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Old 09-01-2015, 06:20 AM   #1
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:46 AM   #2
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I've been in my Revo 13 for about 6 months now and enjoy it. Is it perfect, no.
Does it have advantages, yes. Does it have limitations, yes. Coming from a tarpon 120, I find it a bit more involved and less simplistic, but I still can paddle the revo. Does it paddle as well as my old tarpon 120 or other kayaks that I've paddled, no.

Biggest pros: I can drink beer, eat a sandwich and pedal
Once hooked up, I can chase down a fish if needed. I can easily fish areas without using my drift chute, by utilizing the mirage drive.

Biggest cons: Kelp. I can still fish the kelp, but I have to pull some cords! Additional maintenance required with the mirage drive. I miss having storage access right in front of me vs the mirage drive.

Speed wise, I think its a toss up. I have the ST fins, not turbo and can troll no problem and can sprint if needed. Distance isn't an issue. But for those that have a fast hull design and know how to paddle, they can fly.

It's all preference.
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Old 09-01-2015, 06:50 AM   #3
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Trident 11 only 55 lbs. Werner Camano

I like the lightweight and ease of loading the kayak.

If your paddling technique gets efficient it is very pleasurable.

Easier handling the surf.

I agree with others to try both and decide but don't discount a paddle kayak.

The newer ones are getting better and better with more features also.
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Old 09-01-2015, 07:45 AM   #4
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I remember when the mirage drive first came out. They were pretty much universally ridiculed. "Theyre not kayaks, they're for sissies, they'll never catch on, the drive can't be reliable". Those attitudes didn't last long. Then for a while it seamed like most had Hobies. Many times at the launch out of 20 guys I had the only paddle yak. Now I see paddle yaks making a come back. Some times 50/50 at the launch. It might be that back then there were only 3 or so brands of paddle yaks that made fishing yaks, now there are many more. Might be more people are entering the sport and don't want to drop 2-4 k bucks for a yak. I have a hobie, a 13 y/o OK prowler 15, and a equally old Malibu extreme. Use em all n love em. Mike
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I remember when the mirage drive first came out. They were pretty much universally ridiculed. "Theyre not kayaks, they're for sissies, they'll never catch on, the drive can't be reliable". Those attitudes didn't last long. Then for a while it seamed like most had Hobies. Many times at the launch out of 20 guys I had the only paddle yak. Now I see paddle yaks making a come back. Some times 50/50 at the launch. It might be that back then there were only 3 or so brands of paddle yaks that made fishing yaks, now there are many more. Might be more people are entering the sport and don't want to drop 2-4 k bucks for a yak. I have a hobie, a 13 y/o OK prowler 15, and a equally old Malibu extreme. Use em all n love em. Mike
Total agree with this.

I recall fishing LJ back in 2009 in my OK Prowler and seeing Hobie kayaks peddling around, I was like, those guys are weak!


Less than a year later I had my first Hobie.
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Old 09-01-2015, 08:14 AM   #6
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Starting way back in 2006 Malibu and ocean kayaks were king. Prowler 15 and extremes being the ferrari's . Me in a tank of x-factor loved the stability of a starter kayak. Now in a revo the advantages far out way disadvantages. The revo paddles surprisingly well with the block in of course. PA are just to big to paddle and overkill in my opinion unless you 300+ plus pounds
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Starting way back in 2006 Malibu and ocean kayaks were king. Prowler 15 and extremes being the ferrari's . Me in a tank of x-factor loved the stability of a starter kayak. Now in a revo the advantages far out way disadvantages. The revo paddles surprisingly well with the block in of course. PA are just to big to paddle and overkill in my opinion unless you 300+ plus pounds

Have you ever owned a PA? I know guys that are under 200lbs and own and love PA's.
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Have you ever owned a PA? I know guys that are under 200lbs and own and love PA's.
I'm 175lbs and love my PA12. I started off lazy.
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Have you ever owned a PA? I know guys that are under 200lbs and own and love PA's.
no but have peddled one on more than a few occasions. Room is nice but is not really needed .know PA owners that want a smaller one way way easier to transport in smaller launch points can put a revo over my head with ease nobody can say that about at PA unless your Lou ferrigno
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no but have peddled one on more than a few occasions. Room is nice but is not really needed .know PA owners that want a smaller one way way easier to transport in smaller launch points can put a revo over my head with ease nobody can say that about at PA unless your Lou ferrigno

Or Bert Vega

I like the room and at my height and weight a revo just wouldnt work for me. Outback was pushing it. PA12 why not just get a 14? Been out 10 miles and done 30 miles in a day. It was tuff but could do it back to back days and I am not a spring chicken.
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Have you ever owned a PA? I know guys that are under 200lbs and own and love PA's.

I'm 150 lbs and love my PA. Also love my scrambler for quick after-work harbor runs and my Trident 15 for surf launch & landings
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Old 09-02-2015, 12:51 PM   #12
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Paddle AND peddle

Since we're on this topic of paddle vs pedal, is there anyone that does both simultaneously? I've never tried it (because I just recently purchased my PA12), but I was wondering if you kept the rudder up, and you paddled and pedaled simultaneously, what would the outcome be? Obviously, an increase in speed would be a byproduct, but what about longevity? Do you think you could get to locations farther out offshore? Do you think it would help maintain stamina, or exhaust you faster? Do you think you could do both without the kayak tracking to one side or the other? Just curious if any of you guys that own a kayak with a mirage drive has ever tried this?
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Since we're on this topic of paddle vs pedal, is there anyone that does both simultaneously? I've never tried it (because I just recently purchased my PA12), but I was wondering if you kept the rudder up, and you paddled and pedaled simultaneously, what would the outcome be? Obviously, an increase in speed would be a byproduct, but what about longevity? Do you think you could get to locations farther out offshore? Do you think it would help maintain stamina, or exhaust you faster? Do you think you could do both without the kayak tracking to one side or the other? Just curious if any of you guys that own a kayak with a mirage drive has ever tried this?
LOOK at CWC new video posted today, Wade is doing both at the same time and at a pretty good clip with his wife aboard.
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LOOK at CWC new video posted today, Wade is doing both at the same time and at a pretty good clip with his wife aboard.
Pardon my ignorance, but what is CWC?
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Pardon my ignorance, but what is CWC?
Go to Fishing posts on this site the #2 post is titled NO SEA LIONS IN SIGHT by C.W.C. Check it out
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Old 09-02-2015, 02:13 PM   #16
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Since we're on this topic of paddle vs pedal, is there anyone that does both simultaneously? I've never tried it (because I just recently purchased my PA12), but I was wondering if you kept the rudder up, and you paddled and pedaled simultaneously, what would the outcome be? Obviously, an increase in speed would be a byproduct, but what about longevity? Do you think you could get to locations farther out offshore? Do you think it would help maintain stamina, or exhaust you faster? Do you think you could do both without the kayak tracking to one side or the other? Just curious if any of you guys that own a kayak with a mirage drive has ever tried this?
Coming back from fishing Cabrillo Harbor, the wind and chop was so strong I had to do both in my outback. (standard drive) It was exhausting, but was the only way to make any headway. About 3/4 of a mile. If I stopped I would get pushed back. Not fun.
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