For a bit there, I was thinking, WOW(!) there it is...Jim's Man Cave...with a stack of Promar hoops dead center in his room! Dude probably takes out brand new traps every trip...but then I saw the sale sign and my envy bubble popped just like that, oh well...the hooping info Jim shares is invaluable. Add years of experience to your hooping game by soaking in his knowledge and tips. Jim