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Originally Posted by Tman
Smoke and mirrors, double speak, hmmm...... I personally can't wait to have a friendly comment session with Mr. Wiseman.
I'm gonna be so vocal I won't even need the mic....
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Martin, remember we need to be passionate, yet courteous, and appropriate!
I know you know that, but just want to remind everyone speaking to not make a spectacle, keep it together.
Believe me, I'd like to get up there, and rip em a new one

but probably best to follow Joe (Zen's) recommendations. This is no secret, but he does this kinda stuff for a living.
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Please please please hammer in about how underhanded and insidious it is to keep the ideas of the rejected proposal C in after it has been soundly rejected. Point out that this is smoke-and-mirror. All they did was avoid mentioning External C by name going forward, but still shove all the ideas of that polarizing and oppressive proposal C down the RSG's throat after the RSGs voted to reject it.
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