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dmanars 05-17-2014 10:12 PM

Newb Bait questions.
 
Reading posts, I see that there are live baits being used.
Im not used to using live bait for BTB.
I see the most common are mackerel and Squid.

When you say bait is easy are you referring to jigging for squid?
And how are you catching mackerel? spoons?

Cadillyak 05-17-2014 11:57 PM

Probably macs using sabiki rigs.

taggermike 05-18-2014 07:23 AM

Most yakers use sibikis to catch bait locally. Squid can be caught on sibikis as well but usually go for the squid jigs better. Saying bait is easy just means bait was easy to catch, no matter what kind. Typically pacific mackerel(called green macs or greenies) are the preferred bait, but you catch smelt, sardines, and Spanish mackerel(brown mackerel or Spanish jacks) on sibikis as well. Some times one of these other baits are all you can find. They don't troll as well as greenies but do catch fish. I've caught YT, calicos, cuda, halibut, and bonito on every one of the above baits. Bring a few sibikis of different sizes, and a size selection of live bait hooks so you'll be ready for what's out there. Mike

Silbaugh4liberty 05-18-2014 06:52 PM

I don't have much luck on the squid type sibiki, usually the foil or shrimp kind works best for bait fish IMO. Caught plenty of sculpin on the squid sibiki while trying to get some macks though! !:cheers1:

momo fish 05-18-2014 07:26 PM

Question. Anyone ever catch chovies?? Is it possible to catch on sabiki rig?

Fish Taco 05-18-2014 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dmanars (Post 194667)
Im not used to using live bait for BTB.

At the risk of sounding like a "googan", I'm having a brain fart and currently can't figure out the heck the acronym for "BTB"... will someone kindly clue me in please?

Thx

MrPatrick 05-18-2014 07:54 PM

Beyond the breakers

Or as I call it "A future destination"!

Had to beat you guys to it.

I have been BTB many times, was just having a James Blunt moment the day of the Derby. :)

Anchovies are Plankton eaters, very doubtful on a sabiki unless you snag them.


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MrPatrick 05-18-2014 07:56 PM

Eagle Claw makes a circle hook sabiki that I like a lot. Easy to get them off the hook.


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GregAndrew 05-20-2014 08:03 AM

You can catch Anchovies on the Sabiki, but they can be finicky. Choose the small ones without the plastic beads in size 12 or 14. Just like other fish and lure combos, presentation can make the difference between not getting hit and having a great day. Jigging straight up and down, casting out with a small weight for a slow sink and dragging your sabiki are just a few methods you can try for all baitfish.

If you are looking for Squid, use a Squid gangion with a weighted Squid jig on the end. If there are a lot of Pacific Mackerel around, then use a sinker instead of the jig on the end.

Fish Taco 05-20-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by MrPatrick (Post 194759)
Beyond the breakers

Or as I call it "A future destination"!

I have been BTB many times, was just having a James Blunt moment the day of the Derby. :)

Mr. Patrick,

Thank you! In my mind I was thinking that "BTB" was a species of fish or something... hadn't even thought of "Beyond The Breakers"... doh!

- Ken

dmanars 05-20-2014 10:49 PM

Thanks for the info. Being from the Texas coast I have to catch up on the lingo on the west coast. We didnt use much live bait. Or at least I didnt. Also my lingo may not match Ill try to adjust.

Silbaugh4liberty 05-21-2014 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by momo fish (Post 194752)
Question. Anyone ever catch chovies?? Is it possible to catch on sabiki rig?

Took my son, nephew and nieces to hb pier a few times and there were large schools of anchovies. Between three poles they got about 100 anchovies on the sibiki in about an hour.


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