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GregAndrew 05-14-2017 08:04 PM

What is green, blue, yellow, red, lumpy and soupy?
 
LJ this weekend. The water on the bottom was dirty green. The water on top was blooming green. The water in the middle was relatively blue.

Red Crabs were abundant on the bottom and generally stratified everywhere between 40 and 60 feet.

Swell was lumpy and bumpy. Solid sets of 4 to 6 footers, but plenty of space between the sets. Of course you would need to be timing the sets to take advantage of the lulls ;).

About the only other thing on the bottom were gear chewing Soupfin Sharks. :banghead:

Saturday saw lots of YT breaking the surface all morning, Sunday saw lots of whitecaps breaking the surface. Unfortunately, I stuck to the camera rig on the bottom and the fish stuck to the surface.

Lots of good Greenies over by the pier on Sat. but a bit on the smaller side. Nice greenies outside the reserve today, but it took a bit to load up.

MITCHELL 05-15-2017 04:40 AM

Thanks for the report
 
I backed out of going Monday to wait for nicer weather this week.....

TJones 05-15-2017 04:46 AM

Been a strange one this year
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 279480)
LJ this weekend. The water on the bottom was dirty green. The water on top was blooming green. The water in the middle was relatively blue.

Red Crabs were abundant on the bottom and generally stratified everywhere between 40 and 60 feet.

Swell was lumpy and bumpy. Solid sets of 4 to 6 footers, but plenty of space between the sets. Of course you would need to be timing the sets to take advantage of the lulls ;).

About the only other thing on the bottom were gear chewing Soupfin Sharks. :banghead:

Saturday saw lots of YT breaking the surface all morning, Sunday saw lots of whitecaps breaking the surface. Unfortunately, I stuck to the camera rig on the bottom and the fish stuck to the surface.

Lots of good Greenies over by the pier on Sat. but a bit on the smaller side. Nice greenies outside the reserve today, but it took a bit to load up.

It's strange how nobody has posted of a wide open bite yet ? Maybe guys are starting to wise up or get tight lip? It's difinitely paid off for guys putting in time. GOOD REPORT.

MITCHELL 05-15-2017 05:29 AM

It doesn't matter to me what's going on in la jolla.....
 
I go when I want to fish if I catch I catch I don't chase wide open bites and I share information with my friends....we all no yellowtail is a year round thing.and good for you if you got more time to fish than others.I have no problem with people unless they violate my civil rights.:D

MITCHELL 05-15-2017 05:52 AM

May the secretory phase.......
 
Come your way:cheers1:

chris138 05-15-2017 03:36 PM

Thanks Greg... Nice seeing you again. Those surface fish are tough to track down in "lumpy" conditions. Some might go so far as to say Saturday was huge and gnarly... especially at the launch. Always nice to have LJ to ourselves.:cheers1:

I'm in awe at your persistence with the downrigger. Probably because Greg knows that any one of those sharks could've easily ended up being a 40# flat fish in his lap...

Those people looking for lessons or tips, you can learn a lot from posts like this. Know your target species, and persist in hunting it. Despite other species caught nearby, despite bad conditions, despite bad reports. Commit yourself completely to your target. So many times I've watched guys fish YT for 3 hours in the early morning and then give up and change tactics, only to have the school blow up at 10am with nobody around. As always... if you hear a report, it's too late.

chris138 05-15-2017 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 279480)
LJ this weekend. The water on the bottom was dirty green. The water on top was blooming green. The water in the middle was relatively blue.

Red Crabs were abundant on the bottom and generally stratified everywhere between 40 and 60 feet.

Think about this info Greg has offered up here. It may not seem like much... but then look at this sonar shot from Saturday. Anyone think that this report wouldn't help you catch a fish?

http://i.imgur.com/FLkastol.png

Bruntoj 05-15-2017 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 279550)
Think about this info Greg has offered up here. It may not seem like much... but then look at this sonar shot from Saturday. Anyone think that this report wouldn't help you catch a fish?



http://i.imgur.com/FLkastol.png



I was a few feet away from Chris138 when he got exclaimed "they're right underneath us now!" and a couple of seconds later got this on my Hook5 sonar
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d87b7329ed.jpg

I swear he's a fish magnet. I've never had such a classic shot on my own fish finder before.


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Sheephead 05-15-2017 07:31 PM

Thanks for the coords :P

Bruntoj 05-15-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sheephead (Post 279553)
Thanks for the coords :P



Ha ha yeah - right where everyone always sits.


