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wiredantz 10-05-2011 10:17 AM

To do a fishing report or not to do a fishing report?
 
This is the question.

Forgot to mention, NO NAMES WILL BE RECORDED AFTER YOU HAVE VOTED

Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report.

I started this poll.

:cheers1:


On this PUBLIC board there are five types of people:


1) Spammers

2) Power Boaters

3) New kayakfisherman who want to know where to fish

4) Elite kayakfisherman who don't want to expose a hot bite

5) Kayakfisherman who dont' care


There are probably more:


Please post your opinions here

YakMedic 10-05-2011 12:25 PM

I say do whatever makes you happy. The naysayers can pound sand on both sides. You can't catch fish if you don't go fishing though.

T Bone 10-05-2011 01:08 PM

when I was a #3 I aspired to become a #4

Over time I became a #5...mostly...

Drake 10-05-2011 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz (Post 96882)

1) Spammers

2) Power Boaters

3) New kayakfisherman who want to know where to fish

4) Elite kayakfisherman who don't want to expose a hot bite

5) Kayakfisherman who dont' care

6: Elite Kayak fisherman, who are willing to share information with those willing to put in the time to do research themselves. (Wade, Stinkymatt, Kevin, Scallywag, Greg Andrews, Steveooo and some others)

PapaDave 10-05-2011 01:51 PM

Put me down as a #5.

tagyak 10-05-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapaDCh (Post 96906)
Put me down as a #5.

xxxxx2 but willing to share info to those who pm me :D

ctfphoto 10-05-2011 02:00 PM

I'm a number 3 newbie who could care less like in number 5.

I just like to fish and lobster and I always catch something and all I know is that this is super fun and very addicting, just ask my wife on the latter.

THE DARKHORSE 10-05-2011 02:15 PM

Could someone please pass the Popcorn---thanks.
 
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I'll stay out of this one; and, anyone of these threads for the remainder of time.

Perhaps, someone more computer literate than myself (which would include just about everyone on this board), could dig up the other hundred-or-so, ridiculous, silly, threads that got out of control---about this exact same subject!

Like I said, I'm not the best with search engines and such, but below I've posted a link to, one, of God knows how many, threads that require two glasses of wine to finish.

Speaking of, if you haven't had the pleasure of reading through a few of these, a bucket of single malt Scotch, small batch Bourbon, half bottle of wine or your favorite 40 oz is mandatory to read this. Better yet, make it a double. I don't care if you don't drink, trust me---mandatory!

Sit back, take your shoes off and enjoy! :biggrinjester:


http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=3020

jorluivil 10-05-2011 02:16 PM

To each his own.

Unless you're sharing information about the 'hot bite' with someone who can get out right then and there it really doesn't matter who you share it with. Some of us have families, bad shoulders, no money, jobs(graveyard in my case) and that awful honey-do-list. Look at the every post, look at who's catching the fish on a regular basis, its the yakkers that can get out right there and then, not those(like me) that live 100miles from the hot bite. As for me, I go when I can regardless of whether or not there is a hot bite. I have three wsb this year and countless hali's....still waiting for that YT, it'll come and I'm sure it'll come when I least expect it and that isn't during the 'hot bite'.

again, to each his own

YakMedic 10-05-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 96905)
6: Elite Kayak fisherman, who are willing to share information with those willing to put in the time to do research themselves. (Wade, Stinkymatt, Kevin, Scallywag, Greg Andrews, Steveooo and some others)

oh noooo...... stinkymatt was named elite. Time to light up the glow sticks for the rave, he doesn't need his ego to be boosted.:D

Drake 10-05-2011 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 96915)
oh noooo...... stinkymatt was named elite. Time to light up the glow sticks for the rave, he doesn't need his ego to be boosted.:D

Haha I was hoping he was the first to see it. I'm sure a few keyboards will get spit on when people see that =)

jorluivil 10-05-2011 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 96916)
Haha I was hoping he was the first to see it. I'm sure a few keyboards will get spit on when people see that =)


I and a few others fish with him on a regular basis and unfortunately also talk to him on a regular basis. I know that the minute he see's this he's going to print it, show it to his wife, kids, neighbors, his students and I'm also sure he'll frame it. The worst part is that he'll probably vacuum seal a copy of it and show it to us every trip and remind us during every phone conversation.

