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ryan111 08-25-2010 03:42 PM

lobster season
 
i cant wait until :lobster: season anyone els doing it this year how do you guys do it :lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobs ter::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster:: lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobst er::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::l obster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobste r::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lobster::lo bster::lobster::lobster::lobster:

old_rookie 08-25-2010 07:58 PM

I plan on it. Wife is eager for me to go out and do it.
From what I have found it, night time is when to place your nets. You can have up to 5 nets on your yak. That's all I know so far - I do wonder:
how long to let the nets soak?
how many can you catch?
Is night time the only time to catch them?

PB fisher 08-25-2010 08:33 PM

yes yes I only went buggin' a few times last year and missed out. Will be ready this season.

:lobster::lobster:

roadx 08-25-2010 09:35 PM

i have never used a kayak for lobster hooping always off a boat, it's tough work and can imagine that off a kayak is even more strenuous. i need to figured out some kind of pulley system.


couple things needed

a Spiny Lobster Report Card is required $8.40 along with fishing license

limit is the seven

minimum size Three and one fourth inches

lobsters must be kept whole

five nets max per person ten per boat


curious if anyone has tried salmon heads or mackerel smeared with uni butter ???
i might try it

Riskey Water 08-26-2010 08:35 AM

MMMMMM mackeral smeared with uni butter ,I'll have to try the the next time I go to the sushi bar ,spanish mackeral ofcourse

Willy 08-26-2010 09:02 AM

Guys,
Search the threads of this forum for lobstering info.
Most of the old salts on here go buggin', some with great success.
There have been jewels of knowledge dropped in various threads over the years.
Do your homework, it's worth it.

Some basics:
Yes go at dark that's when the bugs feed.
Drop your nets on flat ground next to structure, they leave the structure to scavenge for food. Structure could be anything; rocks, jetties, piers, etc.
Bait needs to be anything stinky and or oily. It needs to attract them. Just think about what they eat, fallen, dead fish. Mackerel, Bonito, Salmon heads, etc.
A lot of guys buy a bunch of cheap cans of cat food, and punch holes in them to add a chum slick in the water. They will eat just about anything.

Be careful!!! It's dangerous around structure at night. Don't assume people will see you. Get the proper reflective equipment for you, your gear and your boat.

When you buy nets, upgrade the buoys immediately to the larger bullet shaped ones, Squidco sells them for under $5 each. It's worth the investment, you will lose less of your gear in the current, kelp, dark etc.

There are pulley systems available, some even snap right onto your Ram Ball.
Buoy lighting is important, they will vanish in the dark, even if you think you know where they are. There are a million ways to light a buoy, that's where you'll need to do some research. Check the BloodyDecks board as well, they have some creative lighting/bugging techniques that can translate to yak buggin.

Make sure you're legal. The DFG loves lobster season, and you WILL be checked at some point.

Did I mention BE CAREFUL?!!!!

That should get you started.

Willy

ryan111 08-26-2010 09:15 AM

thanks willy so do you launch at the shores and then where are some good spots

ryan111 08-26-2010 09:22 AM

and how long do you leave it in the water for??

Useful Idiot 08-26-2010 09:33 AM

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flydigital 08-26-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan111 (Post 63368)
and how long do you leave it in the water for??

With a string of 5 nets you can just keep pulling them up in order, reset them, move on to the next, and it ends up about 15-30 minutes between each pull on each net. When they are crawling good you don't want your bait sitting out too long or they will eat it all up and move on. If its slow you may want to soak them longer. Give it a try... you will meet others on the water and learn lots in short order. I would suggest shallower water to start out, maybe near harbor jettys....

Oh, make sure you wrap up your rope to proper length for the depth you are targeting. Don't let a ton of rope hang out on the surface or you will tangle yourself and potentially damage other boat props causing a big safety problem. Try only a couple nets at most to start out, smaller investment (you will lose nets eventually) and easier to manage and learn.

Sherm 08-26-2010 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willy (Post 63364)
Guys,
Search the threads of this forum for lobstering info.
Most of the old salts on here go buggin', some with great success.
There have been jewels of knowledge dropped in various threads over the years.
Do your homework, it's worth it.

Some basics:
Yes go at dark that's when the bugs feed.
Drop your nets on flat ground next to structure, they leave the structure to scavenge for food. Structure could be anything; rocks, jetties, piers, etc.
Bait needs to be anything stinky and or oily. It needs to attract them. Just think about what they eat, fallen, dead fish. Mackerel, Bonito, Salmon heads, etc.
A lot of guys buy a bunch of cheap cans of cat food, and punch holes in them to add a chum slick in the water. They will eat just about anything.

Be careful!!! It's dangerous around structure at night. Don't assume people will see you. Get the proper reflective equipment for you, your gear and your boat.

