Watch out for the DFG guy. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

T Bone · 06-04-2010, 11:40 AM

I have sharpied a ruler on both sides of my kayak with marks at 13-22-28"

I think they should crackdown on all guys fishing on the breakwall in NPH.they have no licence and keep everything regardless of size-season-etc.You all know who I am talking about...

jimbo · 06-04-2010, 12:11 PM

I believe the CA law requires you have a net if you are targeting halibut. It's been a long time since I read that Reg and it never made sense to me b/c how can you prove you are or are not targeting a specific species. Maybe somebody else who has it fresher in their memory or somebody with a law degree can set the record straight.

I don't think PFD, horn, flares, type IV (throwable), and light requirements apply to yaks b/c it's they are not technically a "vessel" but rather a water sport device(that's why they don't require CF #s). But I definitely think lights are great idea voluntarily - it can be hard to see yaks from a boat. OEX sells waterproof Scotty lights that fit in the deck and are easily removable and pretty cheap. They don't require any wiring - 2 alkaline batteries. You could even clip a glow stick to a rod tip.

467echo · 06-04-2010, 12:21 PM

Ran into them a few times this year @ LJ, just wish I had a reason for them to inspect my license if ya know what I mean!!

They seem pretty chill to me.

danny · 06-05-2010, 10:29 PM

The DFG here is not bad at all. The ones in WA state suck just plan a holes. I had never been fishing there and was trying to catch a trout and got a ticket for salmon. I was at fort lewis and had never fished there before. The guys here are great I have got some great tips from them. They are state workers and have plenty to be pissed about.

gilrockit · 06-07-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by T Bone

I have sharpied a ruler on both sides of my kayak with marks at 13-22-28"

I think they should crackdown on all guys fishing on the breakwall in NPH.they have no licence and keep everything regardless of size-season-etc.You all know who I am talking about...

Just last week I saw some guys at NPH from my kayak taking short Halibut! it ticked me off! Whats the number to fish and game for poachers!!!!!

fishinkid2010 · 06-07-2010, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gilrockit

Whats the number to fish and game for poachers!!!!!

1888 DFG-CALTIP
18883342258

When it comes to polluters, DFG is useless. I called them once to report a ton of pollution in the SD river in Santee, and they simply told me its not their problem, and that I should contact the city.

Gino · 06-07-2010, 06:38 PM

Gil, was it guys in a rental skiff? The guys on the jetty as well as the Rental skiff guys are pretty damn bad.

Can Harbor Patrol enforce Fish and Game regulations? Poachers at Newport are rampant.

Aaron · 06-07-2010, 07:33 PM

A lot of the surveyors are associated with NOAA and not the DFG and thus no fear in reporting your catch. But there should be no fear anyways. You should know the regs well enough to not break the rules with whatever it is you're doing.

Its a big deal that they get accurate catch information. At a conference I was at recently, they were talking about the problems associated with not haven't a level of precision in data collection for the recreational take of fish like they do for the commercial fleet. Its like anything in science, as the "n" gets smaller, the standard deviation most commonly gets bigger and the tendancy for the California legislature is to use the most "conservative" estimate (most restrictive) when deciding on matters such as the MPA's. There was even talk of using sportboat daily reports as a means of data collection. Its a good thing those are NEVER inflated

. Be as precise as possible with those people. Accurate data beats the absence of data every time for us as fisherman, takes a lot of the leeway out of bending data during decision making.

gilrockit · 06-07-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Gino

Gil, was it guys in a rental skiff? The guys on the jetty as well as the Rental skiff guys are pretty damn bad.

Can Harbor Patrol enforce Fish and Game regulations? Poachers at Newport are rampant.

No, the guys I'm talking about are always on the short pier in the main channel, I know its a fishing spot by the cost guard station. I watched them take short fish back to their cars many times. It fires me up

!!!!!!

Hunters Pa · 06-08-2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by gilrockit

No, the guys I'm talking about are always on the short pier in the main channel, I know its a fishing spot by the cost guard station. I watched them take short fish back to their cars many times. It fires me up

!!!!!!

