stop it... all you dudes love each other...
i think the issue is that kids do get in the way if they are participating for long periods of time... i let my kids participate for a short time (10 mins), they get bored, then i tell them they're done, and stay out of the way... they helped... and i stay and help as long as i can... but with kids my time is limited...
now, from tony's and jorge's perspectives, they spend the whole day there, from beginning to end... and it is work... efficiency is key in making the day go well...
both can work... just be reasonable...
love,
theluckypig & piglets...