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chris138 05-15-2017 10:41 PM

Wow rad sot!!!

TJones 05-16-2017 02:08 AM

No takers?
 
Good share 👍🏾

battleborn 05-16-2017 08:29 AM

Awesome sonor pixs

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goldenglory18 05-16-2017 08:43 AM

Excellent sonar shot!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 279547)
Those people looking for lessons or tips....Know your target species, and persist in hunting it. Despite other species caught nearby, despite bad conditions, despite bad reports. Commit yourself completely to your target.

For anyone that is interested in becoming the best angler possible, this is FANTASTIC advice. This is one thing that sets competitive anglers apart from weekend warriors. Really well said... :cheers1:

chris138 05-16-2017 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TJones (Post 279560)
Good share 👍🏾

Theoretically, there may have been a 30# foamer that ate my flatfall...

chris138 05-16-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruntoj (Post 279554)
Ha ha yeah - right where everyone always sits.


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Looks like you have your settings dialed in!

summers in kuwait 05-16-2017 05:02 PM

Thanks for sharing the informative posts gents! Always a good read and very helpful. :notworthy:

I was out on Sat. Had a late start and didn't get out till 7am. Surf was fun as mentioned. I hugged the kelp coming out and made a mix bag of jack and greenbacks very quickly.

Seeing some of the surface action, I took to flyline and flat falls for most the morning and figured I could cover some ground. I went out west first and then came back in and headed towards the kelp. I paused once at the kelp line, tied on a fresh dropper loop (65lb braid - Alberto knot - 50lb mono - 2/0 Ringed J hook.) and sent down a nice medium greenback First drop down, immediately get hit and the fish is racing to the kelp. I start gaining line and now my flyline gets picked up.. double!

I continue with the fish from below and pull em out of the weeds. Once I grab the other rod, I have the fish for about 2-3 minutes and pops off in the kelp. 40 lb fluro was pretty abraded above hook. Got wet coming in... but always enjoy the time on the water.

I did find a pair of fishing gloves. So PM details and I'd be happy to return them to you.

Here's some video :sifone:

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...pswr1so9x2.jpg

GregAndrew 05-16-2017 06:09 PM

Nice video! Looked like you had that landing if you just trusted your paddle to keep you up. You were in perfect position to slide right in.

katchfish 05-17-2017 03:22 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...sm3dx09sf.jpeg

Well done with the SX!

You might want to try deploying a leg or legs to stabilize your spin.

Squidco for the win!

summers in kuwait 05-17-2017 05:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 279590)
Nice video! Looked like you had that landing if you just trusted your paddle to keep you up. You were in perfect position to slide right in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by katchfish (Post 279594)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...sm3dx09sf.jpeg

Well done with the SX!

You might want to try deploying a leg or legs to stabilize your spin.

Squidco for the win!

Thanks guys! Yeah this was the maiden voyage on my new Revo 16, so still acclimating to the new boat. Some might say not the best day to try out a kayak, but I figured it was a perfect way to test its capabilities.
Cheers.

MITCHELL 05-17-2017 06:42 AM

If you don't take your reels apart to clean and lube.....every so often
 
You forget how to put them back together....

Iceman 05-17-2017 08:13 AM

Lots of good intel here! I am a big fan of dropping a leg over the side..........or 2. :D

chris138 05-17-2017 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by summers in kuwait (Post 279589)
Thanks for sharing the informative posts gents! Always a good read and very helpful. :notworthy:

I was out on Sat. Had a late start and didn't get out till 7am. Surf was fun as mentioned. I hugged the kelp coming out and made a mix bag of jack and greenbacks very quickly.

Seeing some of the surface action, I took to flyline and flat falls for most the morning and figured I could cover some ground. I went out west first and then came back in and headed towards the kelp. I paused once at the kelp line, tied on a fresh dropper loop (65lb braid - Alberto knot - 50lb mono - 2/0 Ringed J hook.) and sent down a nice medium greenback First drop down, immediately get hit and the fish is racing to the kelp. I start gaining line and now my flyline gets picked up.. double!

I continue with the fish from below and pull em out of the weeds. Once I grab the other rod, I have the fish for about 2-3 minutes and pops off in the kelp. 40 lb fluro was pretty abraded above hook. Got wet coming in... but always enjoy the time on the water.

I did find a pair of fishing gloves. So PM details and I'd be happy to return them to you.

Here's some video :sifone:

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...pswr1so9x2.jpg

The video is rad thanks for posting!