I have heard of people having their vehicles confiscated as well as their gear when they do this

Siebler · 06-08-2010, 09:29 AM

I have only had run ins with 1 warden who for some reason decided He did not like me, see him at least once a year (usually hunting) and he does everything short of a cavity search. Even though i dont care for him I still let him check everything because It is nice to see these guys out there doing their job and protecting our resources.

For those of us that do support the 385 wardens that patrol our state may I suggest this: http://dfg.ca.gov/WardenStamp/

Aaron · 06-08-2010, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Siebler

For those of us that do support the 385 wardens that patrol our state may I suggest this: http://dfg.ca.gov/WardenStamp/

$5 is pretty cheap for a get out of jail free card. I'm ordering at least one

Siebler · 06-08-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sapdawg711

$5 is pretty cheap for a get out of jail free card. I'm ordering at least one

That was somewhat my thought too. One for the truck and one for the duck boat....

06-04-2010, 11:40 AM	#1
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	I have sharpied a ruler on both sides of my kayak with marks at 13-22-28" I think they should crackdown on all guys fishing on the breakwall in NPH.they have no licence and keep everything regardless of size-season-etc.You all know who I am talking about... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

06-04-2010, 12:11 PM	#2
jimbo Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: san diego Posts: 97	net requirement I believe the CA law requires you have a net if you are targeting halibut. It's been a long time since I read that Reg and it never made sense to me b/c how can you prove you are or are not targeting a specific species. Maybe somebody else who has it fresher in their memory or somebody with a law degree can set the record straight. I don't think PFD, horn, flares, type IV (throwable), and light requirements apply to yaks b/c it's they are not technically a "vessel" but rather a water sport device(that's why they don't require CF #s). But I definitely think lights are great idea voluntarily - it can be hard to see yaks from a boat. OEX sells waterproof Scotty lights that fit in the deck and are easily removable and pretty cheap. They don't require any wiring - 2 alkaline batteries. You could even clip a glow stick to a rod tip. __________________ that's why they call it fishing

06-04-2010, 12:21 PM	#3
467echo Rookie of the Month Club Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mira Mesa Posts: 483	Ran into them a few times this year @ LJ, just wish I had a reason for them to inspect my license if ya know what I mean!! They seem pretty chill to me. __________________ they are getting bigger....

06-08-2010, 09:29 AM	#11
Siebler Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Richland Oregon Posts: 1,547	I have only had run ins with 1 warden who for some reason decided He did not like me, see him at least once a year (usually hunting) and he does everything short of a cavity search. Even though i dont care for him I still let him check everything because It is nice to see these guys out there doing their job and protecting our resources. For those of us that do support the 385 wardens that patrol our state may I suggest this: http://dfg.ca.gov/WardenStamp/ __________________ CJ Siebler

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06-05-2010, 10:29 PM	#4
danny Danny Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 70	The DFG here is not bad at all. The ones in WA state suck just plan a holes. I had never been fishing there and was trying to catch a trout and got a ticket for salmon. I was at fort lewis and had never fished there before. The guys here are great I have got some great tips from them. They are state workers and have plenty to be pissed about.

06-07-2010, 06:38 PM	#7
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	Gil, was it guys in a rental skiff? The guys on the jetty as well as the Rental skiff guys are pretty damn bad. Can Harbor Patrol enforce Fish and Game regulations? Poachers at Newport are rampant.

06-07-2010, 07:33 PM	#8
Aaron Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 175	A lot of the surveyors are associated with NOAA and not the DFG and thus no fear in reporting your catch. But there should be no fear anyways. You should know the regs well enough to not break the rules with whatever it is you're doing. Its a big deal that they get accurate catch information. At a conference I was at recently, they were talking about the problems associated with not haven't a level of precision in data collection for the recreational take of fish like they do for the commercial fleet. Its like anything in science, as the "n" gets smaller, the standard deviation most commonly gets bigger and the tendancy for the California legislature is to use the most "conservative" estimate (most restrictive) when deciding on matters such as the MPA's. There was even talk of using sportboat daily reports as a means of data collection. Its a good thing those are NEVER inflated . Be as precise as possible with those people. Accurate data beats the absence of data every time for us as fisherman, takes a lot of the leeway out of bending data during decision making.