MLPA Public Comment! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

blackcloud9 · 10-20-2010, 06:20 AM

I will be there.

old_rookie · 10-20-2010, 01:40 PM

Sorry guys I had to leave early for a dr appt and x-rays.
At least I got to meet a few of you.
There were some good speakers representing our community.
Didn't know we have coral reefs off our coast in San Diego

FISHIONADO · 10-20-2010, 01:41 PM

Good turn out, thanks everyone who showed up or spoke on our behalf.

hatchetman · 10-20-2010, 03:16 PM

This was my first experience with the process, I really did not understand how deceitful the enviros like cost keepers are. I was sitting in the middle of the audience towards the back where most of the bussed in students ended up.
One group, i believe from south west high, did not even know why they were there, in fact they started picking up the signs left from the waterman's alliance and started holding them up until one of their chaperons scolded them. The charter school children really showed how well informed our opposition is, These cute children brought in there dioramas of coral reefs and gave speeches on why we need to save the ones of our coast, I did not think we had coral reefs. coast keepers should be ashamed of them selves for exploiting our children and the school districts involved should be looking at disciplinary action against the teachers.

Billy V · 10-20-2010, 03:34 PM

Yes - the eco nazis have exploited young children throughout this BS process.

They were literally handing out candy to the children during some of the meetings.
-Creepy

---Today I noticed at times their chaperone / guardian ( an English Teacher) had lost possession and became separated from the children.
-An offense punishable by firing.
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mrJB · 10-20-2010, 03:45 PM

What an enlightening experience - to hear about our coastal coral reefs AND to find out where my tax dollars for education are going...!

Tman · 10-20-2010, 05:36 PM

That was hilarious. Clay and his buddy Julian were cracking up...pretty pathetic that a teacher is teaching her students that, having them spend all that time on their diaramas, extra work for an extra grade, just to be humiliated. I agree, that teacher should be admonished.
Pretty sad, even the boys were commenting on where coral reefs were, naming the places. Guess they are getting a better education...

Mr. Richards was classic...

(Not verbatim)

"So, there are 7 areas that are not sandy bottoms? And are there reserves put in place for each of those 7 areas?"

I agree again Adi, hilarious that these people who have (supposedly) been working so hard kept stumbling with their words trying to answer his simple question, and the final comment from the gal was even more pathetic when she complained that she wasn't aware that he was going to ask such a difficult question...maybe because you people have been used to rehearsing the question and answer period!

Just shows the bs we are up against.

Great seeing familiar faces, Waterman's Alliance, thanks for the grub...

To all of the Kids that spoke...

Each and every one of you showed more knowledge, more courage, and spoke better than any of the misinformed children that spoke, you should be very proud for standing up for your rights, we are very proud of you.

Thank you...

AquaticHunter · 10-20-2010, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V

Yes - the eco nazis have exploited young children throughout this BS process.

They were literally handing out candy to the children during some of the meetings.-Creepy

They were also outraged to learn from their teachers that we are using bombs to fish so they came to lecture us on that policy. Oh and the pizza, candy and games were cool too.

PAL · 10-20-2010, 08:08 PM

Those who came out -

Thank you for sacrificing a day for our way of life.

It was fantastic to see our hardcore, familiar faces who've endured meeting after droning meeting. And just as valued, the new blood. We are grateful for your help.

Great turnout, great comments, but I'd expect nothing less because kayak anglers (and our close friends the free divers), are freedom loving, independent minded, strong of will and spirt, and the best people I know.

It may not seem like we accomplished much - the commission didn't do much more than sit through the legally required public comment. Don't believe it. If we hadn't have showed, we would have certainly lost ground.

We have to do it one more time, Dec 15 or 16 in Santa Barbara of all places. That's MLPA HQ, for us the heart of darkness. Please join me there for the finale.

lamb · 10-20-2010, 04:53 PM

wada circus. Yeah, kids and their "save our coral reefs" cry in these final hours were really the best reflection how distorted and manipulated this whole process is. Mr. Richards asking pretty basic question, to be reminded on % of deep rock reefs addressed, and no one really knowing the answer was pretty funny too! It shows you how much they're really into it. It's one thing that good number of ordinary folks can't put their mind around this whole MLPA process and where it is right now - these folks have been hired to administer the process. They ought to be familiar with key points, despite how complicated and diluted at the same they made it.

It sux when you are fighting a war and you know you are bound to loose, you're just trying to contain your loses and keep chugging on. That's what we seem to be doing.

We're still biting, great show, despite the bussed in kids I think we were there in greater numbers.

Lot's of DFG there. It's cool when you pick up the vibe from the wardens they are on our team. Hear that Wade?

old_rookie · 10-20-2010, 05:18 PM

A student from Hi-Tech High sat next to me. I asked him why he was there. He tells me it is for his government class - so that he can observe the debate. CoastKeepers made a presentation to his class. He was undecided as to which side to take and wanted to hear the other side. After the Hi-Tech High senior spoke, he left. He didn't stay to hear the other side, well... maybe he moved to the back to hear??? I doubt it.

Gino · 10-20-2010, 03:48 PM

I cant even focus on work today... I really wish i could of made it. It was my day off normaly, but Its the biggest work load of the year for me, I had to show up. Imagine the timing...

I seen some pictures on BD of all the shcool children bussed in to the meetings. Thats unreal... I know we have seen it before, but its infuriating.