Geno Machino 05-17-2017 05:21 PM

Awesome Vid!!

WTG on the patients!!!

Stud job!

:yt::sifone:

Geno

FISH11 05-17-2017 07:31 PM

Congrats on the one you landed, too bad on the other. Looks like you just about had the landing. After 1 year I still can't land my Revo 13 as easy as my Malibu XFactor. I do put my legs over like you did fighting the fish. I do it when fighting a large Yellow and while comming in the surf once I'm in the waves that are breaking. I've found it's the only way I can brace myself to the kayak to have better control. On my XFactor I can just push avainst the foot pegs.

summers in kuwait 05-18-2017 05:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris138 (Post 279633)
The video is rad thanks for posting!

Thanks Chris! I passed you in the morning and we exchanged a wave. Was going to head over, but looked like you were metering. We'll have to coordinate a tuna venture soon!


Quote:

Originally Posted by Geno Machino (Post 279635)
Awesome Vid!!

WTG on the patients!!!

Stud job!

:yt::sifone:

Geno

Right on. Thanks Geno!

Quote:

Originally Posted by FISH11 (Post 279644)
Congrats on the one you landed, too bad on the other. Looks like you just about had the landing. After 1 year I still can't land my Revo 13 as easy as my Malibu XFactor. I do put my legs over like you did fighting the fish. I do it when fighting a large Yellow and while comming in the surf once I'm in the waves that are breaking. I've found it's the only way I can brace myself to the kayak to have better control. On my XFactor I can just push avainst the foot pegs.

Thanks Mark,

Recently coming from a Revo 13 into the 16, I used to only paddle in through the surf, although I know many prefer to pedal, I just couldn't commit to that. I did pretty well on the 13, but had a couple years in that hull, it's def wider than the 16, but I'm sure with a couple more trips on the new boat, I'll be good. But there is always a chance you can flip, especially if the surf is up and close together.
As Greg mentioned, trusting the paddle when bracing is huge. I've personally gained a lot from filming myself. What I did right, wrong, etc, both in the surf and fighting fish.

Cheers!

taggermike 05-18-2017 07:50 AM

Greg, thanks for the excellent report. You camera use offers a unique insight.

I'm with Mitchell. Fish when you want to, or can, and don't follow the "hot bite".
Mike

NICKWORN 05-18-2017 08:05 AM

Telephone cord?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by summers in kuwait (Post 279589)
Thanks for sharing the informative posts gents! Always a good read and very helpful. :notworthy:

I was out on Sat. Had a late start and didn't get out till 7am. Surf was fun as mentioned. I hugged the kelp coming out and made a mix bag of jack and greenbacks very quickly.

Seeing some of the surface action, I took to flyline and flat falls for most the morning and figured I could cover some ground. I went out west first and then came back in and headed towards the kelp. I paused once at the kelp line, tied on a fresh dropper loop (65lb braid - Alberto knot - 50lb mono - 2/0 Ringed J hook.) and sent down a nice medium greenback First drop down, immediately get hit and the fish is racing to the kelp. I start gaining line and now my flyline gets picked up.. double!

I continue with the fish from below and pull em out of the weeds. Once I grab the other rod, I have the fish for about 2-3 minutes and pops off in the kelp. 40 lb fluro was pretty abraded above hook. Got wet coming in... but always enjoy the time on the water.

I did find a pair of fishing gloves. So PM details and I'd be happy to return them to you.

Here's some video :sifone:

http://i1253.photobucket.com/albums/...pswr1so9x2.jpg

I may have to steal that idea for my rod leashes! I currently have the parachute cord with weed eater line through them spiraled from a wooden Dow.

summers in kuwait 05-18-2017 08:57 AM

What up Nick!
 
Yes sir. I first started with the weed eater line method wrapped around a dowel and then hit with a heat gun, but I found over time the material didn't have the best memory. A few years ago, my work got new phones.... so I came up with some cords. Im cheap and I like to tinker. One of these days, Ill upload some of these things to "share your innovations", including my lacrosse stick gaff!

TheBentRod 06-01-2017 06:26 AM

What is green, blue, yellow, red, lumpy and soupy?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GregAndrew (Post 279590)
Nice video! Looked like you had that landing if you just trusted your paddle to keep you up. You were in perfect position to slide right in.



Great video! In my Hobie I always go to the brace also. In my Trident I'll keep the paddle going. Neither always work it's just what I do.

Great report Greg as always!


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