eyes. The Packard Foundation buys their own private government agency and that is OK for this tool, but we get help from a lobbying group and its astroturfing? F**k him.

dgax65, well said, love the last part F**K him. LOL:luxhello:


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