11-08-2009, 01:04 PM | #1 |
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And I decided to make a list of some of the Politicians, Corporations and Organizations supporting proposal 3 These are the ones who will not get my VOTE, my MONEY or my SUPPORT! This list is not complete and we would do well to organize it we must never forget these individuals and organizations Regardless of the outcome of this process we need to remember who supported us and who tried to F()&^ us Maybe a list of those who supported us would be a good list have also... For now here is the CHIT LIST: 1. Hewlett Packard 2. World Wild Life Fund 3. Bonnie Lowenthal – Assemblymember 54th District 4. Julia Brownley – Assemblywoman 41st District 5. Wild Coast – wildcoast.net 6. League of Conservation Voters, San Diego County 7. Bill Rosenthal – City of Los Angeles, Councilmember 11th District 8. Audubon Society 9. San Diego Coastkeeper 10. Senator Jenny Oropeza – 28th Senate District 11. Briggs Law Corporation – San Diego, Inland Empire 12. Coastal Environmental Rights Foundation – Encinitas California – cerf.org 13. California Coastkeeper Alliance 14. Santa Barbara Channel keeper 15. San Francisco Baykeeper 16. Orange County Coastkeeper 17. Marine Conservation Institute 18. Santa Monica Baykeeper 19. Marine Conservation Analyst Environmental Defense Center 20. The Ocean Foundation 21. Coare – The Center for Oceanic Awareness Research, and Education 22. Ocean Revolution 23. Bolsa Chica Land Trust – Mesas Wetlands – bolsachicalandtrusrt.org 24. Laguna Ocean Foundation 25. National Resources Defense Council 26. Laguna Blue Belt Coalition – lagunabluebelt.com 27. Tijuana River National Estuarine Research Reserve – tijuanaestuary.org 28. South Laguna civic Association – southlaguna.org 29. Sierra Club 30. Paul Koretz – Los Angeles Councilmember 5th District 31. Friends of the Los Angeles River – folar.org 32. Environmental Entrepreneurs – e2.org 33. Cross River Pictures 34. Industry Entertainment 35. Solazyme Inc. 36. Movidis Inc. 37. Lakeside Enterprises 38. TDKA Group 39. Mythic Records LLC 40. Arcana Herbal Nutritional Pharmacy 41. TLE Properties 42. Prize Capital LLC 43. eSolar 44. Intex Solutions 45. ISE Corp. 46. Segal Enterprises 47. The Sexton Company 48. ClearEdge Power Corp. 49. Virtual Group LLC 50. Sonance 51. Business.com Inc. 52. WilderShares LLC 53. Defenders of Wildlife 54. City of Solana Beach – conditional support 55. City of Santa Monica 56. City of Del Mar 57. Patricia McCoy – Councilmember City of Imperial Beach 58. Friends of Harbors, Beaches, and Parks – LONG LIST OF Supporting Organizations – fhbp.org 59. The Otter Project – otterproject.org 60. The Energy Coalition – energycoalition.org 61. Verna L. Rollinger – Councilmember City of Laguna Beach 62. Bob Blumenfield – Assemblymember 40th District 63. Todd Gloria – Councilmember City of San Diego 64. Gilbert A. Cedillo – Senator 22nd District 65. Coastwalk California 66. Monterey Bay Sanctuary Foundation – mbnmsf.org Someone with better skills than I could maybe organize the list, and update it with more names... For me it was just a start but I can tell you this much... the next time the World Wild Life Fund solicits me... they are going to get a response |
11-08-2009, 01:21 PM | #2 |
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Thanks for the list.
It is sad, as some of the groups on the list are also doing good in trying to prevent destructive fishing practices such as shark finning. While it may be a drop in the swimming pool, I plan to go to their websites and see if they have a section you can send them an e-mail comment about their position on the MLPA. Kevin |
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Strong Work Don, Please Keep "The List" Updated.
