F**KING A$$HOLES

[dmrides]

When I used to kayak, I would frequently pick up other people's trash and I wouldn't tell others what I had done or call anyone names.

Now that I have a boat, I intentionally drive by the launch at full speed trying to tip as many kayakers as possible while throwing out all my used squid bags, empty beer bottles and a full spool of used mono just for good measure.

[Deamon]

Originally Posted by dmrides

When I used to kayak,

Now that I have a boat,

SON OF A BITCH...there we go...an out of the closet turncoat. Moderators! Please ban Darren FOREVER!

Jim

[ctfphoto]

It is also very possible that the culprit is a seagull.

I don't know how many times I have seen seagull stealing stuff off of kayaks and flying away with the "trash" in his mouth, I can't count that high.

[ful-rac]

Boy....

This post sure didn't go over well...

[Silbaugh4liberty]

It's Obama's fault! If he didn't create such a welfare environment, the damn seagulls would learn to find their food the old fashioned way and pay their fare share!!!!

[maquinapescado]

So I blasted this out with a little anger and closed my computer second to my wife telling me; I let people bother me too much, invest too much time into this stupid site, never deliver a message well when aggravated, people never receive a message that comes from such a poor response, and then proceeded to point out seventy or more chinks in my armor. Being stubborn, I decided to post it anyway.

In response to cbad mike, my intention is not directed at you or "every member" on BWE, but I hardly think any kayak fisherman would have received my message if I posted this in my knitting club.

If people want to take this as an attack and I knew people on HERE would, I was fully ready to accept responsibility for my crass response to the trash.

MOMO, I don't have a high horse, I have an intolerance for people who litter. Five BWE members that I know of walked by it all and there were some 20+ kayaks on the water who I am sure used the launch. It was impossible to not have to step over it. The trash could have been picked up. I am perfectly okay with being the one that did and don't expect to hear about every piece of trash that gets picked up nor will I complain about it every time. I am also not trying to be a self proclaimed martyr about it.

I get it, it might not have been you or anyone who responded to this.

I can guarantee that at least a couple articles of that trash were left by someone who surveys (power boater or kayak) this sight for intel or is a member. As mentioned above, I can also guarantee that some members walked past it.

My less than choice words and approach that comprised my message will hopefully be heard but most importantly remembered, either through me being the butt of the situation or because others are as passionate about their environment and littering as I am and just needed a reminder to be an advocate.

I am part of the kayak-fisherman boom and with any growing population within an activity/sport, new people come along and need to be aware of things like this. Sometimes, existing members of the community just need a kick in the rear. I deal with it with the explosion of rock climbing and people trashing Joshua Tree, Yosemite and other climbing spots due to a lack of education on how sensitive the environment really is. If someone wants to post a nice thread about it, go for it. Considering the shit I have received for benign and polite posts or questions on this site, I am not willing to be that person. I am nice, compassionate and caring to people who are often hostile in my occupation on a daily basis. In my opinion, they have the right to be second to mental illness, fear of impending death and other various disease processes. Being a crabby kayak fisherman, website/keyboard bully or any other variation of being impolite on here does not merit a polite public service announcement from me.

If you received this message in an ill way, I am sincerely sorry to those who are polite, respectful and informative on here.

[Deamon]

Let's settle this old school way...bring your jig sticks down to LJ along with your favorite iron and go at it. I'm pretty sure I can take some mofo's out. Saturday morning, sunrise? Jim

[driftwood]

Originally Posted by Deamon

Let's settle this old school way...bring your jig sticks down to LJ along with your favorite iron and go at it. I'm pretty sure I can take some mofo's out. Saturday morning, sunrise? Jim

LOL!! way to funny Jim, had me belly up laughing.

Ok lets do this. I got Greg trompas on my team. who you got?

[ful-rac]

[Kayak_Bernie]

I always pick up trash while out on the water or at the launch, just something I do, never felt I needed to get credit for it. I think that people who are lazy and liter are indeed Effing A-Holes... However I think that some of this could be blamed on the Seagulls, the trash cans around LJ Shores are stuffed by Sunday afternoon and the seagulls are nice enough to de-stuff them on Monday morning and spread garbage all over the beach. If you actually SEE someone leave there garbage on the beach feel free to call them out, but don't always assume the worst in people, pick up the trash and throw it away... Just my two cents

[ful-rac]

[maquinapescado]

Of the un-photographed trash:

About 30 yards of mono attached to about ten feet of braid. Had a terrible looking uni-knot I might add.

