Shores TResidents will meet to discuss aquatic businesses - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

alanw · 09-08-2014, 06:39 PM

Sounds like the city needs to spend the money they collect from the rental businesses to provide parking, or limit the rentals. Perhaps they can provide a park-n-ride during summer from an off-site parking area direct to the beach, and force all rental customers to use it. Also, as a business owner myself I have to pay rent on a building. They should charge the rental businesses by the footage they use on the beach, and only allocate a certain amount to be used for rentals.

I know what the residents are feeling. Here in Dana Point it blows to not be able to get beach parking in my own city during summer. It didn't used to be this way, but it's pretty bad now. It's probably worse in LaJolla. I prefer winters here now because of the tourists. Tourism helps line McDonald's pockets but I think it does little to make this a nicer city to live in.

GregAndrew · 09-08-2014, 07:31 PM

I don't have any problem with companies making money. But I do have a problem with them using large portions of in-demand public property as their personal storage facility. We have a very similar problem at the Redondo hand launch. A paddle board, and now branching out into other paddle and even sail craft, takes up much of the available space on the ramp and dock of the hand launch. In both cases, I don't mind the patrons using the areas for launch and landing as they are set aside for. But I have issues with giving more rights to public property to one person than another. The problem is that by this time the governing body probably already has their hands in the registers of the businesses in question. And they hate to give up money in their pockets.

mclanea · 09-08-2014, 10:05 PM

OK, this is related to an issue I had at LJ a few weeks ago. I had no problems doing drop off. Just pulled up and dropped my gear, my wife sat with the boats for the 20-30 min it took me to find parking and walk back.

We launched and returned, no problem. It was a Saturday, the beach launch area was PACKED with outfitters and big groups of people coming in and out. Like 20 kayaks at a time.

I dumped on the way in and an outfitter was very kind to help me out. No problem, everything was super awesome and we pulled our kayaks up on the beach away from the action. I was a little pissed that I dumped so I went back out and practiced, in and out, in and out. OK, no problems.

I walked the 8 blocks back to my car and started to make the drive back. When I got there I could see my wife was in the process of dragging our boats and all our gear basically up to the sidewalk, past the sandy turnaround loading/unloading zone. Did I mention we had a 3 year old with us? Yeah, dragging 13 foot boats and herding a toddler is a good time all by yourself. She was pissed.

"What's up?"

"A life guard came up and said I had to move. That I wasn't allowed to wait for you. I basically just got kicked off the beach."

We weren't too upset about it. It just didn't make any sense. Our stuff was just like 15 feet off the water and didn't seem to be in anyones way.

What did we do wrong? Are there like unwritten rules at LJ that I need to know about? There sure weren't any signs that said we were somewhere controlled by an outfitter.

Anyone?

09-08-2014, 06:39 PM	#1
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	Sounds like the city needs to spend the money they collect from the rental businesses to provide parking, or limit the rentals. Perhaps they can provide a park-n-ride during summer from an off-site parking area direct to the beach, and force all rental customers to use it. Also, as a business owner myself I have to pay rent on a building. They should charge the rental businesses by the footage they use on the beach, and only allocate a certain amount to be used for rentals. I know what the residents are feeling. Here in Dana Point it blows to not be able to get beach parking in my own city during summer. It didn't used to be this way, but it's pretty bad now. It's probably worse in LaJolla. I prefer winters here now because of the tourists. Tourism helps line McDonald's pockets but I think it does little to make this a nicer city to live in. __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe

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09-08-2014, 07:31 PM	#2
GregAndrew Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 2,384	I don't have any problem with companies making money. But I do have a problem with them using large portions of in-demand public property as their personal storage facility. We have a very similar problem at the Redondo hand launch. A paddle board, and now branching out into other paddle and even sail craft, takes up much of the available space on the ramp and dock of the hand launch. In both cases, I don't mind the patrons using the areas for launch and landing as they are set aside for. But I have issues with giving more rights to public property to one person than another. The problem is that by this time the governing body probably already has their hands in the registers of the businesses in question. And they hate to give up money in their pockets.

09-08-2014, 10:05 PM	#3
mclanea Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Rolando Posts: 85	OK, this is related to an issue I had at LJ a few weeks ago. I had no problems doing drop off. Just pulled up and dropped my gear, my wife sat with the boats for the 20-30 min it took me to find parking and walk back. We launched and returned, no problem. It was a Saturday, the beach launch area was PACKED with outfitters and big groups of people coming in and out. Like 20 kayaks at a time. I dumped on the way in and an outfitter was very kind to help me out. No problem, everything was super awesome and we pulled our kayaks up on the beach away from the action. I was a little pissed that I dumped so I went back out and practiced, in and out, in and out. OK, no problems. I walked the 8 blocks back to my car and started to make the drive back. When I got there I could see my wife was in the process of dragging our boats and all our gear basically up to the sidewalk, past the sandy turnaround loading/unloading zone. Did I mention we had a 3 year old with us? Yeah, dragging 13 foot boats and herding a toddler is a good time all by yourself. She was pissed. "What's up?" "A life guard came up and said I had to move. That I wasn't allowed to wait for you. I basically just got kicked off the beach." We weren't too upset about it. It just didn't make any sense. Our stuff was just like 15 feet off the water and didn't seem to be in anyones way. What did we do wrong? Are there like unwritten rules at LJ that I need to know about? There sure weren't any signs that said we were somewhere controlled by an outfitter. Anyone?