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45user 06-18-2020 10:16 PM

Garmin ff user info request
 
So I’m looking to switch to garmin from my old lowrance and have few questions for you who use them.
I’m looking at EchoMAP 63cv. And I see the transducers they come with are 77/200 traditional sonar with 455/800 for down view. I mostly fish ocean anywhere from 50-300’ and not sure how well these transducer will read.
If you are using garmin, can you comment on how they do in ocean?
It looks like you can get a garmin transducer with 50/200 separately but none of the units I see comes with it.
Thank you in advance!
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Batmann 06-19-2020 05:27 AM

Look for the Garmin Echomap Plus 64CV. The 63 series is with freshwater maps. The 64 is for saltwater maps.

https://www.westmarine.com/buy/garmi...arts--19386556

Was $399 over memorial day. Like it much better then my Lowrance Hook.

Can't comment on the Echomap Plus UHD as that series of transducers appear to be geared more for shallow freshwater use. Go to the Garmin website and review the transducers described application.



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FullFlavorPike 06-19-2020 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 45user (Post 308207)
So I’m looking to switch to garmin from my old lowrance and have few questions for you who use them.
I’m looking at EchoMAP 63cv. And I see the transducers they come with are 77/200 traditional sonar with 455/800 for down view. I mostly fish ocean anywhere from 50-300’ and not sure how well these transducer will read.
If you are using garmin, can you comment on how they do in ocean?
It looks like you can get a garmin transducer with 50/200 separately but none of the units I see comes with it.
Thank you in advance!
45


Go watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6zb...ature=emb_logo

Lots of good info about sonar frequency in there.

45user 06-19-2020 12:26 PM

Thank you all for your help!

ProfessorLongArms 06-19-2020 02:31 PM

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...hlight=echomap

I ditched my Hook5 for a 64cv and love it. Haven't looked back.
Got mine on clearance from WestMarine.

I never use downscan/clearvu and only stick to split screen map/sonar... If I go deeper than 100 feet, I switch over to a lower frequency chirp on the sonar. It works great.

I really like the interfaces and the features. Biggest one being Quickdraw contours. It's a major bummer that, AFAIK, you can't really review the contours you draw outside the unit itself unless you upload to a public site, but other than that it's such a good unit.

Only other gripe (if you can even call it that) I have is when I'm launching before sunrise and can't see that well, I'll push the cable in (perfect circle with 4 sqaure pin pattern and a tiny notch on the side) the wrong way and have to redo it to get it to work properly.

45user 06-19-2020 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms (Post 308238)
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...hlight=echomap

I ditched my Hook5 for a 64cv and love it. Haven't looked back.
Got mine on clearance from WestMarine.

I never use downscan/clearvu and only stick to split screen map/sonar... If I go deeper than 100 feet, I switch over to a lower frequency chirp on the sonar. It works great.

I really like the interfaces and the features. Biggest one being Quickdraw contours. It's a major bummer that, AFAIK, you can't really review the contours you draw outside the unit itself unless you upload to a public site, but other than that it's such a good unit.

Only other gripe (if you can even call it that) I have is when I'm launching before sunrise and can't see that well, I'll push the cable in (perfect circle with 4 sqaure pin pattern and a tiny notch on the side) the wrong way and have to redo it to get it to work properly.

Which transducer did yours come with?
Thanks for your reply!
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ProfessorLongArms 06-19-2020 02:48 PM

So I wanted a transducer for two different kayaks, so I bought a refurbished Striker 4 plus with a dual beam transducer... That one's on my dive kayak. The CV came with a GT20 if I'm not mistaken. Only difference is that I can't use downscan on my dive kayak (never deeper than 60 feet of water anyway) and I never use downscan.

There's a whole rabbit hole about older vs newer garmin transducers....
Long story short is that Navico makes Downscan tech, and they license it out to other companies. Garmin opted not to pay for theirs, and Lowrance sued.... They now can't technically package the downscan with a single beam, but have another technology that's a composite of two angled beams that's inferior. Lowrance even went so far as to put out a promotional video talking about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klwhx0SndJQ

I guess I could see it being useful if you're bass fishing or something, but ocean kayak fishing, I don't really get much out of downscan at all.

Harry Hill 06-19-2020 02:59 PM

I can see I really need to learn how to use my Garmin SV7, I don't know what anybody is talking about.

ProfessorLongArms 06-19-2020 04:22 PM

Correction- My bad I got the 44cv. Much smaller screen and no wifi

Batmann 06-21-2020 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProfessorLongArms (Post 308238)
http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...hlight=echomap



I ditched my Hook5 for a 64cv and love it. Haven't looked back.

Got mine on clearance from WestMarine.



I never use downscan/clearvu and only stick to split screen map/sonar... If I go deeper than 100 feet, I switch over to a lower frequency chirp on the sonar. It works great.



I really like the interfaces and the features. Biggest one being Quickdraw contours. It's a major bummer that, AFAIK, you can't really review the contours you draw outside the unit itself unless you upload to a public site, but other than that it's such a good unit.



Only other gripe (if you can even call it that) I have is when I'm launching before sunrise and can't see that well, I'll push the cable in (perfect circle with 4 sqaure pin pattern and a tiny notch on the side) the wrong way and have to redo it to get it to work properly.

+1 to all of this. Ditched my Lowrance. Love my Garmin.


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