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wow..
with all that funding, and organization we're like bringing a dildo to fight with a tank LOL |
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The fact that I had to scroll down to see the entire list just bums me out and definitely puts the fight into perspective....yikes.
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that's just the tip of the ice berg my friend check some of their sites not just the obvious ones (enviros) but the other ones like e2.org or Sexton, http://www.sextonco.com/work.shtml the Eagles and the Jets are just a couple of their clients I hate this chit but the web these people have spun is very impressive we are truly the underdogs I know I will be even more careful of who I support in the future with my money and my vote Personally I hate doing this but maybe it's just the way it is now a days if I really want my kids to have a chance, a chance to experience any of the freedoms I have enjoyed growing up then I will have to resign myself to the fact that this stuff is just part of living in this great country of ours and I have a certain responsibility to be informed and to do my part to fight the radical agenda of the other side... Or I can just ride it out, and keep my mouth shut when things don't go the way I think they ought too... See you Tuesday |
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I love the "Friends of" moniker such BS, how about we start "Friends of Mother Ocean (FOMO)- dedicated to the responsible harvesting and management of our coastal fishery", im sure the lemmings would fall right in line
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I can't seem to edit the old post...
lots of new names to add Start with Cal Oceans - http://caloceans.org/ They ran a full page ad in today's Palos Verdes Peninsula News... Called "Save Rocky Point" they are pushing hard to have more of the Palos Verdes coastline added to the list of closures They want more of La Jolla and Malibu too... Some of the supporters in the ad: http://www.titandivegear.com/ (Titan Dive Gear) http://www.ocpausa.org/ (orange county people for animals) http://www.lacg.net/catalog/index.php (Billy Arcila) http://www.equaticproductions.com/index.html (Equatic Productions) http://www.unifiedteamdiving.com/ (Jeff Seckendorf) and many more... I still hate this chit!
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Good chit Don...
Perhaps if you didn't mind reading all that you wouldn't mind reading all of this...let me save you the trouble, and key in on the important aspect of the BS they are pulling...
I personally copied this from my email, from the North Coast News, since I am on their email list. Bet a bunch of people are thinking oh chit... This is what disturbs me the most, read on... Spread the word
How about increasing the yearly ban? Like I said, read the rest of the email, scary shit just in time for Halloween... Send me your email address and I will be more than happy to forward this to you... During its August 30-31 meeting in Fortuna, the MLPA North Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (NCRSG) completed a single marine protected area (MPA) proposal for the north coast study region’s Round 3 MPA planning process. This significant achievement illustrates the NCRSG members' dedication to working collaboratively and exemplifying a respectful, stakeholder-based process. The Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal and accompanying Round 3 NCRSG Special Closures Recommendation are available at the MLPA website and via MarineMap for review by the public. Over the coming weeks the MPA proposal and special closures recommendation will be evaluated by the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team, California Department of Fish and Game, California Department of Parks and Recreation, and MLPA Initiative staff. The results of these evaluations will help inform the deliberations of the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) at its upcoming meeting in Fortuna on October 25-26. I encourage each of you to provide feedback on the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal and Round 3 NCRSG Special Closures Recommendation. In addition to email, mail and fax, you are invited to share your input via an online form. I look forward to seeing many of you the BRTF meeting later this month, where members of the MLPA North Coast Regional Stakeholder Group will join the task force for presentations and discussion about the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal, associated evaluation results, and what recommendations will be forwarded to the California Fish and Game Commission. ~Ken Wiseman, Executive Director North Coast Regional Stakeholder Group August 30-31, 2010 – Meeting Agenda and Materials The sixth meeting of the MLPA North Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (NCRSG) was held on August 30-31 in Fortuna. During this meeting, the NCRSG completed a single Round 3 MPA proposal to forward to the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force for consideration. Additionally, the NCRSG produced a recommendation for seven year-round or seasonal special closures. During the meeting, the NCRSG:
