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MLPA ROLL CALL: Saddle up! Dec 15, Final Meeting. Be there!

What a long, hard road! It ends in just two weeks in Santa Barbara, Dec 15, 9 am at the Hotel Mar Monte on 1111 East Cabrillo Blvd.

Yes, it's another stick in the eye for the working man, but that's nothing new for this wretched 'process.'

We've come so far together. The enviros hate us for keeping their greedy hands off every inch of La Jolla. We have to see this through, so we can call them on any last second dirty tricks.

FINISH STRONG

The PSO / UASC / SAC attorneys are coming, with a stern message for the Fish and Game Commission. The state didn't appeal that public records act lawsuit Bob Fletcher won. This thing isn't going to end on Dec 15, even if Julie Packard, Meg Caldwell, the Deal the Bay and Coaststealer people have 3 yes votes in the bag. Come see for yourself.

We need to protect what we've fought for in La Jolla, we need to support the common-sense commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists the free divers. They've stood by us.

More info as the meeting approaches. Stand up for your way of life; stand up for your sport.

ROLL CALL
1. Paul Lebowitz

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAL (Post 70226)

We've come so far together. The enviros hate us for keeping their greedy hands off every inch of La Jolla. We have to see this through, so we can call them on any last second dirty tricks...
The PSO / UASC / SAC attorneys are coming, with a stern message for the Fish and Game Commission. The state didn't appeal that public records act lawsuit Bob Fletcher won. This thing isn't going to end on Dec 15, even if Julie Packard, Meg Caldwell, the Deal the Bay and Coaststealer people have 3 yes votes in the bag. Come see for yourself.
We need to protect what we've fought for in La Jolla, we need to support the common-sense commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists the free divers. They've stood by us.

ROLL CALL
1. Paul Lebowitz
2. Martin
3. Clay (possibly, have to check schedule)

I hope I get a chance to have a word or two with Ken..:D

This from Keep America Fishing...forward to friends, family, etc...let's inundate the DFG...

Process to Close Sportfishing in California Nearing Critical Final Vote
Send in your comments to the Fish and Game Commission prior to the December 15-16 meeting asking for the suspension of the South Coast implementation process

The Situation
During its upcoming meeting, the California Fish and Game Commission could vote to enclose approximately 15 percent of southern California’s coastal waters within marine protected areas (MPAs), including many of the most popular fishing spots, under the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) process. This critical vote comes at a time when concerns about the MLPA process continue to escalate. A recent court ruling validates long-held concerns about the secretive ways in which the groups implementing the MLPA have been making decisions. The meeting is being held December 15-16, in Santa Barbara .

The MLPA process has been plagued by numerous issues which have not been resolved, including:

The lack of a transparent and open decision making process
Inadequate resources for enforcement and biological monitoring
A process that side-steps a science-based fisheries management approach that clearly identifies the threats to California ’s marine environment

Touted as “ecosystem protection,” the MLPA only targets recreational fishing and its significant economic contributions to California’s economy all the while ignoring the litany of significant threats to California’s oceans, such as sewage outfalls and storm water runoff, agricultural chemicals and other pollutants, ocean acidification, ocean side development and once-through cooling.

The Department of Fish and Game estimates that the MPA regulations will cost California ’s taxpayers $40 million annually for enforcement and biological monitoring – resources that the state simply does not have. With a current deficit of $26 billion, California cannot afford to adopt costly measures that will only work to limit recreational fishing access which provides employment for 20,000 Californians.

How You Can Help
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Given the numerous serious concerns surrounding the process, please send a message to the California Fish and Game Commission urging them to suspend the South Coast MLPA implementation.

Visit www.KeepAmericaFishing.org for more information on the MLPA.

Thank you for doing your part to help KeepAmericaFishing!

I'll be there, thanks for the heads up.

Anyone want to car pool? Only need one car so far....

Two replies. Come on BWE, we're better than this.

Even if most of you can't make it between the holidays and the miserably inconvenient time and location, there should at least be activity on this thread.

As a community, we sacrificed much to hang onto a big chunk of La Jolla. That work isn't quite finished.

At the very least, send in those letters, and if you're the religious type, maybe you better start praying. With this limp showing, we're going to need divine intervention to hold the line.

Man up! This silent act is weak.

Letter sent. No more vacation days or sick days, so I doubt I'll make this one. But I'll try.

Thanks Kurt. Who's next!

Letter sent and I will do my best to get there. May need to share a ride

I used all my time for the other meetings, my current cold :rolleyes:, and the birth of my 2nd baby a couple months ago. Trying hard to sound like I am not making too many excuses, but I am tapped out. I'll try for a hail mary, but anyone else, that can make it, should roll. It is a long drive, but this is it... thanks for those that can attend, and fight us! :you_rock:

sent,..... get yours in tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mash Up The MLPA!

