Bait tank turnover rate - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Wyota · 08-27-2016, 12:46 PM

Noob question about bait tank turnover rates as I am working to design a system for my kayak.

Searching online, I have found mainly 2 recommendations for rates, which are wildly different.

One recommendation is turning over the tank volume 42x per hour (so flow rate of 42 x tank volume, e.g. 210 gph for 5 gallon tank)

Another recommendation is gallons divided by .06, which comes up with 83 gph for that same 5 gallon tank, or approximately 17x per hour turnover.

As said, wildly differing recommendations. What's the common consensus on here?

ful-rac · 08-27-2016, 03:08 PM

Don't over think it...

jorluivil · 08-27-2016, 03:50 PM

Yep........you're over thinking it

skrilla · 08-27-2016, 04:06 PM

Eh lots of other variables that make formulas a moot point. Macks, jacks, dines, squid... all devour oxygen at different rates. Water temp can also dictate how much bait your tank can handle.

My tank is a Vittles Vault 25, 360gph pump powered by a 6V 12ah battery. Fills from the top and drains from the top. Little to no circulation. Guess I got lucky with the design as I've only had 1 greenback die on me in 2 years and I suspected that it was the one I badly wounded while unhooking from the sabiki.

Summer temps I keep it to 12 baits max. I have successfully stuffed it to about 20 macks with no casualties. But then again I only average 5-10 baits a session and that counts days where sea lions are in absolute theif mode.

Hope that helps. YMMV.

MITCHELL · 08-27-2016, 04:12 PM

Heart beat rate of mackerel vs sardines x number of baits subtracted from volume cubic oz's of water

YakDout · 08-27-2016, 05:15 PM

From what Ive learned, if your tank takes longer than 7 minutes to start dumping out the overflow, get a bigger pump.

Wyota · 08-27-2016, 06:50 PM

Thanks all. I'll try the lower flow (and hence lower power draw) pump first, and if it fails to keep up, then I'll go to the double flow one (at 3x the power draw).

Saba Slayer · 08-27-2016, 07:07 PM

X-2 same numbers I've heard...even for the big tanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakDout

From what Ive learned, if your tank takes longer than 7 minutes to start dumping out the overflow, get a bigger pump.

08-27-2016, 12:46 PM	#1
Wyota Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 37	Bait tank turnover rate Noob question about bait tank turnover rates as I am working to design a system for my kayak. Searching online, I have found mainly 2 recommendations for rates, which are wildly different. One recommendation is turning over the tank volume 42x per hour (so flow rate of 42 x tank volume, e.g. 210 gph for 5 gallon tank) Another recommendation is gallons divided by .06, which comes up with 83 gph for that same 5 gallon tank, or approximately 17x per hour turnover. As said, wildly differing recommendations. What's the common consensus on here?

08-27-2016, 03:08 PM	#2
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Don't over think it... __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

08-27-2016, 03:50 PM	#3
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Yep........you're over thinking it __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

08-27-2016, 04:06 PM	#4
skrilla Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 664	Eh lots of other variables that make formulas a moot point. Macks, jacks, dines, squid... all devour oxygen at different rates. Water temp can also dictate how much bait your tank can handle. My tank is a Vittles Vault 25, 360gph pump powered by a 6V 12ah battery. Fills from the top and drains from the top. Little to no circulation. Guess I got lucky with the design as I've only had 1 greenback die on me in 2 years and I suspected that it was the one I badly wounded while unhooking from the sabiki. Summer temps I keep it to 12 baits max. I have successfully stuffed it to about 20 macks with no casualties. But then again I only average 5-10 baits a session and that counts days where sea lions are in absolute theif mode. Hope that helps. YMMV. __________________ Urban Camo Trident 13

08-27-2016, 04:12 PM	#5
MITCHELL Sea Hunter Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Where ever I may roam where I lay my head I call home. Posts: 2,269	You forgot to calulate....... Heart beat rate of mackerel vs sardines x number of baits subtracted from volume cubic oz's of water __________________ Duke Mitchell

08-27-2016, 05:15 PM	#6
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	From what Ive learned, if your tank takes longer than 7 minutes to start dumping out the overflow, get a bigger pump.

08-27-2016, 06:50 PM	#7
Wyota Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 37	Thanks all Thanks all. I'll try the lower flow (and hence lower power draw) pump first, and if it fails to keep up, then I'll go to the double flow one (at 3x the power draw).