Members of the NCRSG will join the BRTF at its October 25-26 meeting to help present the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal. Public Meetings All meetings are open to the public and simultaneously webcast on the day of the meeting (field trips not included). Meeting details are available on the MLPA website. To the extent possible, public participation locations are also set up in at least one other city within the study region (Crescent City, Eureka and/or Fort Bragg) to provide members of the public with a stable Internet connection for the webcast and the opportunity to provide comments during the public comment period(s). Meeting agendas are posted to the MLPA website at least 10 days in advance of the meeting. Meeting materials are posted as soon as they become available. In addition to the simultaneous webcast of meetings, the video and audio archives are posted online within two days of each meeting. Wednesday, October 13 – Thursday, October 14, 2010 October 13, 1:00 p.m. October 14, 8:00 a.m. Master Plan Science Advisory Team Red Lion Hotel 1929 Fourth Street Eureka, CA 95501 General public comment on subjects related to the work of the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team (SAT) will be held on Wednesday, October 13 at approximately 3:30 p.m. The public will also have an opportunity to comment on any SAT action items. As an alternative to attending the meeting in Eureka, the public is welcome to attend a “public participation location” to watch a live webcast of the meeting and/or provide public comment: CV Starr Community Center 300 South Lincoln Street Fort Bragg, CA 95437 Flynn Center Multipurpose Room 981 H Street Crescent City, CA 95531 Monday, October 25 – Tuesday October 26, 2010 MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force River Lodge Conference Center 1800 Riverwalk Drive Fortuna, CA 95540 A general public comment session will be held, beginning on Monday, October 25 at approximately 3:30 p.m. The public will also have an opportunity to comment on any BRTF action items. As an alternative to attending the meeting in Fortuna, the public is welcome to attend a public participation location to watch a live webcast of the meeting and/or provide public comment: CV Starr Community Center 300 South Lincoln Street Fort Bragg, CA 95437 Flynn Center Multipurpose Room 981 H Street Crescent City, CA 95531 Top Where are we in the north coast planning process? The MLPA Initiative began the marine protected area (MPA) planning process in the north coast study region in June 2009. Currently, this process in the final stages, or “Round 3,” of developing MPA proposal alternative(s) to forward to the California Fish and Game Commission for consideration. At the upcoming October 25-26 meeting, the MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF) will receive presentations on the Round 3 MLPA North Coast Regional Stakeholder Group (NCRSG) MPA Proposal. The BRTF will review science evaluations conducted by the MLPA Master Plan Science Advisory Team as well as analyses conducted by I-Team staff, the California Department of Fish and Game and the California Department of Parks and Recreation. The meeting will also involve a discussion between the BRTF and members of the NCRSG; this will be an opportunity for BRTF members to gain a better understanding of the key considerations that influenced the MPA proposal design. Using the information obtained from the discussion with NCRSG members, Round 3 evaluation results, and public comment, the BRTF is expected to select a “preferred alternative” MPA proposal. The preferred alternative, along with any other recommendations and/or proposal(s) the BRTF identifies, will be forwarded to the California Fish and Game Commission in early 2011; the commission will then begin regulatory and environmental review processes that are expected to last several months. What are special closures? Special closures are designated in the marine environment to provide geographically-specific protection of resources from human activities. In some instances special closures may offer protection, such as to breeding seabird and marine mammal populations, from geographically-specific threats that are not necessarily addressed by marine protected areas (MPAs), including disturbance. Proposed special closures have been developed by the NCRSG separately from the MPA proposal, but are intended to be considered in conjunction with the proposal. At its August 30-31 meeting, the NCRSG recommended seven year-round or seasonal special closures for consideration by the BRTF. Members of the public are encouraged to review the Round 3 NCRSG Special Closures Recommendation and provide feedback on what has been proposed. How were tribal uses considered in the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal? Members of the NCRSG indicated general support for traditional tribal uses in marine protected areas by adopting two motions at their August 30-31 meeting: (1) a motion recommending that the State of California’s recognize a special category for traditional tribal use (beyond “commercial” and “recreational” types of uses) within MPAs, and (2) a motion that all proposed MPAs include language in the regulations that traditional tribal uses be exercised by members of California tribes and tribal communities. With regard to specific MPAs in the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal, the NCRSG considered tribal uses in a couple of different ways. First, the NCRSG was provided guidance that, under current state law, the California Fish and Game Commission does not have the authority to allow only tribal uses in an MPA. Rather, any proposed non-commercial uses intended to accommodate tribal uses in marine waters must be identified by species and gear type and must apply to all non-commercial (termed “recreational”) users. During its August 30-31 meeting, the NCRSG included a number of MPAs intended to accommodate non-commercial tribal uses. To determine which species and gear types should be allowed to accommodate tribal uses for each MPA, the NCRSG requested that MLPA staff use input from north coast tribes and tribal communities gathered during review of the Round 2 draft MPA proposals (Briefing Document C1; Briefing Document C2). The proposed uses to accommodate tribal uses are listed under “Proposed Allowed Uses (Take Regulations)” in the “Description of MPAs” document and the Round 3 geographic cluster maps. Second, a few MPAs were intended to accommodate tribal uses only when it becomes possible within California legal authority to limit allowed activities to tribes and tribal communities; therefore, at this time these MPAs do not include proposed allowed uses to accommodate tribal activities. How do I provide feedback on the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal? Members of the public are invited to provide both written and/or verbal comments to the BRTF on the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal and Round 3 NCRSG Special Closures Recommendation. Feedback on specific MPAs or special closures, including boundaries, designation type, proposed allowed uses (take regulations) and general location is valuable. The public is invited to share comments the following ways: WRITTEN COMMENTS Written comments are encouraged to be submitted by October 18, 2010 so that BRTF members receive and have an opportunity to review them prior to the October 25-26 meeting. Written comments received between October 19 and 21 will be provided to the BRTF at the October meeting; after October 21, written comments must be received at the BRTF meeting in Fortuna. Written comments can be submitted via: Online: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/round3comments_nc.asp (through October 18 only) Email: MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov Mail: Marine Life Protection Act Initiative c/o California Natural Resources Agency 1416 Ninth Street, Suite 1311 Sacramento, CA 95814 Fax: 916.653.8102, Attn: MLPA Initiative VERBAL COMMENTS MLPA Blue Ribbon Task Force Meeting October 25-26, 2010 River Lodge Conference Center 1800 Riverwalk Drive Fortuna, CA 95540 The public is invited to provide verbal comments at the upcoming BRTF meeting in Fortuna. Wall maps of the Round 3 NCRSG MPA Proposal and Round 3 NCRSG Special Closures Recommendation will be available for public viewing at the meeting location. Public comment will begin at approximately 3:00 p.m. on Monday, October 25, 2010. 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CV Starr Community Center 300 South Lincoln Street Fort Bragg, CA 95437 Flynn Center Multipurpose Room 981 H Street Crescent City, CA 95531 The public will also have an opportunity to comment on any BRTF action items. For more information about providing public comment to help inform the north coast MPA planning process, please contact the Public Outreach and Education Team at 707-832-4088 or via email. Top The success of the MLPA largely depends on the continued involvement of the public. There are a number of ways that members of the public can participate in this process: Stay informed
Providing feedback is one of the most important ways to get involved in the MLPA Initiative. Public comment provided at meetings should be concise and focused on specific ideas or suggestions. While the time available for verbal comments at meetings is usually limited, there is no limit on the length of comments submitted in writing. All written comments can be submitted via email, mail or fax (click here to view north coast written public comments submitted to date): Online: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/round3comments_nc.asp (through October 18 only) Email: MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov Mail: Marine Life Protection Act Initiative c/o California Natural Resources Agency 1416 Ninth Street, Suite 1311 Sacramento, CA 95814 Fax: 916.653.8102 All written comments are compiled on a weekly basis and distributed to the I-Team and MLPA Initiative groups (BRTF, NCRSG and SAT as appropriate). Please do not send comments to SAT or BRTF members directly. Specific opportunities to provide input include:
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The other side is very well-funded.