Thanks guys! Keep those letter rolling...

Not sure if I can make it....Letter sent, will see what I can do.

:jig:cowboybill

Gonna do my best to get to another wonderful
meeting
I miss those Eco freaks painting us as the bad guys
I miss the commisioners rolling their eyes when we make a valid point
I miss Mr. IamnotsuchaWiseman being passive aggressive and trying to pay back real men (and women) for the treatment he recieved on the playground has a child
I miss the wackos from La Goona preaching about the need to close their entire coastline from those terible fishermen and spearos
I miss witnessing innocent children being indoctrinated by panty wearing men and unshaven women, in the name of "education "
I miss waiting 10 hours to speak for 1 minute
I miss some lite in the loafer kook telling Charles V. To shut up
I miss seeing Buttchaser use a legit big word.... And a bunch of sissys crying foul because they never heard the word used before
I miss sitting a room full of people, many of whom need a swift hard kick in the ass... And having to fight the urge to deliver that kick... Even though it really seems like the right thing to do .

I really miss all the time, money and effort put in by SO FEW
and then listening to other guys whine and complain about what they have done before or how they feel unwelcome at the meetings...

Yep
I miss so much about these puke inducing meetings

so I will do my best to get to this one
"the last one"

Big thanks to Chris, Tyler , Billy and Paul for motivating guys from San Diego,
we would have been fugged beyond belief it wasn't for all your hard work

and to all the new faces here at BWE
step up boyz, pay some dues
these meetings can create memories of a life time for you!

And you never know... You may just become part of some secret "code group" that shares precious info about big fish fishing...

My schedule in the past hasent permitted me to make the last meeting and I dont see how I can help but I will be at this one. I was at the carlsbad meeting and it seemed like such a cluster###

But I dont see how any of us can bitch about it if we dont make a final show of support for these guys who have been so comitted to preserving our rights.
Its a drive yes, but SB is also a nice place to have to drive to. Thank god it aint in Sacramento.
I will be at this one Paul, for at least the day. Thank you for all you have done for the rest of us.
Chris Lewis

letter sent thank you

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman (Post 70265)

This from Keep America Fishing...forward to friends, family, etc...let's inundate the DFG...

Process to Close Sportfishing in California Nearing Critical Final Vote

Send in your comments to the Fish and Game Commission prior to the December 15-16 meeting asking for the suspension of the South Coast implementation process

The lack of a transparent and open decision making process
Inadequate resources for enforcement and biological monitoring
A process that side-steps a science-based fisheries management approach that clearly identifies the threats to California ’s marine environment

Touted as “ecosystem protection,” the MLPA only targets recreational fishing and its significant economic contributions to California’s economy all the while ignoring the litany of significant threats to California’s oceans, such as sewage outfalls and storm water runoff, agricultural chemicals and other pollutants, ocean acidification, ocean side development and once-through cooling.

The Department of Fish and Game estimates that the MPA regulations will cost California ’s taxpayers $40 million annually for enforcement and biological monitoring – resources that the state simply does not have. With a current deficit of $26 billion, California cannot afford to adopt costly measures that will only work to limit recreational fishing access which provides employment for 20,000 Californians.

How You Can Help
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Given the numerous serious concerns surrounding the process, please send a message to the California Fish and Game Commission urging them to suspend the South Coast MLPA implementation.

Visit www.KeepAmericaFishing.org for more information on the MLPA.

Thank you for doing your part to help KeepAmericaFishing!

Modified letter sent. Going to try to make it, but my work schedule is not looking good. That's the reason these MLPA dog and pony shows are scheduled for weekdays - the full time paid activists and bussed in kids don't feel any economic pain by attending, anyone with a regular job does. It's all part of the corrupt MLPA process.

I'm going to make every effort to make this meeting.

Sent...I wish I could make this one...ill try and make it up.

Letter sent for each of us

Hey Paul,

We won't be able to take the trip up north, but the letter has been sent for each of us. Kudos to all those who make the trip on behalf of all of us.

To reiterate, because I didn't find the link until going to Tman's 2nd post, the link is:

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/63...ction_KEY=2847

It is so simple to do. You should be ashamed to call yourself a fisherman/woman, if you don't at least spend 30 seconds to send this letter.

I'm sending this link to everyone in my address book, regardless of whether they are a fisherman/woman. If any follow-up with the letter, that's more ammo for us.

I'm way too pissed and disgusted to say anything...