Striperman1018 10-05-2011 02:49 PM

Post if you feel like posting, dont if you dont. To each his own, it is what it is. I choose not to post more times than not. Not because I dont fish much (is 2 to 3 times a week a lot?) or dont catch fish (I dont have a waterproof camera thus I dont catch fish cuz i cant prove it) but its just not my thing anymore. To be completely honest im here more to look at quality fish porn and enjoy the stories. I dont fish in most the areas you all fish anyway so a timely report on a given area doesnt bother nor make me happy. I just enjoy the reads and try to learn something new every chance I get. Id put myself in the #3 slot without the wanting to know where to fish part, and the #5 slot also cuz who am I to tell you what you can and cant post and when you can and cant do it, nor do I care.

Just my 2 cents...

RK 10-05-2011 02:56 PM

JUST GO FISHING!!!!!!

Thats how you better understand your environment.



Just not in the rain because the rain can hurt you and fish are allergic to the rain........:cool:

jorluivil 10-05-2011 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 21346)
One day even you "knuckle-draggers" who have nothing to offer will figure it out. True, it will take hundreds if not tens of thousands of hours on the water, but it will happen. While this learning-curve is taking place for you, why not sit back and watch a little before getting upset.

I concur:

Roughly 15 trips to LJ
200 miles round trip
Average of 5hrs drive time per trip
average of 6hrs on the water

Call it research, call it luck, call it the hot bite, call it whatever you want
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I'LL CALL IT FISHING

http://i997.photobucket.com/albums/a...EGang007-1.jpg

mtnbykr2 10-05-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 96914)
To each his own.

Unless you're sharing information about the 'hot bite' with someone who can get out right then and there it really doesn't matter who you share it with. Some of us have families, bad shoulders, no money, jobs(graveyard in my case) and that awful honey-do-list. Look at the every post, look at who's catching the fish on a regular basis, its the yakkers that can get out right there and then, not those(like me) that live 100miles from the hot bite. As for me, I go when I can regardless of whether or not there is a hot bite. I have three wsb this year and countless hali's....still waiting for that YT, it'll come and I'm sure it'll come when I least expect it and that isn't during the 'hot bite'.

again, to each his own

I agree x2 let's just fish...and have a good time peace out:reeling: by the way great picture

DESTROYER 10-05-2011 03:26 PM

I missed that thread Josh, thanks for sharing.

I liked Madscientist's quote about never catching a fish from the couch.

Most of you won't see much of me out in LJ fishing for the elusive YT, WSB or Halibut anymore. I will still chase them from time to time but I've change my passion towards Calico Bass, Sand Bass, and Spotted Bay Bass. The thing I know about those species is that they will always be there and for me they are fun to catch.

I voted "No" I don't share or post right away because when I did I got crap for it just like many others. Most of my crap was from phone calls and not on a private forum. Soon, I was no longer in the "Click" because I was known for ruining bites. I had to be a Pioneer and create my own bites which I did from time to time but not all the time. So, moving forward, I now enjoy sharing my fishing days with others and no one cares about BASS. To most of you they are by catch. But to me, a 6 pound Calico is a trophy.

The next time I catch a nice fish in LJ, I will not have a problem posting a picture and a story. I feel I have grown up and those around me will either accept me for who I am or avoid me like the plague.