What we really need to do is get the darkhorse to guide Bill Gates. Once he slays some we'll be in the clear.
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Having friends and family that work directly with the IT industry it was disturbing to see Hewlett Packard on the MLPA supporters list so I emailed HP media relations directly and this was their response:
Hello Mr. Thomson, I believe you’re referring to the David & Lucile Packard Foundation, which is an entirely separate entity from Hewlett-Packard Company. You can find more information about the Packard Foundation, including contact information, at http://www.packard.org. Regards, Gary Rainville HP Upon checking the link provided I found that The David and Lucile Packard Foundation is very much an environmentalist org. I can not find anything in the public comment section of the dfg/mlpa site that directly links HP as a supporter in the mlpa on either side. It seems that as we discuss the factual content of the Eco-Nazis, we should make sure our facts are absolute as well, if we state a link we should provide it. I can not say for a fact that HP is not a supporter of the MLPA, but it does look as if listing them may have been a mistake. I am following up with a reply asking for further clarification on there stand over the MLPA and will post what I find out.
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As far as I'm aware of, there are no lingering Packards on the HP board of directors.
The foundation is the real enemy not the company. However, I guarantee you that a good chunk of the foundation's assets are tied into the HP share price. There are alot of enviros in high places. Even our current CIA director, Leon Panetta, is a major advocate of ocean reform and has many ties to groups that have us in their cross-hairs. He went to my alma-mater and I used to like him. |
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Both Hatchetman and Deepdiver bring up good points. Let me add another. Labeling someone or some group as the enemy simply because they have an association with someone or some group that opposes our point of view is dangerous. We should make sure that we have always the facts in hand before we form an opinion or make an accusation.
Labeling all environmentalists as the enemy is just as big of a reach as saying that HP is against us just because Packard helped found the company. I consider myself an environmentalist and suspect that the majority of my kayak fishing friends share my concerns relating to most environmental issues. One can support protecting the environment without joining the enemy camp. There is a much more reasonable middle ground. The big difference between us and the radicals who we are fighting is perspective. Radicals, whether they are political, religious or environmental all share one common trait. They are mioptic to the point that they cannot see any point of view other than their own. This kind of ignorance creates an enemy that can be difficult to fight. On the other hand, they all have one huge weakness. They cannot stand up to the truth. Let's make sure that we always keep this weapon close by and untarnished. Bob |
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Bump
Because January 1st 2012 is right around the corner.
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Thank you!
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Tell Gates ill cook the catch,,,,
Occupy my OCEAN...... 1.1.12........ what mlpa spread the word,,,, yaks, boats, skifts, tubes, fu$k it ... if it floats fish from it... Im in ,,,, Last edited by ChefT; 12-13-2011 at 08:07 PM. Reason: drunk .... |
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Perhaps a mod could sticky this thread.
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This is a cut and paste from scsurffishing.com forum.
