Don't know about others, but I don't cast live bait often from the kayak. Just drop the bait over board then paddle/peddle away a ways. Lots of casting with plastics and irons though. 5-20, I'm right with you about trolling, boring, but on the kayak you're going at a perfect live bait trolling speed so you might as well have one back there. Drop a mac back, put clicker on, put in rod holder, and let the bait do it's thing. I find that a strong point of fishing the kayak, you're always fishing. Mike
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