When you buy nets, upgrade the buoys immediately to the larger bullet shaped ones, Squidco sells them for under $5 each. It's worth the investment, you will lose less of your gear in the current, kelp, dark etc.

There are pulley systems available, some even snap right onto your Ram Ball.
Buoy lighting is important, they will vanish in the dark, even if you think you know where they are. There are a million ways to light a buoy, that's where you'll need to do some research. Check the BloodyDecks board as well, they have some creative lighting/bugging techniques that can translate to yak buggin.

Make sure you're legal. The DFG loves lobster season, and you WILL be checked at some point.

Did I mention BE CAREFUL?!!!!

That should get you started.

Willy


All good advice. Also.....try looking around areas in the day time first. Many times I have found good buggin spots when out fishing. Don't go where everyone else goes. Too many boats at night can get dangerous.

Last season was a good one. I put in 15 trips on the water and got 92 bugs (bug cards are good for something). Not a bad average. Biggest going 5.5 lbs.

Oh ya......pay attention to the weather reports!!!!!! Being out there when the conditions change can SUCK big time.

Good luck

WahooUSMA 08-26-2010 02:03 PM

http://www.getbentsportfishing.com/h...-hoop-netting/

Jzo 08-26-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WahooUSMA (Post 63386)

Wow, Great link! Thanks!

jorluivil 08-27-2010 03:49 AM

Since I went from boater to boater & kayaker to kayaker(sold my boat) it will be my first year hooping from a yak. I had an awesome time hooping from my boat: Catalina & all around Long Beach.

For you newbies, don't take hooping from a yak lightly. It was dangerous hooping from a boat and I can guarantee you it's going to be just as or mroe dangerous hooping from a yak. You tend to look down a lot and this causes you to put your guard down.

I recall hooping in Catalina one night, we had a few nets set just outside some kelp in about 15-20 feet of water. When we brought one of the nets up we had two legals and began the measuring process, little did we know that the current was pushing us into the kelp/rocks.....I managed to back away before we hit but boy was it close.

My partner and I have already discussed some of the details for the upcoming season. First and foremost we covered safety: kayak lighting, reflecting tape & multiple headlamps. We're also looking into building some sort of floating mini barge to transport the nets, something that can be easily towed and easily accessed.

As far as bait goes we've tried it all. Rockfish, mackerel, catfood, rancid chicken, salmon heads, fish guts & squid.......won't give away any secrets away but 2 of the 7 are the ticket. Don't forget to dress warm and by all means be prepared to deal with fog.

Jzo 09-21-2010 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willy (Post 63364)
Be careful!!! It's dangerous around structure at night. Don't assume people will see you. Get the proper reflective equipment for you, your gear and your boat.Willy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 63439)
My partner and I have already discussed some of the details for the upcoming season. First and foremost we covered safety: kayak lighting, reflecting tape & multiple headlamps.

Great advice on safety, thx.

miguelitro 09-21-2010 11:17 AM

One more piece of advice is to carry 2 lobster gauges. If you were to lose your only one it would then be illegal to posses lobster even if legal and measured. you MUST have a gauge in possesion. Oh yeah and be safe, lots of drunks out on ill prepared boats.
Mike

wade 09-21-2010 05:37 PM

its going to be a VERY prosperous Winter 2010 Season, Recreational :lobster:Hoopers..!!
I personally released several hundred just-on clickers...
Im talking about a 1/16 of an inch off, just a season and a half ago...
so if 1 + 1 = 2 & divide by 1 molt, that should be= 3 and 1/4"s, eh?

Heres to a great season guys!!!!!
:cheers1::lobster:
:lobster:
:lobster:
:lobster:
:lobster:
:lobster:(BugZillA!) :drool5:

roadx 09-22-2010 05:03 AM

:cheers1::lobster: trying to get ready but work is getting in the way. luckily im back to my normal work schedule the friday before the season opener.



is there going to be any seminars or lobster gear sales before the opener???

Jzo 09-22-2010 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roadx (Post 65432)
is there going to be any seminars or lobster gear sales before the opener???

Upcoming Hooping Seminars

Sept. 23rd - Thursday at 7pm
Baja Fish Gear
24603 Narbonne Ave.
Lomita, 90717
310-517-9897

Sept. 25th - Saturday at 1pm & 3pm
Sport Chalet
13455 Maxella Ave. #138
Marina Del Rey, CA 90292
310-821-9400

Sept. 26th Sunday at 2:00pm
Jig Stop Tackle
34186 Pacific Coast Highway
Dana Point, 92629
949-496-3555

Sept. 30th - Thursday at 7:00pm
Sav-on Tackle
9917 Orr & Day Rd.
Santa Fe Springs, 90670
562-864-2911

Oct. 16th - Saturday at
Turners

miguelitro 09-22-2010 06:03 AM

a dfg biologist is talking about lobster populations at the san diego free divers meeting on monday at the lj brew house right after happy hour:D


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