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SHRED 06-04-2017 12:37 PM

Kayak car rack assist
 
My lower back is not in good enough shape anymore to hoist my Outback on to the roof rack on my Honda CR-V.

Any suggestions?
I'm looking at the Thule Hulavator. Is it pretty much the gold standard or are there other options?
I don't want a trailer.
Thanks.

Hunters Pa 06-04-2017 12:49 PM

I put carpet and all-purpose utility hooks on a couple 8 foot 2x4s to help slide the kayak onto my rack on a gmc envoy. Hoisting a hack up to 7+ feet after a day on the water was a bit much. But, for my PA I use a trailer

kirkdavis 06-04-2017 01:17 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...9f4193056d.jpgI have an Outback CRV combo and made a T-bar to assist similar to ones you can buy. I only have to lift one end at a time.
Reading about the hulavator it only assists with up to 40 pounds from waist high. Sounds like you have to lift the whole 80 up to waist high to get it on. I like my T-bar and I'm 56 with periodical back problems.


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steve999 06-04-2017 02:43 PM

Yakima makes what they call a "boat loader". It's just a bar inside one of the roof crossbars that telescopes out. Allows you to put one end of the kayak on the bar, so you only have to lift one end at a time. Requires yakima round roof rack though.

SHRED 06-04-2017 03:21 PM

Thanks for the replies
 
I gotta do something.
I'd hate to ruin a fishing trip or worse by wrenching my back.

MrPukaShell 06-04-2017 03:54 PM

I watched a guy load his Outback by himself using the Yakima bar extender. He extended the bar on the front rack and lifted the front of the Outback on to the bar. He had a little bungie or something to keep it from sliding off. Then went to the back and lifted it on. Look on Youtube and there are examples.

Mahigeer 06-04-2017 04:22 PM

Defjack uses the extender and he makes it looks easy. He is in good shape for his age.


I am waiting to hear from Andy so I can go to OEX to pickup my Thule Helluvator. Not cheap since I had to buy Thule cross bars too, so I can use the Helluvator.

I will post about it.

Since it will store the kayak on one side, there will be room for a roof carrier on the other part of the roof. If needed, I hope there is enough room inside the cab for my gear for Baja, so I don't need the roof carrier.

There are many YouTube posts.

kirkdavis 06-04-2017 04:35 PM

Tried that
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve999 (Post 280567)
Yakima makes what they call a "boat loader". It's just a bar inside one of the roof crossbars that telescopes out. Allows you to put one end of the kayak on the bar, so you only have to lift one end at a time. Requires yakima round roof rack though.

I made one of those before the T-bar I ended up with. The problem is, you still need to lift one end up higher than your shoulders. Then you have to go lift the other end to the same height and wrangle it around to get it slid sideways onto the car top. With the T-bar, you lift one end up to about high belly/low chest, then walk to the bottom end, lift and push, and it slides right up onto the roof.

Dave Legacy 06-04-2017 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mahigeer (Post 280571)
Defjack uses the extender and he makes it looks easy. He is in good shape for his age.


I am waiting to hear from Andy so I can go to OEX to pickup my Thule Helluvator. Not cheap since I had to buy Thule cross bars too, so I can use the Helluvator.

I will post about it.

Since it will store the kayak on one side, there will be room for a roof carrier on the other part of the roof. If needed, I hope there is enough room inside the cab for my gear for Baja, so I don't need the roof carrier.

There are many YouTube posts.

Gonna do one of the narrow roof boxes? I have a Yakima Skybox 21 and when it's up there nothing else will fit next to it, but I'm also using factory crossbars which tend to be narrower than aftermarket. The Yakima Rocketpod looks good for your application.

Snags 06-04-2017 05:38 PM

I have a CRV with a hullavator.
Had back surgery about 4 years ago and it's been a big help. You do have to lift the yak around waist high.
I have a Trident 13 so it's fairly light and haven't had any issues
Downside is the cost but it has been worth it.
Just make sure you take it off before you go in low parking garages.

Mahigeer 06-04-2017 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Legacy (Post 280576)
Gonna do one of the narrow roof boxes? I have a Yakima Skybox 21 and when it's up there nothing else will fit next to it, but I'm also using factory crossbars which tend to be narrower than aftermarket. The Yakima Rocketpod looks good for your application.

Long ago, I got a soft roof carrier for a fishing trip to up north. I have not used it since!

And thanks for the tip about the Hullavator.

SHRED 06-04-2017 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snags (Post 280577)
I have a CRV with a hullavator.
Had back surgery about 4 years ago and it's been a big help. You do have to lift the yak around waist high.
I have a Trident 13 so it's fairly light and haven't had any issues
Downside is the cost but it has been worth it.
Just make sure you take it off before you go in low parking garages.

Good to know. Thanks.

How long do my crossbars need to be to house 2 Hullavators?

Mahigeer 06-04-2017 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHRED (Post 280581)
Good to know. Thanks.

How long do my crossbars need to be to house 2 Hullavators?



They need to be at leas 4"-6" past the side railing. This insures the Hullavator stays prod of the car body. That way the car is protected.

SHRED 06-04-2017 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahigeer (Post 280582)
They need to be at leas 4"-6" past the side railing. This insures the Hullavator stays prod of the car body. That way the car is protected.

Side railing?
Is that the foot mount that attaches to the vehicle?

Hunters Pa 06-04-2017 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahigeer (Post 280582)
They need to be at leas 4"-6" past the side railing. This insures the Hullavator stays prod of the car body. That way the car is protected.

Couldn't you use the hullivator to get the yak to the roof, move it to a rack, then use the hullivator again for a second yak?

Dave Legacy 06-04-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahigeer (Post 280579)
Long ago, I got a soft roof carrier for a fishing trip to up north. I have not used it since!

And thanks for the tip about the Hullavator.

I'm glad to have been helpful. =)

Mahigeer 06-05-2017 05:50 AM

Rather than me trying to paint a picture, I recommend to check out YouTube for many posts.

Since the kayak sits in a clam style bracket, one unit per kayak. It can not be used only for lifting.

Thus, to have two kayaks, one would need two Hullavator. However, if a long enough cross bar is used, one set is all one needs.

Denis_Ruso 06-05-2017 07:44 AM

back seats folded down, hatch open and http://www.austinkayak.com/products/...FU1ufgodZCwOyw

JJ 06-05-2017 11:55 AM

I have a similar dilemma.
Trident Prowler 15 gets to be a handful when loading after a day on the water.

Here is something you might want to consider.
It's called Rhino Rack. Check it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSeHSCfHniQ

Good luck. Regards.

-JJ-

Mahigeer 06-05-2017 03:14 PM

My problem with loading from the back was the fact that once I lifted the front and put it on the Yakima holder, then the kayak would slip back. The rear of the kayak would also be scraping on the concrete and get marked.
No place to grab either. Later I used a tarp or cardboard on the ground, and used the rear strap attached to the back handle to keep the kayak from slipping.

I even have a roller bar with suction cups that supposed to allow for ease of sliding of the kayak once parallel to the roof. After that it was going from side to side and using a step ladder to tie down the kayak and get on the hood to attach the front strap. Then repeat the same for unloading.

With Hullavator once kayak is lifted to waist high, and positioned on the holder, the kayak can be strapped and front and rear (provided) ratcheting straps can be attached. No step ladder necessary.

It seems the hardest part is to lift and lower the kayak waist high while holding the middle handles.


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