Your Public comment has helped!!!!!!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

zenspearo · 05-22-2009, 07:09 PM

There is no question that the gain we had in the last few days was due in no small part to the overwhelming kayak fishing turn out, particularly for places like La Jolla. You guys were simply impressive and the vibes, the applause, the sea of black shirts, it provides a glimpse of what we all can do together here.

I have some thoughts (okay, a beer helped, but I figure I'd jot it down before I forget).

In preparation for the roadshow workshops, all of us consumptives have to OWN the language used to discuss these issues and don't let the other side put labels on us. That has gone on for too long to our detriment.

First issue:

There are only two types of maps now. NOT fisherman maps and environmentalist maps. NO NO NO. By saying "fisherman map" and "environmentalist maps" we already alienated ourselves with the non-fishing public and elevated the fanatics to the "environmentalist" label.

NO NO NO

We are the conservationists, the ones who fund to preserve and promote habitat via our fishing license fees, dammit.

When we speak up for a map, there are balanced maps (one that balances fishing interests with MLPA goals) and there are extreme maps (one that shuts out all fishing holes and put out businesses). We urge the adoption of the balanced maps, and we reject the extreme maps. Agree?

Second Issue: The extremists will say that the economic pain due to closure is only short term. "Short term economic pain". This is how the latte-sipping crowd can diminish the pain felt by our community and the businesses they will shut down. As John Maynard Keynes would say "In the long run, we are all dead."

A strong point that we need to counter is there is no such thing as a short-term economic pain when you are the one getting wrecked. Look into the eyes of a young child whose father you are about to put out of business and go bankrupt and tell them it's only short-term. Look at a 60-year-old man with his whole life tied into his business, barely making payroll, and tell him "don't worry, it's only short-term pain."

There are other strategic issues that need to be synchronized among our communities to make sure that when we jointly fire up our cannons on June 29th, our rounds will hit the targets square on and hit hard and hit repeatedly.

June 29th and June 30th are La Jolla's do-or-die time. Let's work together.

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05-22-2009, 07:09 PM	#6
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	There is no question that the gain we had in the last few days was due in no small part to the overwhelming kayak fishing turn out, particularly for places like La Jolla. You guys were simply impressive and the vibes, the applause, the sea of black shirts, it provides a glimpse of what we all can do together here. I have some thoughts (okay, a beer helped, but I figure I'd jot it down before I forget). In preparation for the roadshow workshops, all of us consumptives have to OWN the language used to discuss these issues and don't let the other side put labels on us. That has gone on for too long to our detriment. First issue: There are only two types of maps now. NOT fisherman maps and environmentalist maps. NO NO NO. By saying "fisherman map" and "environmentalist maps" we already alienated ourselves with the non-fishing public and elevated the fanatics to the "environmentalist" label. NO NO NO We are the conservationists, the ones who fund to preserve and promote habitat via our fishing license fees, dammit. When we speak up for a map, there are balanced maps (one that balances fishing interests with MLPA goals) and there are extreme maps (one that shuts out all fishing holes and put out businesses). We urge the adoption of the balanced maps, and we reject the extreme maps. Agree? Second Issue: The extremists will say that the economic pain due to closure is only short term. "Short term economic pain". This is how the latte-sipping crowd can diminish the pain felt by our community and the businesses they will shut down. As John Maynard Keynes would say "In the long run, we are all dead." A strong point that we need to counter is there is no such thing as a short-term economic pain when you are the one getting wrecked. Look into the eyes of a young child whose father you are about to put out of business and go bankrupt and tell them it's only short-term. Look at a 60-year-old man with his whole life tied into his business, barely making payroll, and tell him "don't worry, it's only short-term pain." There are other strategic issues that need to be synchronized among our communities to make sure that when we jointly fire up our cannons on June 29th, our rounds will hit the targets square on and hit hard and hit repeatedly. June 29th and June 30th are La Jolla's do-or-die time. Let's work together.