I've been around this industry for a long time now and I think you should do whatever you feel is good. Have fun and fish! :cheers1:

TL- Matt Moyer

tunaseeker 10-05-2011 04:21 PM

Well said Matt! :)

wiredantz 10-05-2011 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 96915)
oh noooo...... stinkymatt was named elite. Time to light up the glow sticks for the rave, he doesn't need his ego to be boosted.:D

Lol you know matt to well rofl

Lol I luv George comment that he is gooing to laminate it and show it to his kids. Lol

The real funny part is that he is going to rub it in my face everytime we go out!

bus kid 10-05-2011 05:14 PM

I think we should go back to the Revo vs PA thread...:the_finger::the_finger::the_finger:

On my to Costco to get the big box of popcorn.
note to admins / mods, we need a popcorn smiley.

wiredantz 10-05-2011 06:11 PM

Let the POLL CONTINUE:!!!! 425 views and only 26 people voted???



What i have been taught and what i agree on... ( You can disagree or agree ) Post your comments and put in your answer in the poll. (its raining so pull out the popcorn
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Matt aka Stinkymatt, always gives me a earful for not posting current on the water reports. I use to post current on the water reports, but I use to get alot of hate messages. So now I wait a few weeks on public forums. I Also don't like to post my honey holes but I'll share a hot bite with my fellow kayakers by private messages. Especially the people who helped me learn to fish. Most of the people who share hot bites don't want me to post a bite so I follow their wishes, since they spent countless of hours to find it.


On the other hand if someone wants to share a hot bite, I do not care. I just won't post one myself because I have been taught the underground kayakfishing laws by my teachers. Have I been taught wrong? I don't think so. I use discretion now on what i post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE (Post 21346)
Simply, the idea that you "deserve" others hard earned information is ridiculous. Be happy with what you get, learn to read between the lines, and there is no substitute for time on the water.
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Oh, by the way I fished today. The water temp was 58.1, with twelve-feet of visibility, tons of greenbacks, and an entire fleet of boats with not one fish caught.
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Josh said" learn to read between the lines" so I have, but it also helPs having friends that share current intel by pm.

I do like this site very much, I met most of you through the site. I am also able to get a fishing buddy through this site whenever I go out.


So to finish my story:


I will protect a hotbite because that is what I have been taught. I for one HATE trying to fish in a crowded spot, but I'll do it.



Go out and fish you won't catch anything by reading this and you won't find your own honey holes if you just stay at home. The ocean is big, make some friends and go out.



Have fun


-frank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo Betta (Post 21353)
Im still paying my dues, but I will say that being on a Kayak really cuts down your "fishing range" on the water, its not like I can just fire up 225horses and blaze off to the 390.

I dont blame you guys on bit for trying to keep the bite on the DL. Stealth is one of a Kayaks biggest assets. Nothing will shut it down faster then a lot of PB running around everywhere.

So keep posting the way its been going, a few days after the bite. If I need intel I'll drop by the launch or PM a few friends, better yet Ill just go fish. Time on the water is what its all about, fish are just icing on the cake.

The out of town guys, I feel your pain on the gas and time. Make a few more friends that live here and let them know you maybe coming down. Ive seen nothing but great guys paddling around out there, Im sure the info will flow. Hope to see all of you out there. Frank


bubblehide 10-05-2011 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=wiredantz;96882]This is the question:


Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report.

I started this poll.

:cheers1:...End Quote


ROTFLMAO

wiredantz 10-05-2011 06:33 PM

OMG!!!!



StinkyMatt just GLOBAL Phone TEXT EVERYONE THAT HE IS ELITE:rolleyes:
Elite Matt from Navy Seals.
Yes Captain.!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 96905)
6: Elite Kayak fisherman, who are willing to share information with those willing to put in the time to do research themselves. (Wade, Stinkymatt, Kevin, Scallywag, Greg Andrews, Steveooo and some others)


This is going to last forever. Thanks Drake...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...11018copia.jpg

kareem korn 10-05-2011 07:08 PM

Toilet paper over the top or the bottom?



:boxing_smiley:




It's too windy to fish right now

wiredantz 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=bubblehide;96947]
Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz (Post 96882)
This is the question:


Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report.

I started this poll.

:cheers1:...End Quote


ROTFLMAO

Fixed :p

StinkyMatt 10-05-2011 07:41 PM

Frank you look DRUNK!