One of the kids even got up there and said that we fish using bombs...

imagine that.

That stuff really throws me over the edge...

10-20-2010, 03:16 PM	#4
hatchetman Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: lincoln acres Posts: 60	This was my first experience with the process, I really did not understand how deceitful the enviros like cost keepers are. I was sitting in the middle of the audience towards the back where most of the bussed in students ended up. One group, i believe from south west high, did not even know why they were there, in fact they started picking up the signs left from the waterman's alliance and started holding them up until one of their chaperons scolded them. The charter school children really showed how well informed our opposition is, These cute children brought in there dioramas of coral reefs and gave speeches on why we need to save the ones of our coast, I did not think we had coral reefs. coast keepers should be ashamed of them selves for exploiting our children and the school districts involved should be looking at disciplinary action against the teachers. __________________ FAITH, FAMILY, FIREARMS, FISHING When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

10-20-2010, 03:34 PM	#5
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Yes - the eco nazis have exploited young children throughout this BS process. They were literally handing out candy to the children during some of the meetings. -Creepy ---Today I noticed at times their chaperone / guardian ( an English Teacher) had lost possession and became separated from the children. -An offense punishable by firing. ------------------------------------ __________________

10-20-2010, 03:45 PM	#6
mrJB Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: O.C. Posts: 352	What an enlightening experience - to hear about our coastal coral reefs AND to find out where my tax dollars for education are going...! __________________ "I Brake for Halibut"

10-20-2010, 05:36 PM	#7
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Coral reefs in CA That was hilarious. Clay and his buddy Julian were cracking up...pretty pathetic that a teacher is teaching her students that, having them spend all that time on their diaramas, extra work for an extra grade, just to be humiliated. I agree, that teacher should be admonished. Pretty sad, even the boys were commenting on where coral reefs were, naming the places. Guess they are getting a better education... Mr. Richards was classic... (Not verbatim) "So, there are 7 areas that are not sandy bottoms? And are there reserves put in place for each of those 7 areas?" I agree again Adi, hilarious that these people who have (supposedly) been working so hard kept stumbling with their words trying to answer his simple question, and the final comment from the gal was even more pathetic when she complained that she wasn't aware that he was going to ask such a difficult question...maybe because you people have been used to rehearsing the question and answer period! Just shows the bs we are up against. Great seeing familiar faces, Waterman's Alliance, thanks for the grub... To all of the Kids that spoke... Each and every one of you showed more knowledge, more courage, and spoke better than any of the misinformed children that spoke, you should be very proud for standing up for your rights, we are very proud of you. Thank you... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-20-2010, 04:53 PM	#10
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	wada circus. Yeah, kids and their "save our coral reefs" cry in these final hours were really the best reflection how distorted and manipulated this whole process is. Mr. Richards asking pretty basic question, to be reminded on % of deep rock reefs addressed, and no one really knowing the answer was pretty funny too! It shows you how much they're really into it. It's one thing that good number of ordinary folks can't put their mind around this whole MLPA process and where it is right now - these folks have been hired to administer the process. They ought to be familiar with key points, despite how complicated and diluted at the same they made it. It sux when you are fighting a war and you know you are bound to loose, you're just trying to contain your loses and keep chugging on. That's what we seem to be doing. We're still biting, great show, despite the bussed in kids I think we were there in greater numbers. Lot's of DFG there. It's cool when you pick up the vibe from the wardens they are on our team. Hear that Wade? __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

10-20-2010, 06:20 AM	#1
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	I will be there.

10-20-2010, 01:40 PM	#2
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	Sorry guys I had to leave early for a dr appt and x-rays. At least I got to meet a few of you. There were some good speakers representing our community. Didn't know we have coral reefs off our coast in San Diego

10-20-2010, 01:41 PM	#3
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	Good turn out, thanks everyone who showed up or spoke on our behalf.

10-20-2010, 08:08 PM	#9
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Those who came out - Thank you for sacrificing a day for our way of life. It was fantastic to see our hardcore, familiar faces who've endured meeting after droning meeting. And just as valued, the new blood. We are grateful for your help. Great turnout, great comments, but I'd expect nothing less because kayak anglers (and our close friends the free divers), are freedom loving, independent minded, strong of will and spirt, and the best people I know. It may not seem like we accomplished much - the commission didn't do much more than sit through the legally required public comment. Don't believe it. If we hadn't have showed, we would have certainly lost ground. We have to do it one more time, Dec 15 or 16 in Santa Barbara of all places. That's MLPA HQ, for us the heart of darkness. Please join me there for the finale.

10-20-2010, 05:18 PM	#11
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	A student from Hi-Tech High sat next to me. I asked him why he was there. He tells me it is for his government class - so that he can observe the debate. CoastKeepers made a presentation to his class. He was undecided as to which side to take and wanted to hear the other side. After the Hi-Tech High senior spoke, he left. He didn't stay to hear the other side, well... maybe he moved to the back to hear??? I doubt it.

10-20-2010, 03:48 PM	#12
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	I cant even focus on work today... I really wish i could of made it. It was my day off normaly, but Its the biggest work load of the year for me, I had to show up. Imagine the timing... I seen some pictures on BD of all the shcool children bussed in to the meetings. Thats unreal... I know we have seen it before, but its infuriating. One of the kids even got up there and said that we fish using bombs... imagine that. That stuff really throws me over the edge...

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