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ful-rac 09-20-2012 03:21 PM

Let's talk knots "Roy Rose Knot"
 
For those who are interested this is a knot thats good for doubling the line or for making a dropper loop. Stronger than the regular dropper loop and stronger than the spider hitch. Invented by Roy Rose of the Royal Polaris, it's a strong knot for sure.

First step double the line to however long you want the loop.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps15daf4ac.jpg

Second step make a loop with the doubled line.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...psbd5a9293.jpg

Third step make 5 overhand wraps.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps20ed8dbf.jpg

Fourth step pull together, making sure that all 4 legs of the knot are even when cinching down. (critical!)
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...psa7003e9a.jpg

Fifth step Cinch down, should look something like this.
http://i169.photobucket.com/albums/u...psdba0e6ed.jpg

If you want to fish a dropper cut the loop to whatever length you desire, and tie on your hook and sinker.

jorluivil 09-20-2012 04:00 PM

grease monkey

StinkyMatt 09-20-2012 06:51 PM

Can you just tie my knots at the launch?


I will let you follow me on the water.:D


Trying it out right now, thanks Tony.

Sdspeed 09-20-2012 06:54 PM

How about a entire video course!

MarkT 09-20-2012 06:55 PM

A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Sdspeed 09-20-2012 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkT (Post 133907)
A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

so I have inferior knots keeping my rotator cuffs in place :(

TCS 09-20-2012 07:17 PM

I learned it with 6 turns. Wonder what the difference is. A lot of people use 3 way swivels these days.

bus kid 09-20-2012 09:29 PM

Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

MVC 09-21-2012 05:38 AM

I caught this a couple of weeks ago using a 3 way swivel. I tie the swivel straight to the braid, 30 pound to the hook and 15 pound to the sinker.http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/o...SeaBass010.jpg

RockyRaab 09-21-2012 07:50 AM

It's nothing more than a five-turn surgeon's knot (as mentioned) or a doubled uni-knot. But I suppose if somebody wants to name a knot after himself, he can...

ful-rac 09-21-2012 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkT (Post 133907)
A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later! ;)

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!

bellcon 09-21-2012 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ful-rac (Post 133951)
Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later! ;)

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!


Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into:rolleyes:

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.:pcguru:

ful-rac 09-21-2012 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bellcon (Post 133952)
Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into:rolleyes:

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.:pcguru:

That's ok they can sink thier teeth into this one, all in good fun, gotta keep things interesting around here! Drama......Hook uuuuuppp!!!! Spectra to leader knot coming up....

Dirty Curti 09-21-2012 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bus kid (Post 133919)
Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

You had to go there!:banghead::banghead:

RockyRaab 09-21-2012 01:35 PM

Wasn't throwing stones. It looks like a perfectly good knot, and if it's a modification of something else that the good Mr Rose developed, he CAN name it after himself.

Now for the Rocky knot, do I combine the Trilene knot with a Uni for hook tying -- or back-back unis with the ends tucked between the strands blood knot style for joining lines? Decisions decisions...

roby 09-22-2012 05:41 PM

Thanks for the pics Big Tony....

Most of the knots you've shown me I've put to good use...


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