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Old 06-25-2018, 07:20 AM   #1
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NPH Coast Gaurd Launch Fines!

My buddy just text me that Sheriffs will now enforce no Kayak launch zone at the CG station with a $500 fine. That totally sucks as for me it was the easiest launch area with wash down lol. He also said the beach launch at the end of the same street may not be legal now also. Can others chime in on what you've heard? Other launch sites? Id rather not drive to other side of Balboa if possible. This sucks.
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:41 AM   #2
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Interesting...


I wonder what rule they are trying to enforce now...
And now they are prohibiting us from using the beach.

I found this :

http://www.codepublishing.com/CA/New...720.html#17.20
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Old 06-25-2018, 07:56 AM   #3
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Neil Patrick Harris has his own coast guard station? That's bad-ass!!!
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Old 06-25-2018, 08:08 AM   #4
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That is very odd as they are set up to store and launch outriggers. Sure it is not referring to the parking lot hours.
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Old 06-25-2018, 08:20 AM   #5
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Neil Patrick Harris has his own coast guard station? That's bad-ass!!!
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:10 AM   #6
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Might have to give them a call and get it straight from the horses mouth. Like what was already said, maybe they are just going to crack down and enforce the no parking before 6AM thing.
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Old 06-25-2018, 01:15 PM   #7
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$500.00 for parking ticket? I don't think so.

This is not the first time that residents tried to get rid of anglers in Newport Beach.

They just don't want people like us bring their property value down by going there.
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:26 AM   #8
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Contact the news stations.. If they can't do anything we sure can't..

I wrote KTLA, ABC7, CBS4, and Fox 11...

KTLA 5: http://ktla.com/2014/06/13/send-ktla...-a-story-idea/

Fox 11: fox11news@foxtv.com .. To the attn. of Lisseth

ABC7: http://abc7.com/news/submit-news-tips/27721/

CBS4: https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/have-a-news-tip/


THIS IS CRAP!

Hopefully there is some resolve in favor of us fisherman because yeah, seems we are being squeezed of every last little resource available to us unless you are willing to pay the fees and taxes for running a large boat/operation..
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:45 AM   #9
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One by one our access to launching locations are restricted and or taken away...I get a bad feeling redondo is next with the city's stupid insane waterfront project. Kayakers are definitely not welcome...
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Old 06-26-2018, 09:58 AM   #10
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This is so dumb and makes no sense. Perfectly good place to launch a kayak and park and not bother anyone or be in the way. Now what? we are going to have to go to the island or peninsula and add to the already horrendous parking and traffic situations there?

Sure would have been nice of them to put this out there before deciding on it so that we could have a say...
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:03 AM   #11
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Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:42 PM   #12
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Newport Dunes Launch Ramp is only 40min from the harbormouth at the posted no wake speed of 5mph.
Zed you got to be kidding , in my boat at 5mph up to the CC area would take a hour easy .
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:05 AM   #13
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I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

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Old 06-26-2018, 10:22 AM   #14
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I guess I got that Launch all to myself then!!! Last traffic ticket (expired Drivers License) Judge told me it was a misdemeanor (potentially 6 months in jail), and how would I like to plea. So I handed him a Affidavit which I filed on the record advising him that I was going to File Felony Charges against him if I was deprived of my rights under color of Law Pursuant to Title 42 USC 1983. (I'll see you're misdemeanor and raise you a FELONY!! ) He could've been looking at a minimum of a year in Federal Prison and 100k fine!

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Know your rights people and there's nothing to worry about.

You are right...

These Municipal Codes are statutory rule violations.
There are no injured partys.
You are correct… these are statutory regulations and police can cite you on statutory regulations, it is their job.
What they do is against our Constitutional Rights because there is no injured partys for them to take us to court and there is no written contract.

But if you get a ticket… you still need to spend your personal time/money preparing for the court… writing a Demur on why the court should not hear the case…. Write in for Judicial Notice and Discovery and Brady Request… It’s a lot of non-paid time … for the harassment we receive….

The officer can just write the ticket and then get paid for showing up to court… not knowing anything but what statue was broken, There is no crime without the rule….

That given said… I can probably assume most kayakers live check to check.. they are not going to take the time to fight these regulations and so these Large City just Trample over them.


Kayaking and traveling by water way is so old that it has Been our right since the birth of time…. But now they want to subject us to their laws by making us sign a Boater card license and take a class….


Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?
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Old 06-26-2018, 10:28 AM   #15
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You are right...

Now if the City can prove, it is their own private property…. I think that would change the story… Is it public land or private land?

The problem is that I don’t know the History there… was that Man made.. is it considered Private Property…?
If it is private, then the same rules and regs need to be applied to those outriggers and their owners.. Like you said, our rights are being trampled on, and it is upon us to stand up for them..
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Old 06-26-2018, 12:58 PM   #16
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I launched from there this past Saturday, June 23. It was business as usual, no signs warning of any impending changes. There were a 9 or 10 kayak fishers in the basin that morning. I assume most launched from the CG beach. Now what are we going to do?
Yeah it's probably are the Newport Harbor resident snobs. They don't want anybody else parking on their streets, using the public access sand between their houses, or even be on the water unless you own a house with a dock. They didn't want the white seasbass growout pen in the harbor. They are constantly trying to shut down the bait receiver operation. They tried to ban fishing on both piers. I even heard that some residents on the peninsula were painting their curb red themselves to keep people from parking. What is wrong with these people?
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Old 06-26-2018, 01:17 PM   #17
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I think I will contact the ADA about this . This a restriction of access for handicapped. 8-8 restriction is going kill a lot business in the bay . This sounds just like Malibu and NIMBYS . BEACHES ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY. If rowers are using this beach . They are going have to show they ether own it or they have the only access permission . Which would go against public access codes .
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I think I will contact the ADA about this . This a restriction of access for handicapped. 8-8 restriction is going kill a lot business in the bay . This sounds just like Malibu and NIMBYS . BEACHES ARE PUBLIC PROPERTY. If rowers are using this beach . They are going have to show they ether own it or they have the only access permission . Which would go against public access codes .
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CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS


Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from
the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting
upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the
State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the
people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be
passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public
lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water
containing fish that have been planted therein by the State;

provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season
when and the conditions under which the different species of fish
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:11 PM   #19
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Was there on Sunday along with other kayakers, float tubers, we were all approached by a sheriff who informed us that we can no longer launch our vessels there. Vessels would include kayaks, outriggers, paddle boards, and float tubes. He told us the “no launching of vessels” rule has been in existence, it was just never enforced. The new lieutenant now in charge wants the law enforced because of complaints from other agency such as the harbor patrol and the coast guard who operate out of there about how crowded the parking has become affecting there ability to conduct businesses. He could not provide us with a different location to launch from. The parking rules will not change. If you are caught launching a “vessel” the fine will be $500.
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Old 06-26-2018, 02:42 PM   #20
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Reply from city of Newport

Hello,

This is actually county enforced at that beach- it is a county beach and county tidelands. I called them this morning and they spoke with their leaders. They informed me that a sticker would be placed over the part of the sign that says no launching and they would not be issuing citations. This should rectify the issue for you.

There is no commission meeting that this was discussed at on a city level as this is a county issue.

If you have further questions, please feel free to give the county dispatch a call at 949-723-1002.

If you have city related questions, please feel free to give me a call directly 949-718-3429.

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1600 W. Balboa Blvd. Newport Beach, CA 92663
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Jessica Allen Work in the Harbor Division for the City of Newport
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