October 20, 2010 RE: Southern California Businesses in Support of Marine Protected Areas To the Members of the California State Fish and Game Commission, A healthy ocean is essential to the protection of a healthy California economy. The undersigned 137 southern California businesses are writing to you as California business owners to express our strong support for the statewide implementation of California’s landmark Marine Life Protection Act. Protecting California’s iconic coastline and preserving critical ocean habitat is not only the right thing to do for the ocean, but is also a sound business decision. According to the National Ocean Economics Program, the California coastal economy is responsible for supporting more than 15 million jobs in 2008 while paying more than $797 billion in wages to those in the sector. Our coastal economy depends on abundant fish and wildlife, healthy ecosystems, and clean beaches and ocean waters. Visitors from around the world come to experience the beautiful and bountiful California coast. They stay in our hotels, eat at our restaurants and spend money on a range of goods and services from postcards to surf lessons. With coastal economic activities accounting for 83 percent of the U.S. economy, ocean protection is good for business. A science-based network of Marine Protected Areas can help safeguard those valuable resources and support the long-term economic vitality of coastal communities. We thank you for your leadership and strongly urge timely implementation of the Marine Life Protection Act statewide as a critical investment in the future of the California economy. Sincerely, Avalon Capital Group Patagonia Horny Toad Active Wear 9MYLES Inc. A Creative Force Adam Neely Fine Art Jewelry, Inc Always Summer Surf AMSOLAR Anacapa Dive Center Anthony Christopher Productions Arcana Herbal & Nutritional Pharmacy Arin Contemporary Art Art Images, Inc. Bailey Gardiner Beyond Fire, LLC Blue Guitar Border Grill UBS Financial Joe Lubardie's Dive & Photo Cabrillo Marine Aquarium California Seashell Co. Captain Jack's Tours C'est Cheese Cherry Moon Shop Clear Edge Power Inc., Mythic Records LLC Contech Stormwater Co-opportunity natural grocer Corporate Development, eSolar Cross River Pictures DeBilzan Gallery Demi Things Drishti Eco Dive Center Ecotopiia Emporio Optic Euphoria loves RAWvolution Falling Star Pottery Frog House GG's Bistro Glitz N Glam Groundswell Technologies Gull Wings Children's Museum Healthy Spot Hike, Bike and Kayak Sports, Inc. Hillary Holeman Surf Design Indian Territory Gallery Innovo Energy Solutions Group, LLC Intex Solutions IP*SEVA ISE Corporation Isla Vista Food Cooperative K Nathan Gallery KAIROS Scientific, Inc. La Jolla Kayak La Jolla Sea Cave Kayaks Laguna Beachwear Lakeside Enterprises Le Merigot Left Turn Light Bulbs Unlimited Living Sea Images Lloyd's Fine Cigars Lola Luna Clothing Lotus East-West Medical Center Mary Osborne Surf School Matthew Meier Photography Mesa Lane Partners, LLC Movidis, Inc. NEI Treatment Systems Newbreak Coffee Newport Bay Hospital Noon Design Inc. Novak Surfboard Designs OB Centric Ocean Adventures Dive Co. Ocean View Hotel One Roof Pacific Edge Gallery Pacific Gallery Plug Clothing Pottery Barn Pourtal Wine Tasting Bar Powerhouse Prescient Technologies Prudential Realty Group R&D Design and Marketing Real Food Daily Reef Seekers Dive Co Reiman-Birney Surf School ReRip Rincon Designs Robert King CPA Rustic Canyon Wine Bar Santa Barbara Adventure Company Scorpioni Italian Leather Seal Beach Music SeaLife Aquarium Segway of Santa Barbara Sheek Inc Silvergreens SolSessions Sonance Spectre Dive Boat Spectre Dive Company Spectrum Consulting Steven Bochco Productions Stone Brewery Studio 7 Gallery Surf Country Surf Diva Surf n Sea, Custom Wetsuits and Repair Surf N Wear's Beach House Tangible Investments TDKA Group Technology Ventures, Prize Capital, LLC. Thalia Surf The Ambrose Hotel The Chakra Shack The Fragrance Boutique The Sexton Company The Stand Restaurant Tidal Influence Treehuggers International UBS Union Ale Brewing Company Universal Music Group Ventures, Prize Capital, LLC Von Hemert Interiors, Laguna Location W.E. Short & Associates Wetsand Surf Shop Wheelhouse Whelan Galleries Wildershares, LLC Wind and Sea International INC. Xanadu Collection ZJ Boarding house Add in Walmart, HP, Apple, Vons and Safeway. I'm sure there are others, feel free to add to the list of legitimate supporters of MLPA closures. I've only patronized 2 on the list ever, so it's easy to take my money elsewhere.
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Thanks for the expanded list.
Sorry to see my favorite beer maker Stone Brewery was a signatory. I won't be buying any more Stone IPA or Arrogant Bastard Ale. Good time to switch to Ballast Point Brewery. |
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