I updated the original post again....
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Second, There is a special group rate for groups of 25 or more.
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I thought this only applied to camping. I'll check Saturday....
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I heard that it used to cost $17 to get in and $5 for the kayak: $22
Now it cost $22 and your kayak is free, or is it?
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Whatever the cost to get in from previous years Irvine always charged some extra $$$ for float tubers and kayakers. Now both are free to launch.
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I had a couple guys bail I don't think we will make the 25
besides it's troutdale, nothing is free...lol
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How many from up north?