LJ Current Parking Situation? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

comrad_zeelaagee · 07-18-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

The days of parking there are no longer.. It's been "green curbed". 15 min loading/unloading til 6pm..

that's what i was looking for- thank you.

Iceman · 07-18-2009, 06:55 PM

The sign was not put there by the city, it was posted by the Life guard.

dsafety · 07-18-2009, 08:49 PM

The Lifeguards work for the City. I would be surprised if they would be authorized to create a sign such as this one and change the rules of access on their own.

While I agree that with the current soft sand conditions and nearly unmanageable traffic, limiting access to four wheel drive vehicles may be reasonable. It just does not seem like something the Lifeguards would be allowed to do on their own. I worked for them for many years and we were never given that kind of authority.

Maybe things have changed.

Bob

Joe11 · 07-19-2009, 02:04 PM

Although probably well intentioned, if anybody is cited by somebody using that sign to support the issuance of that citation tell the person issuing the citation that you will be requesting a public hearing. That is not an official sign and it does not have the CVC or Municipal Code that would declare the beach a 4X4 zone only.

1Flatfish · 07-19-2009, 05:25 PM

My guess is that the sign is for public service telling people that you might get stuck if you don't have 4 wheel drive. The sign wasn't there early Saturday morning. I know, I was there. I drove onto the sand. I got stuck. I called AAA, but they never showed up. I believe nearly everyone offered to help push me out, but I assured everyone that help was on the way. An hour and a half later, I was still stuck. When I finally got out (with the help of three good samaritans), I packed my gear back in my truck and went back home with my tail between my legs. When the sand is packed and safe to drive on again, maybe the sign will go away.

Billy V · 07-19-2009, 07:42 PM

The sign was probably put there by the lifeguard in an attempt to get people to use common sense.
-an exercise in futility

However, many people did pause and load at the curb, myself included.

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When I returned from fishing that day the sign was already there. I just dragged my kayak in the sand (no wheels) and carried it over to the truck.
Its easier than you might think.

It took a couple of extra trips to grab the rods, and bait tank, but its better than being the guy who gets stuck next to the goofy sign.

-scallywag- · 07-20-2009, 10:35 AM

Someone please post a picture of the signs right next to the launch....i'm pretty sure it says 4x4 only on an "official" sign

...probably right next to the "no commercial activities" sign....

07-18-2009, 06:55 PM	#2
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	The sign was not put there by the city, it was posted by the Life guard. __________________

07-19-2009, 05:25 PM	#5
1Flatfish Wayne Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Carlsbad, CA Posts: 98	4 x 4s My guess is that the sign is for public service telling people that you might get stuck if you don't have 4 wheel drive. The sign wasn't there early Saturday morning. I know, I was there. I drove onto the sand. I got stuck. I called AAA, but they never showed up. I believe nearly everyone offered to help push me out, but I assured everyone that help was on the way. An hour and a half later, I was still stuck. When I finally got out (with the help of three good samaritans), I packed my gear back in my truck and went back home with my tail between my legs. When the sand is packed and safe to drive on again, maybe the sign will go away.

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07-18-2009, 08:49 PM	#3
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	The Lifeguards work for the City. I would be surprised if they would be authorized to create a sign such as this one and change the rules of access on their own. While I agree that with the current soft sand conditions and nearly unmanageable traffic, limiting access to four wheel drive vehicles may be reasonable. It just does not seem like something the Lifeguards would be allowed to do on their own. I worked for them for many years and we were never given that kind of authority. Maybe things have changed. Bob

07-19-2009, 02:04 PM	#4
Joe11 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Riverside County Posts: 30	Although probably well intentioned, if anybody is cited by somebody using that sign to support the issuance of that citation tell the person issuing the citation that you will be requesting a public hearing. That is not an official sign and it does not have the CVC or Municipal Code that would declare the beach a 4X4 zone only.

07-19-2009, 07:42 PM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	The sign was probably put there by the lifeguard in an attempt to get people to use common sense. -an exercise in futility However, many people did pause and load at the curb, myself included. -------------------------- When I returned from fishing that day the sign was already there. I just dragged my kayak in the sand (no wheels) and carried it over to the truck. Its easier than you might think. It took a couple of extra trips to grab the rods, and bait tank, but its better than being the guy who gets stuck next to the goofy sign.

07-20-2009, 10:35 AM	#7
-scallywag- Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: on the road... Posts: 598	Someone please post a picture of the signs right next to the launch....i'm pretty sure it says 4x4 only on an "official" sign ...probably right next to the "no commercial activities" sign....