- Not at any of you guys - at the whole fkn situation.

My schedule sucks but I'll be there.

We'll put in a word to make sure they move the Scripps MPA boundary to address that pier issue. We don't dive there much (too sandy/sharky) but we're interested in keeping it open as much as possible (so you guys can kayakfish away from our diving area, J/K).

For those who can make it, thank you and we spearos will see you there again.

Cheers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellcon (Post 70462)

....and then listening to other guys whine and complain about what they have done before or how they feel unwelcome at the meetings....

Whoa.... Now that's the way to encourage people to go!!! :you_rock:

Reverse psychology right! Very clever. Why don't you just threaten to beat up everyone that shows up that you do not like, that should bring a ton of fisherman to the meeting.:sifone:
.

That said: To EVERYONE!!!.... like Paul said: "We need to protect what we've fought for, we need to support commissioner Dan Richards, and we need to stand with our fellow watermen and conservationists."

I don't care who you are, or what you have done in the past: Truer words could not be spoken!!!

Though at this point the maps are probably as settled as if they are drawn in stone (at least as far as the fisherman are concerned), the envoros are still pushing for more. This is still our last chance to get our voices heard, and everyone should attend if possible, if for no reason to counterbalance all the other idiots who will definitely be there to the detriment of our cause.

Stand up for your way of life; stand up for your sport. Make your voice heard one more time!!!

Jim

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I sent in my message through keepamericafishing with a few select revisions. Thank you to those who are making the trip up to do battle with the special interest groups and santa barbarians!

Paul,

In addition to sending the link for the letter to everyone in my address book, I also posted the link on facebook with a request for additional letters/support for all who fish, or love someone they know fishes. Maybe others will do the same so we can get all the support we can before this meeting. Giving people the actual link makes it easy for them to do.

I know my efforts have resulted in at least one extra letter being sent so far. That is better than none, and I expect more support after a couple of days.

Again, for simplification, the link is:

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/63...ction_KEY=2847

...send it out, everyone.

Aaron

I can not bus any of my students into something like this. They are busy learning in school.

I did however provide some information about this crisis to my students. To date I have 5 confirmed letters sent by my kids/ and or their parents.

I regularly talk to my kids about my (and their) fishing adventures. In my opinion, MOST young people (fifth grade) liked fishing or would like to try it.

Suggestion: Talk to people at your workplace about what is going on, you will be surprised about how many people support fishing/ hunting rights.

Question?
Has there ever been an afternoon or weekend session/ meeting? If not has that issue been brought up?

It's encouraging to see some action in this thread. Thanks for those who've sent letters or stepped up big by asking friends and family to do so too. The letter response is very good so far. Please pile on!

We need more people at the meeting. I'm asking you to dig deep, and find a way to get there even if you can't stay all day. We need more people to cede time. For those new to this deal, you normally get one minute to say what you have to say. If several other people (often 10) donate their time, you get more.

If you can make the trip and sacrifice your time, you'll be very pleased with its destination. Very. Contact me directly if you need more info. I'm not going to post it in the open.

I have room for two in my truck on the 15th. The downside is you'll be stuck up there all day, through the bitter end. On the other hand, there's bound to be drowning of sorrows / celebration of points scored with a couple of solid old-school kayak anglers from up north.

^During a Blue Ribbon Task Force / Stakeholder phase there was one evening meeting, and it was heavily attended by the fishing public, most of whom work for a living. That meeting went to 1 am! I remember watching as RSG reps from the enviro side snuck away or ducked out early. That one I enjoyed to the very end. The MLPA staff didn't schedule another for obvious reasons.

The Fish and Game Commission NEVER holds meetings outside business hours.

Paul, I haven't had any response to my offer for car pooling so if you don't mind I'll ride with you.

Some spearos with SUVs will be at the San Diego car pool lot.

I-5 and Gilman Dr Park & Ride (8002 Gilman Drive, San Diego, CA) at 5AM.

We want to fill up the vehicles with fishermen/spearos to go to the meeting. Let's finish strong guys.

P.S. King Harbor is the location for car pool for LA. So I was told. Details to come.

I already responded on Baytubers. I will be attending.

You got it Fishionado. Any more takers? One seat left.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellcon (Post 70508)

Bump
:cheers1:

Hey Don, this is an anchored thread, just in case you didn't notice.

Letter sent.

I'm new to this whole process. How long does it take? What should I expect? I'm looking at taking the day off of work, but I would like to know how I should plan my day (I gotta give the wifey some kind of agenda). I'm from Los Angeles....thanks.

Letter sent and the link and a brief summary of the issues put on FB...

Markus