[momo fish]

How often are you out fishing and are you surf launching ?

Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

I tried both Outback seats and decided I liked the old seat better, especially for the price difference. Other than the seat, there only minor cosmetic upgrades to the 2015 over the 2014 that are not important to me. The cup holder drains, whoop-dee-doo. Two little storage net pouches rather than one. Who cares? Not me. Hobie is very good at upselling. If we shop and buy an older year wisely, we can often sell it for the same price we paid when we want to upgrade. If we buy it new, we are going to take an $800 price hit in the first year. More if we buy new add on accessories. Some people have lots of money to spend and they like new things. I have to make things work on a more limited budget. I'll let someone else enjoy the price hit. Whatever we buy is going to get beat up with usage. The plastic is soft. Things break. The idea is to have fun and go fishing.

The new seat has storage room underneath. That might be useful.

There is a lot of marketing hype about how great the new seat is for the Outback, but we usually hear nothing about the similar seat on the PA. Therefore, we have to separate the hype from the reality. If everyone hears how great it is, then everyone gets conditioned to say how great it is. There's also the matter of pride of ownership after someone pays through the nose for a brand new kayak off the showroom floor. They will have a tendency to want to justify the cash burn.

I had a 2008 Outback and bought two 2014 Outbacks. One of the 2014 seats rubbed my ribs with my PFD on, but not sure why. The edges needed to be softened or bent back. Maybe it was too new or maybe it was adjusted weird. Maybe I had the lumbar cushion adjusted wrong. Not sure.

The other 2014 seat and same 2008 seat are very comfortable and soft in the right places. I have no back issues at all. I feel the bucket shape molded into the hull gives me good back support and control. I can pump around for 10 miles and not get tired. My legs might get tired from pushing hard, but it's because it's a good workout. That and my general cardiovascular workout is where I would feel myself tiring. Not in my back.

I can pull the straps and adjust my back forward or backward easily to change the angle of my legs for pumping. If it's a long distance and a steady leg pump, it's nice to spread around the workout on my muscles by moving the seat back angle forward or backward.

The best thing to do is go to the dealer and peddle around in a 2015 or 2016 demo for awhile. Feel for yourself. Do it long enough to tire your muscles a little to see what happens.

I would imagine back conditions vary widely between individuals, as might weight and age. I'm 63, healthy back and not overweight. For me, the old style is just fine.

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