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Old 07-19-2008, 01:45 PM   #1
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I thought all signs on Public property needed a sign permit?
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Old 07-19-2008, 02:01 PM   #2
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I thought all signs on Public property needed a sign permit?
Maybe they do have a permit, because She had a Camp set up with a table, under a large umbrella, loaded with propaganda literature.

Everything pouring from her mouth was negative, as she accused people of harassing the seals. (none of which was taking place)

It was funny to watch her holding the video camera in one hand, while passing around a clipboard with the other.

Some people signed to Her agenda, others familiar with Her spiel walked right by.
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Old 07-19-2008, 04:22 PM   #3
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It would be ironic... no... funny... no... righteous for someone to file an official civil suit against the actual individual/s that are pestering people on public beaches. I am offended and have made that clear, and yet these individuals continue to harass myself and others despite the court orders. They seem to like to disregard the courts rulings, and since it is hard to get a contempt order in this situation a civil case seems like just the ticket! Maybe they would not be so quick and brave when they're wallets have been emptied a couple times! Oh wait, then they might have to fish to eat! This could be fun!lol
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Old 07-19-2008, 09:47 PM   #4
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Children's Pool

Great shots of people actually using this public beach. I wonder where the seals went. When I was a kid, the seals were around, but kept to themselves over on Seal Rock, a bit north of the beach. Seal Rock is a preserve set aside for the seals. They were regular visitors to the Casa but slept, (and pooped) on the rock.

At some point over that last 20 years, they took up residence on the beach and someone decided that they were more important than the humans for whom this man made beach was built. I do not know the details as to how this came to be but it would be interesting to learn the history. If anyone knows, please post.

In response to Billy V's question, I do not have a key to the Casa ramp gate. I used to but they have changed the locks.

I am waiting for a response to my email to the Lifeguard Chief, Ken Hewitt, in which I asked for a clarification of the rules regarding launching kayaks from this site. Ken is a reasonable guy but he has to go by the rules. Should it turn out that the rules prohibit using this beach as a launch site, I would like to suggest that we try to get the rules changed.

I have two thoughts on this subject. The easiest solution would be to get our government, (remember, they supposedly work for us), to specifically aprove launching kayaks at the Casa. There is going to be a bunch of work done to the facilities there at some point. The lifeguard tower has been closed because it is falling apart. This facility will probably be rebuilt and upgraded. The beach is also supposed to be dredged to clean up the seal poop which has made the water in this area unsafe for human contact. As part of this upgrade, we could lobby that a dedicated kayak access be created.

The other option is that while they are reconstructing the lifeguard tower, they add a ramp to the beach on the south side of the sea wall. There is a stairway there now but stairways are not very kayak friendly. This access is not as sheltered as the Childrend's Pool beach, especially during the winter but it would be better than nothing.

I may be tilting at windmills but I think that if the kayak user community bands together we could make this happen. I will try to get things started. Is anyone else interested in helping out?

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Old 07-22-2008, 07:40 PM   #5
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I may be tilting at windmills but I think that if the kayak user community bands together we could make this happen. I will try to get things started. Is anyone else interested in helping out?

Bob
The more places we can launch the better. Let me know what I can do.
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Old 07-22-2008, 08:45 PM   #6
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With the impending MLPA closures you may want to wait and see if we have anywhere to fish within 5 miles of LJ before getting another launch site.
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Old 07-23-2008, 10:09 AM   #7
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I once manned the seal watching umbrella with a girl I knew for her college credit (gimme a break, you know why....). It was pretty much a joke. They make you write in this log book all the happenings of the day and any harassment that takes place. You are also responsible for "strongly suggesting" that people don't cross an arbitrary rope line that was there at the time (and also repairing damage to said rope line when people don't take your suggestion). Those people have no real authority or power, they're citizens just like the rest of the people on the beach. Pretty lame. And it wasn't even worth it lol
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