Know this boundaries. - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Saba Slayer · 07-29-2013, 07:07 AM

Could you imagine how long the resource would last without the stewardship of the DFW and it's wardens?

There is a phrase coined by Garrett Hardin in a 1968 Science magazine article called "The Tragedy of the Commons"...it says "Freedom in a commons brings ruin to all."
The basic tenet of this theory is that unrestricted freedom to use a resource always results in the destruction of that resource. A commons is an unregulated resource that is open to everyone, such as an unfenced cattle range, a pasture in a public square, a vast heard of wild buffalo, a flight of passenger pigeons-and AN UNREGULATED FISHERY.
As RobFish said "It was said before, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about."
Good Luck
Jim / Saba Slayer

bus kid · 07-29-2013, 07:32 AM

If you dont want to deal with the wardens don't hunt, fish or trap.

easyday · 07-29-2013, 07:57 AM

Ive talked the female data collector at least 5x out of dana and shes even been out on the cattle noats with me. She told me herself shes not enforcement, she cant do anything even if people had undersized fish except call the warden and report it. But shes always been super nice and pleasant. Also ive never run into a warden that hasnt been a cool guy. Im actually looking at employment as a game warden.

MotoHero · 07-29-2013, 08:09 AM

I spoke to the guy in the truck at La Jolla a few weeks back; nice enough and just checking out the waterfront. I asked him how the new boundaries were working, he said try to keep about 75 yards beyond the old yellow buoys and you're fine. I described the kelp are I was in he said you are way outside, he mentioned two points of reference; the pier and a building on the point.

Essentially he was informative and pleasant in spite of the gun and such.

The pissing on the tire mentality has no place here at all.

Dwayne

beef78 · 07-29-2013, 01:36 PM

On sunday, she said she was just a biologist with just a few questions. I didn't know if she was trying to get me to slip by thinking she wasn't out to pin me with anything or just doing a survey. She asked me if I had a daily permit or a annual licsense and was surprized to find out that I have a lifetime.

Mahigeer · 07-29-2013, 01:54 PM

If the uniformed person is wearing a gun then he/she is a warden.

If no gun, then it is a surveyor. They don’t issue ticket, but maybe they can call the warden.>>
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Personally I have made friends with several of them, and they have been very courteous.>>
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One of the nicest ones was warden in Catalina. Now he has SD area.>>
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I go fishing to have fun. If I have to worry constantly about getting busted, then it is no fun.>>
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As the TV line went “if you don’t want to do the time, don’t do the crime”.>>

Cbad Mike · 07-29-2013, 04:53 PM

I've had one encounter with a warden at the LJ launch. Nice guy.
I wonder how many idiots get tickets there for no license or bad catches? I personally have never seen anyone fishing inside the buoys. Close to them yes but never straight out poaching.
I follow the rules and LOVE when someone without a license gets busted.
I'm glad they're around and enforcing the law.
Just my 2cents.

07-29-2013, 07:07 AM	#1
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,878	Law of the Commons Could you imagine how long the resource would last without the stewardship of the DFW and it's wardens? There is a phrase coined by Garrett Hardin in a 1968 Science magazine article called "The Tragedy of the Commons"...it says "Freedom in a commons brings ruin to all." The basic tenet of this theory is that unrestricted freedom to use a resource always results in the destruction of that resource. A commons is an unregulated resource that is open to everyone, such as an unfenced cattle range, a pasture in a public square, a vast heard of wild buffalo, a flight of passenger pigeons-and AN UNREGULATED FISHERY. As RobFish said "It was said before, if you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about." Good Luck Jim / Saba Slayer

07-29-2013, 07:32 AM	#2
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	If you dont want to deal with the wardens don't hunt, fish or trap. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

07-29-2013, 07:57 AM	#3
easyday Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,470	Ive talked the female data collector at least 5x out of dana and shes even been out on the cattle noats with me. She told me herself shes not enforcement, she cant do anything even if people had undersized fish except call the warden and report it. But shes always been super nice and pleasant. Also ive never run into a warden that hasnt been a cool guy. Im actually looking at employment as a game warden. __________________

07-29-2013, 08:09 AM	#4
MotoHero Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Temecula Hills Posts: 64	A Warden speaks: I spoke to the guy in the truck at La Jolla a few weeks back; nice enough and just checking out the waterfront. I asked him how the new boundaries were working, he said try to keep about 75 yards beyond the old yellow buoys and you're fine. I described the kelp are I was in he said you are way outside, he mentioned two points of reference; the pier and a building on the point. Essentially he was informative and pleasant in spite of the gun and such. The pissing on the tire mentality has no place here at all. Dwayne

07-29-2013, 01:36 PM	#5
beef78 Large Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: San Diego Posts: 316	On sunday, she said she was just a biologist with just a few questions. I didn't know if she was trying to get me to slip by thinking she wasn't out to pin me with anything or just doing a survey. She asked me if I had a daily permit or a annual licsense and was surprized to find out that I have a lifetime. __________________ "I shall not tiptoe through life to arrive safely at death."

07-29-2013, 01:54 PM	#6
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,910	If the uniformed person is wearing a gun then he/she is a warden. If no gun, then it is a surveyor. They don’t issue ticket, but maybe they can call the warden.>> >> Personally I have made friends with several of them, and they have been very courteous.>> >> One of the nicest ones was warden in Catalina. Now he has SD area.>> >> I go fishing to have fun. If I have to worry constantly about getting busted, then it is no fun.>> >> As the TV line went “if you don’t want to do the time, don’t do the crime”.>>

07-29-2013, 04:53 PM	#7
Cbad Mike Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Carlsbad Ca. Posts: 1,206	I've had one encounter with a warden at the LJ launch. Nice guy. I wonder how many idiots get tickets there for no license or bad catches? I personally have never seen anyone fishing inside the buoys. Close to them yes but never straight out poaching. I follow the rules and LOVE when someone without a license gets busted. I'm glad they're around and enforcing the law. Just my 2cents. __________________ [SIGPIC]

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