they might be back some day.

[Matt]

@#$#@ you, you $%^&$#@ #$%* %#&*$!!!!! Fill in the blanks ya got my drift!!

[Tman]

I think I saw Meg at the supermarket the other day, complaining about the plastic wrap job on the fish she was gonna buy...

She was unhappy, thought the plastic wrap was too tight...

[The Kid]

They're not gonna stop me i don't care what they say we'll see what happens. I do not think they are going to have anyone enforce it. I mean who enforces the current MPA. Haha i hope they read this, can't wait to see them out there. I don't care if i set a bad example, I am to young to care. So f*** the law i will still be catching yellows and white seabass. If I get fined i hope it gets put in the paper so all those who have no idea what is going on can see that we are getting SCREWED. Peace

[esdees]

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

[robmandel]

Originally Posted by esdees

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

same place they came up with all the BS global warming data.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/74019.html

Official government measurements show that the world's temperature has cooled a bit since reaching its most recent peak in 1998.

it's about fear, it's about politics. it's about MONEY!!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...llionaire.html

Last year Mr Gore's venture capital firm loaned a small California firm $75m to develop energy-saving technology.


The company, Silver Spring Networks, produces hardware and software to make the electricity grid more efficient.



The deal appeared to pay off in a big way last week, when the Energy Department announced $3.4 billion in smart grid grants, the New York Times reports. Of the total, more than $560 million went to utilities with which Silver Spring has contracts.

folks, this isn't about a bunch of yahoos (please, no offense intended by me) on plastics rafts fishing for a few scaly creatures. this is way freaking bigger. the environmental movement is nothing about the "environment" but about destruction of freedom and capitalism.

[-scallywag-]

I was reading into the the fine print last night and realized that the citys in which these MPA are placed could be held financially responsible for run off pollution and sewer spills that affect the MPA's water quality. I'm afraid to see what will happen when the MPA's don't reach thier stated goals in five years...its gonna be like "see, told ya so! we need more closeures! get those wetsuit pee'in, body oil leachin, stingray killin surfers outta there, and all those people on the beach leave thier trash and pollute the water....get'um all outta here!!! (but please don't worry about my malibu estaite's septic system that leaches human waste directly into the maibu creekbed and closes the whole area everytime it rains...)"

[bluesquids]

But.. but...if all the fishermeanies could just become vegans...Ya Know?
Then all the fishies can swim and be happy, because ...Ya know you can't plant seeds inside poor little fishies Ovaries like you can just plant tomato seeds.
Seriously, any vegan should not of been let in thru the door. PETA types should not have a say in the outcome. People in the world eat meat! GET OVER IT!
Oh...and BTW regarding WSB ovaries...
Fecundity determined from artificial propagation attempts (CDFG 1994) ranges from 760,000 to 1.5 million eggs per female, per batch (CDF&G 2002),

and some females have been reported to spawn more than once per season (CDF&G 2002).

[driftwood]

Originally Posted by esdees

"Populations of lobster, sea urchin, squid, sea bass, yellowtail and swordfish have all been in sharp decline."

Really? Where did they come up with that?

"restrictions to help restore species, catches of which have dropped up to 95%."

were did they come up wth this?? 95% dropped?

[habanero]

I think they get all their "facts" from pier and dock fishing experts.

[Pescavore1]

Originally Posted by driftwood

"restrictions to help restore species, catches of which have dropped up to 95%."

were did they come up wth this?? 95% dropped?

It's a blatant lie and a propaganda. I'm pretty sure they know this fact: if you tell a lie and keep repeating it, no matter how big the lie is, people will eventually come to believe it.

[Ohana]

Originally Posted by Pescavore1

It's a blatant lie and a propaganda. I'm pretty sure they know this fact: if you tell a lie and keep repeating it, no matter how big the lie is, people will eventually come to believe it.

This is so true. In political battle facts/statistics are part of the footnotes and influencing emotions wins the war. A lot of organizations supporting the MPA also funded the drive to stop using animals for drug testing; regardless of what you show in numbers such as millions of lives were saved but 50 lab rats were killed, all it takes is one picture of an animal in a lab cage with a tube in its body to sway peoples emotions (= voters) to support a ban on such testing. So they know what to do to get political support for their position.


Kevin