Quit drinking my beer when I'm busy pulling in loads of lobster.:D

bubblehide 10-05-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz (Post 96958)

Fixed :p


wew, glad you fixed it! :notworthy:

Whizz Bang 10-05-2011 08:22 PM

There ARE real Navy SEALS on this site, a few actually. Weird huh? Awesome pic tho guys.

DanaPT 10-05-2011 08:59 PM

Rain sucks . . .
 
All we get in the forum on days like today. . . Non-sense.

Bring back the sun. bring back the fish porn. Whether the report is hot off the press on a WFO bite or two weeks old, I'll read AND enjoy it.

I think I'm #5.

Drake 10-05-2011 09:32 PM

Forget SEALS, I wannt be a TUNA
Tactical Underwater Nautical Assasin

tagyak 10-06-2011 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil (Post 96918)
I and a few others fish with him on a regular basis and unfortunately also talk to him on a regular basis. I know that the minute he see's this he's going to print it, show it to his wife, kids, neighbors, his students and I'm also sure he'll frame it. The worst part is that he'll probably vacuum seal a copy of it and show it to us every trip and remind us during every phone conversation.

not to mention that he DID text it to us.....LOL

deepdvr 10-06-2011 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whizz Bang (Post 96965)
There ARE real Navy SEALS on this site, a few actually. Weird huh? Awesome pic tho guys.


From my experience, SEALS are average fisherman at best. The CAG bubba's are the one's who really know how to fish. ;)

Fiskadoro 10-06-2011 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblehide (Post 96947)
ROTFLMAO

Funny stuff indeed!!!

Basically your damned if you do damned if you don't. I mean you just can't win.

For example a few years back I caught I decent C-bass at La Jolla while fishing alone one afternoon. No wide open squid bite just a lone slug I got dropper looping a mack. Got some tourists to take a pic almost right where I got it. I waited a month to post about it and even photoshopped the location before I put the pic up, and I instantly got shit for posting the wide open bite. Maybe fate set it up so I actually posted the altered pic during a new hot bite, in a new location but more likely it was just someone that wanted to start shit.

Likewise last spring I posted a single pic of a friend and his seabass with something along the lines of "They are out there!" On another yak site. You couldn't tell the location from the pic but more importantly there was no wide open bite to spoil. My buddy just picked up a single fish by waiting them out and being in the right place at the right time. Evidently some other jerkoff saw the pic, had fished that day, and since he did not get one (there was only one caught) he got his panties in a big wad. Next thing I know this jerk has emailed all his buddies and they are all complaining that I had single handedly ruined a bite that never existed. The irony was that none of those guys got any seabass at that location for months, precisely because it never went wide open, and my friend manged several more over then next few months just picking them up one at a time by waiting them out.

Dude you know who you are congrats again!!!

Bottom line there are no standards and as a result people just give shit to who they want to. Some can post fish right in the middle of bite and don't get shit at all. Others post things that could no way effect the bite and people go after them using it as an excuse even though their real agendas have nothing to do with the particular posting, the actual fishing conditions or even the bite, if it exists or not.


At this point personally I'm like: Why bother. There are some in the internet fishing scene that are always going to be a-holes, it's in their nature and unlike normal people they have nothing else to do with their lives other then sit around on a few message boards, give people shit all day, or make up a bunch of childish drama behind the scenes.

I personally don't need the aggravation. Fighting with such retards is retarded.

Now that I no longer post much I have much more time for things I really enjoy like actually fishing, building new things, women and drinking. Works for me!!

Jim

pchen911 10-06-2011 10:50 AM

Most people in category 5: (Those who don't care to post).

Are created by people in category 4. (Those who jump on someone's ass for posting).

Someone who is not all that bothered by having a few more kayaks or boats on the water. Someone who believe the impact is limited and would prefer to welcome new people in the sport because it is a fair and positive trade-off. Someone who appreciate reading and enjoy reporting on timely conditions.

Ends up choosing NOT posting because they don't want to deal with the drama that is created by those in category 4.

