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FISHIONADO 02-20-2007 12:48 PM

Photo showing Scripps Canyon at Blacks
 
I think this is from 1945, shows Scripps and Sumner Canyons. La Jolla Farms was still a farm.
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwegall...ne_Canyons.jpg

lambadmin 02-20-2007 01:07 PM

very cool picture Dave...

I didn't even know the pier was there that long ago. I knew about some of those buildings on the campus, but not the pier.

Iceman 02-20-2007 01:19 PM

the pier must have been shorter or the underwater topography has sure changed for it to be breaking even with the pier to the north. Although it looks like we have lost alot of sand in 60 years. Cool pic Dave, probably took it from a dirigible:D

DESTROYER 02-20-2007 02:21 PM

Andy- It looks like the tide goes all the way up to the cliff. I no that happens north of the pier, but what about where the houses are?

Matt

Jim Sammons LJKF 02-21-2007 09:23 AM

Scripps Pier was originally built in 1916 and remained until 1988 when it was rebuilt. I have a piece of wood from the original pier at my house.
http://www-csgc.ucsd.edu/STAFF/Resources/campusold.jpeg

Here is a little more information
The land that SIO is on was originally purchased from the city for $1000.
http://www.explorations.ucsd.edu/back/exp_pdfs/Volume_7_n1/The_Biological_Colony_V7n1.pdf

kenishere 02-21-2007 09:49 AM

awesome pic's, lots of history here.

Jim Sammons LJKF 02-21-2007 10:35 AM

Even more information than you probably want. Thanks to the kind lady at SIO for sending this to me.

Ellen Browning Scripps Memorial Pier

(1) Background

The Pier at UCSD's Scripps Institution of Oceanography is an important
support facility for research and educational activities. It also serves as
a collection site for clean seawater, marine animals, atmospheric and
oceanic data and as a launching site for small boats. Since construction
of the original pier in 1916, the Scripps Pier has been a prominent
landmark on the La Jolla coastline. Since August 1916 the pier has been
the site of daily seawater temperature and salinity measurements, the
longest continuous readings of such ocean parameters. The Scripps Pier
.houses the oldest tide gauge station in the open ocean on the west coast,
installed in 1924.

(2) NEW PIER

Name: Ellen Browning Scripps Memorial Pier, named in honor of Ellen
Browning Scripps, benefactress of Scripps Institution and donor of
$36,000 for the construction of the original Scripps Pier.

Construction; Began February 1987, just south of old pier.

Length: 1,084 feet

Width: 22-1/2 feet

Height: 34 feet above mean lower low water at end
of pier Submarine Canyon: 2,600 feet west from pier - 600 feet deep

Seawater System:

Two new, 1,200-gallon-per-minute (GPM) pumps and one 850 GPM pump,
salvaged from the old pier, supply fresh seawater to a gravity flume
system extending the length of the pier to three large sand filter tanks on
the shore. Secondary pumping systems pump water to two sets of holding
tanks from which it is distributed by gravity to buildings and laboratories
throughout Scripps and the Southwest Fisheries Center at the rate of 1.8
million gallons per day.

Boat Launching:

A 3-ton boat launching hoist lowers boats in support of diving operations
and nearshore biological and underwater research.

Laboratory Space:

Approximately 1,000 square feet house hard-wire links to offshore

computerized instruments, tide gauges, water sampling, and weather

instruments. It also serves as a testing site for various types of

instruments prior to use aboard ships or in other locations and numerous

temporary lab uses for student experiments.

Pier Material: All Concrete

Piling Material:Pre-stressed concrete

Piling Length: 76 feet maximum

Depth: 42 feet below mean lower low water

Design Firm:Ferver Engineering, San Diego, California

Construction:Kiewit Pacific Company, Vallejo, California

Cost: $3,950,000

Funded by: State of California

Research Uses:

__500 boat launchings per year
_Many oceanographic instruments deployed from pier. By using pier scientists an bypass 95 percent of surf
_NOAA wave sensors are mounted on bottom at the end of the pier.
_Plankton samples can be taken from end of the pier in nets or in flume.
_Water temperatures (top and bottom) are taken from end of pier every day.
_Pier gives continuous means of conducting research beyond the surf line without launching a boat.

(3) Old Pier:

Built:
1915-16 at a cost of $36,000

Funding:
Ellen Browning Scripps

Length:
1,018 feet

Width:
20 feet

Construction: Wood with concrete pilings. Pilings had

been reinforced several times over the years to strengthen.

Demolished: Spring 1988






Brett D. 02-21-2007 09:03 PM

I love the old pictures of the San Diego Beaches and bays. They always make me wonder what it would be like if we had the fish populations from those days with todays fishing gear. Oh and it would be nice if teh human population was the same as it was back then too.
Where exactly is the old LJ farm?
Is that it in the top right hand corner of the first picture?
Brett D.

ronbo613 02-22-2007 06:35 AM

The recent posts regarding water etiquette and the "rights" of the "locals" make me think how unfortunate it is that people today have lost the sense of history that surrounds the beaches and waters of La Jolla.
http://www.freedive.net/bottom_scrat...atchers_sm.jpg
San Diego Bottom Scratchers

http://www.legendarysurfers.com/surf...simmonscar.jpg
Bob Simmons - Why Windansea will always be a waterman's shrine

As we walk across the same beaches as these legends, what will our generation contribute to this legacy?

MKNOTT 02-22-2007 10:21 AM

Wow Ronbo! that San Diego Bottom Scratchers link is awsome. Check out those WSB. Love to go back in time

Lit-up1 02-22-2007 10:58 AM

What a cool photo of the pier and the canyons.
Has anybody seen anything like that but more recent-I don't see why that photo can't be duplicated on a clear water day with the right sun conditions.
I would like to see if they changed and how far out the edges go-as opposed to looking at my fishfinder.

Dave

hubz 02-22-2007 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lit-up1 (Post 10383)
...
Has anybody seen anything like that but more recent-I don't see why that photo can't be duplicated on a clear water day with the right sun conditions.
I would like to see if they changed and how far out the edges go-as opposed to looking at my fishfinder.

You can find recent aerial photos of the Scripps area here. It's at a different angle though. Difficult to compare to the old photo.

Mark

Brett D. 02-22-2007 03:10 PM

Nice links Ronbo. We have a picture of my dad on a longboard at La Jolla in the 60's with 3 huge WSB laid across the front. If I am not mistaken he won a spear fishing contest that day.

katchfish 02-22-2007 06:47 PM

Great resources guys!

The breakers were breaking before the new pier on Tuesday.:eek:

Ken


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