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Drake 10-09-2011 09:05 PM

Problem with Charkbait brand Sabiki rod?
 
Has anyone run into problems with the Charkbait rod? Whenever I let my sabiki out, every single hook gets caught on the way out, right at the end. I don't know if I have a defective model or just poor design, but it makes things pretty annoying, also, the whole sabiki rig doesn't even fit in the 7ft rod! 1 hook and my weight always hang out. The swivel can't seems to make its way through. This is all on a size 12 hooked rig.

Thanks in advance

pchen911 10-10-2011 07:23 AM

Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

Drake 10-10-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pchen911 (Post 97370)
Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

There is none? Its getting caught on the inside.

ctfphoto 10-10-2011 08:46 AM

Just make a pvc one, they work fantastic at very little cost.

Handymansd 10-10-2011 08:48 AM

some times the plug in the end does not seat well and the hooks will hang up. I would see if he will change it out for you. Also, most shorter sabiki rods need to have the sabiki trimmed down a bit, just cut off enough so that the swivel ends up right at the opening at the base of the rod...besides 5-6 hooks can be too many and a real pain on a kayak when there are fish on all of them! I like to use no more than 4 hooks, and 2 is usually sufficient to get bait in a hurry. I also like to let the barbs rust off which makes "bouncing" them in the foot well the easiest release.

Kailolo 10-10-2011 04:56 PM

Sabiki Tricks
 
Not to hijack the thread, but ...
As a new Revo owner, former FnD owner, trying to deal with space-the final frontier of a Revo owner--I decided not to buy or carry a dedicated sabiki rod. Instead, I use the sabiki rig by clipping it to the hook (ideally the solid ring on a ringed hook) on either one of my 2 trolling rods, make sufficient bait, then unclip the rig and bait up the trolling rod.

Sabiki rig is kept in a zip lock (or velcro lure keeper) with the hooks embedded in a 2 inch piece of pipe insulation foam, so it can be placed anywhere on the deck or gunnel storage in case I want to make bait again.

Flatten the barbs with pliers to facilitate release.

I always cut a 6-hook sabiki rig into two 3-hook rigs, and then attach a snap or swivel to the cut end as needed.

I'm thinking of baiting them--wonder of small strip of Gulp would help? Hate to carry squid or fish parts.

pchen911 10-10-2011 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kailolo (Post 97442)
Not to hijack the thread, but ...
As a new Revo owner, former FnD owner, trying to deal with space-the final frontier of a Revo owner--I decided not to buy or carry a dedicated sabiki rod. Instead, I use the sabiki rig by clipping it to the hook (ideally the solid ring on a ringed hook) on either one of my 2 trolling rods, make sufficient bait, then unclip the rig and bait up the trolling rod.

Sabiki rig is kept in a zip lock (or velcro lure keeper) with the hooks embedded in a 2 inch piece of pipe insulation foam, so it can be placed anywhere on the deck or gunnel storage in case I want to make bait again.

Flatten the barbs with pliers to facilitate release.

I always cut a 6-hook sabiki rig into two 3-hook rigs, and then attach a snap or swivel to the cut end as needed.

I'm thinking of baiting them--wonder of small strip of Gulp would help? Hate to carry squid or fish parts.

Tried the sabiki in a bag before.

The dang thing gets tangled up so easily and I end up spending a bunch of time trying to sort it out.

Not a bad idea as far as reducing your quiver by 1 rod though... especially if you only make bait once throughout the day. But if you are using a bait tube, it is very likely you'll be making bait on-and-off several times throughout the day.

Billy V 10-10-2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake (Post 97353)
Has anyone run into problems with the Charkbait rod? Whenever I let my sabiki out, every single hook gets caught on the way out, right at the end. I don't know if I have a defective model or just poor design, but it makes things pretty annoying, also, the whole sabiki rig doesn't even fit in the 7ft rod! 1 hook and my weight always hang out. The swivel can't seems to make its way through. This is all on a size 12 hooked rig.

Thanks in advance

There are two different size sabiki rods - one for the small sabiki hooks, and one for the larger sabiki hooks.

Which one do you have ? I bet you have the smaller rod and are using a #6 sabiki.

Drake 10-11-2011 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy V (Post 97481)
There are two different size sabiki rods - one for the small sabiki hooks, and one for the larger sabiki hooks.

Which one do you have ? I bet you have the smaller rod and are using a #6 sabiki.

Theyre size 12

Deamon 10-11-2011 08:12 AM

If you decide to reduce your rig down to three hooks and place that into a ziplock, the tangles are eliminated. Unibutter on the hooks makes a big difference for me...

blackcloud9 10-11-2011 10:03 AM

Why have one?
 
One tip from my kayak seminars - I use a three-hook sabiki and when
storing this on my light bass rod, I connect the two upper hooks together
and hook the bottom hook on a guide or the reel and keep the line tight.

You can do the same with 5 or 7 hooks too.

As long as each hook is taught, and there are no loose hooks swinging
around, you will be fine w/o a "sabiki" rod (no doubt the gear stores all
LOVE to sell them to you though ... and, may promise you that they are
required kayak gear. )

Storage and recovery/reuse of longer sabiki strings by themselves is a
mess, and is why I use three hook strings.

Hope that helps.

silverbullet 10-11-2011 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pchen911 (Post 97370)
Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

:hahaha:

PapaDave 10-11-2011 11:04 AM

I usually put a small peice of styrofoam on the hooks, which usually number 3-4. I tried a sabiki rod, great idea, but keep loosing the fish, too stiff I think, but not sure.

StinkyMatt 10-11-2011 12:01 PM

PAPA,

Thanks for the post about your stiff rod (wait, that didn't come out right):eek:

Anyways, I used to use a "stiff" sabiki rod and watched numerous guys kick my ass while fishing for bait with traditional rods.

This last week I used a medium bass rod and absolutely loaded up on bait in NO time.

I don't know how much difference the rod makes, but it made a difference to me.:D


Elite Bait Catcher Club

pchen911 10-11-2011 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverbullet (Post 97514)
:hahaha:

Yea... I did that.

PescadorPete 10-12-2011 06:32 PM

This make a pretty good sabiki hook keeper. No angles, no tangles. About a buck at Squidco.

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...iki_holder.jpg


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