The evolution of the kayak fisherman, if going from:
-> Newbie who come to read -> Fisherman who read and share -> Fisherman who no longer share
Should result in a constant state of reporting by the second group, if there is a constant inflow of fresh blood into the sport.

The website would remain in a fairly steady state where there is always a group of people willing to share their reports. The site would not change even though the individual fisherman evolves from one category to the next.

But that is not the case we have here. Here, we find the website itself have evolved from one that used to have timely reports to one that does not.

The possible causes are: either there is a reduction in the number of people getting into this sport so there is a reduction in the numbers progressing into group 2 from group 1. Or, there is an increase in the number of people who jump on others asses for reporting.

I believe it is the latter reason that caused the change in this website.

monkeyfishturds 10-06-2011 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Day (Post 97012)
Funny stuff indeed!!!

Basically your damned if you do damned if you don't. I mean you just can't win.

For example a few years back I caught I decent C-bass at La Jolla while fishing alone one afternoon. No wide open squid bite just a lone slug I got dropper looping a mack. Got some tourists to take a pic almost right where I got it. I waited a month to post about it and even photoshopped the location before I put the pic up, and I instantly got shit for posting the wide open bite. Maybe fate set it up so I actually posted the altered pic during a new hot bite, in a new location but more likely it was just someone that wanted to start shit.

Likewise last spring I posted a single pic of a friend and his seabass with something along the lines of "They are out there!" On another yak site. You couldn't tell the location from the pic but more importantly there was no wide open bite to spoil. My buddy just picked up a single fish by waiting them out and being in the right place at the right time. Evidently some other jerkoff saw the pic, had fished that day, and since he did not get one (there was only one caught) he got his panties in a big wad. Next thing I know this jerk has emailed all his buddies and they are all complaining that I had single handedly ruined a bite that never existed. The irony was that none of those guys got any seabass at that location for months, precisely because it never went wide open, and my friend manged several more over then next few months just picking them up one at a time by waiting them out.

Dude you know who you are congrats again!!!

Bottom line there are no standards and as a result people just give shit to who they want to. Some can post fish right in the middle of bite and don't get shit at all. Others post things that could no way effect the bite and people go after them using it as an excuse even though their real agendas have nothing to do with the particular posting, the actual fishing conditions or even the bite, if it exists or not.


At this point personally I'm like: Why bother. There are some in the internet fishing scene that are always going to be a-holes, it's in their nature and unlike normal people they have nothing else to do with their lives other then sit around on a few message boards, give people shit all day, or make up a bunch of childish drama behind the scenes.

I personally don't need the aggravation. Fighting with such retards is retarded.

Now that I no longer post much I have much more time for things I really enjoy like actually fishing, building new things, women and drinking. Works for me!!

Jim

http://kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10616

http://kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10641

bluesquids 10-06-2011 11:20 AM

Internet is to fishing what Gidget was to surfing. IMO.

YakMedic 10-06-2011 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds (Post 97026)

How is it you have 3 postings and 2 of which are against Jim Day? Just saying.....
Disclaimer* I have never spoke, fished or met Jim. Just seems funny that's all.

wiredantz 10-06-2011 11:35 AM

LOL, I can't believe, You revived that old post. :p

All I wanted was a fishing buddy that memorial day, and out came Kayak Turf Wars.


By the way 1000 Views and only 39 voted.


Please do not attack anyone for their opinions if they choose to write one.

I just want to get a count of the ACTIVE USERS of B.W.E. but it is also very interesting to see the amount of views in relationship to the people who voted.

monkeyfishturds 10-06-2011 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic (Post 97032)
How is it you have 3 postings and 2 of which are against Jim Day? Just saying.....
Disclaimer* I have never spoke, fished or met Jim. Just seems funny that's all.

I have never spoke, fished or met Jim Day either. Just read all his threads and comments on Allcoast, Kayaksportfishing and Bigwatersedge. Just saying.....

StinkyMatt 10-06-2011 02:41 PM

Nice catch on that Matt. We don't need that Junior High stuff on here.:mad:


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