One tangled sabiki.

Empty Owner Aki Twist 5/0 package

And a cigar butt...................Jim lol

I would love to know it was seagulls but the fact of the matter is, some of it is most definitely not.

As far as your jig contest goes Jim. I'd lose. In fear of having a casting battle on the water and from recent on the water shootings, I just started bringing my mako gaff, a.k.a. .357

[WARRIORMIKE]

So in my office if someone leaves trash out after their lunch break, I generally throw it out for them. I don't believe in calling them out, or get them out of their cubicle and tell them to pick up their trash. Not my style.

However I have a co-worker that at any opportunity he is glad to call people out. For trash, or really anything.

Point is, there will always be the yin-yang of things. Unfortunately just the way life is .

[Flyak13]

So there was a time a few years ago that I regarded kayak fisherman as a bad ass breed of fisherman, you are your own captain, surf launch and landing, catching big fish in a tiny boat half the time all by yourself, what the heck happened ? A bunch of whiny little girls , complaining about having to pick up trash, , complaining about private boaters, complaining about the fish not biting , complaining about turning in wsb heads when you've caught ONE your entire life, shut the fuck up , go fuxking fishing and stop being a bunch of pussies on the Internet, And this goes Out to that jackass too that sits on his computer staring at the launch cam then tries to blast about a wide open bite because some guys took pics with some fish, GROW THE FUCK UP AND STOP ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF PANZIES and go fishing !

[Pocoloco]

Originally Posted by maquinapescado

So I blasted this out with a little anger and closed my computer second to my wife telling me; I let people bother me too much, invest too much time into this stupid site, never deliver a message well when aggravated, people never receive a message that comes from such a poor response, and then proceeded to point out seventy or more chinks in my armor. Being stubborn, I decided to post it anyway.

In response to cbad mike, my intention is not directed at you or "every member" on BWE, but I hardly think any kayak fisherman would have received my message if I posted this in my knitting club.

If people want to take this as an attack and I knew people on HERE would, I was fully ready to accept responsibility for my crass response to the trash.

MOMO, I don't have a high horse, I have an intolerance for people who litter. Five BWE members that I know of walked by it all and there were some 20+ kayaks on the water who I am sure used the launch. It was impossible to not have to step over it. The trash could have been picked up. I am perfectly okay with being the one that did and don't expect to hear about every piece of trash that gets picked up nor will I complain about it every time. I am also not trying to be a self proclaimed martyr about it.

I get it, it might not have been you or anyone who responded to this.

I can guarantee that at least a couple articles of that trash were left by someone who surveys (power boater or kayak) this sight for intel or is a member. As mentioned above, I can also guarantee that some members walked past it.

My less than choice words and approach that comprised my message will hopefully be heard but most importantly remembered, either through me being the butt of the situation or because others are as passionate about their environment and littering as I am and just needed a reminder to be an advocate.

I am part of the kayak-fisherman boom and with any growing population within an activity/sport, new people come along and need to be aware of things like this. Sometimes, existing members of the community just need a kick in the rear. I deal with it with the explosion of rock climbing and people trashing Joshua Tree, Yosemite and other climbing spots due to a lack of education on how sensitive the environment really is. If someone wants to post a nice thread about it, go for it. Considering the shit I have received for benign and polite posts or questions on this site, I am not willing to be that person. I am nice, compassionate and caring to people who are often hostile in my occupation on a daily basis. In my opinion, they have the right to be second to mental illness, fear of impending death and other various disease processes. Being a crabby kayak fisherman, website/keyboard bully or any other variation of being impolite on here does not merit a polite public service announcement from me.

If you received this message in an ill way, I am sincerely sorry to those who are polite, respectful and informative on here.

don't sweat it too much, we have the same problem at our ducks refuge and no one is to blame. just keep doing your part and hopefully things will get better.