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Old 12-12-2013, 11:08 AM   #61
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You're more likely to need a lightning rod or a defibrillator before needing to defend against a shark.
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Old 12-12-2013, 11:18 AM   #62
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.... if I am in a situation where I need to shoot something, I would prefer to shoot it at the maximum possible distance from me as possible, so I prefer something with a longer barrel, which most likely would be not concealable....
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Alright it's not like I'm advocating carrying guns for Great White protection because the idea is silly, but if you were kayaking and a Great White was chewing on your yak having a handgun would be better thing to have then a rifle.

A rifle is big, where are you going to put it where you can get it quick when a shark comes out of nowhere and starts chewing your leg.

I wouldn't want to launch with that.

It's not going to fit in the rod holder or even your center hatch. A handgun can be in your pocket, in a holster or in the hatch in front of you.


You shoot a White ten feet away that's swimming towards you you're breaking the law.


The only reason to shoot one is if it's chewing on your yak or leg.

In other words it's going to be very close.

Maybe right next to you, maybe chewing on the yak, maybe chewing on the yak behind your seat. Ever try to shoot something behind you with a rifle?

All this shooting under water stuff is nonsense. If I white is attacking in you end up in the water the best thing you can do is get back in the kayak. Not to mention it's one thing to shoot your favorite AK sitting on the bottom of the pool it's another to be treading water with it waiting for a white to get close enough for it to be effective.

That said if you did end up in the water with a gun in your hand you better hope it's a handgun..



Balance: Paddling a kayak is a learned behavior where you master a assortment of dexterity issues like basic balance. Firing a shotgun or rifle takes a certain amount of balance not to mention the proper stance.



Some Yakkers can loose their sense of balance around threatening wildlife.



Loose your balance with a shotgun or rifle and things can go horribly wrong.



From a boat a rifle makes more sense


but from a Kayak?....


I'm just saying there are places rifles and shotguns don't necessarily belong.
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Old 12-12-2013, 12:41 PM   #63
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:24 PM   #64
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It's funny how someone asks if you can carry and more than half the people here just give reasons why you shouldn't or don't need to. The question is if you can, not why would you need to. In other free states it's not even a question, it's a right and in fact common place. This state used to be that way too but the anti's here are brainwashing people into believing that guns are evil and they don't need to carry, and alot of people believe they don't even have the right.
I didn't get any "anti" firearm vibe with this thread, maybe some questioning the logic of carrying and discharging a firearm in a plastic boat, seems like pretty typical gun talk.
Of course you can carry a concealed firearm on your kayak or anywhere else with the proper permit. Can you prove to the law enforcement agency with jurisdiction that you need one? Perhaps that's the question the OP should be asking.

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Alright it's not like I'm advocating carrying guns for Great White protection because the idea is silly, but if you were kayaking and a Great White was chewing on your yak having a handgun would be better thing to have then a rifle.

....etc....etc....

I'm just saying there are places rifles and shotguns don't necessarily belong.
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Old 12-12-2013, 01:47 PM   #65
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How about a flare gun? Would that deter a shark or piss him off like shoting a grizzly with a 9mm? No-one can argue a flare gun on a vessel.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:08 PM   #66
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i think a gaff from hawaii is your best shot. The long pointy one like a spear.
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:19 PM   #67
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:47 PM   #68
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Old 12-12-2013, 02:58 PM   #69
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kage is safest/cheapest, then bang stick with double safety,or if you fish with team sewer get a tandem kayak with Candy in the back seat with a mask and snorkel on...when you see a big GWS then tell Candy to put her head under water for 10 bucks...

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Old 12-12-2013, 03:11 PM   #70
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What about a bang stick as last resort?
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Old 12-12-2013, 03:27 PM   #71
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You should be packin heat anyway for those asshole halibut that hit the deck.
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Old 12-12-2013, 05:38 PM   #72
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How about a flare gun? Would that deter a shark or piss him off like shoting a grizzly with a 9mm? No-one can argue a flare gun on a vessel.
I keep one attached to the front hatch on the inside. Thought about that last time I had one following me but did want to risk falling overboard to get it + want to keep an eye out for where the shark was approaching me.

I think the boom from the flair gun would detour the shark.

Using a bang stick will likely damage the shark eventually killing it.
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Old 12-13-2013, 03:53 AM   #73
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I keep one attached to the front hatch on the inside. Thought about that last time I had one following me but did want to risk falling overboard to get it + want to keep an eye out for where the shark was approaching me.

I think the boom from the flair gun would detour the shark.

Using a bang stick will likely damage the shark eventually killing it.
I have one that's a touch bigger than a bic pen that the air force issues pilot's.
Shoots a magnsium flare about the size of a 44 mag round. Not a ton of force behind it but is noisy,bright and contiunes burning win it hits water.
I have it clipped to my pfd.
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Old 12-13-2013, 11:19 AM   #74
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For those of you afraid of sharks do not fish with Marines.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ark-BEACH.html
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Old 12-13-2013, 12:53 PM   #75
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All the shark attacks on kayakers up here in NorCal (about 1 a year for the past few years) the shark has hit the kayak with no one ever seeing it. paddler gets launched a few feet in the air and shark bails after leaving a few teeth in your bow. Only in one case did the shark turn around and take a second nibble on the kayak. In these attacks nothing you can do will prevent it or help you defend against it other than not being in the water. I would rather take steps toward keeping my kayak afloat. What good is a pistole going to do when its in your kayak underwater?
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Old 12-13-2013, 02:41 PM   #76
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For those of you afraid of sharks do not fish with Marines.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ark-BEACH.html
that's very lowprofile like. It must be in the water.
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:16 PM   #77
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With all due respect....
(Hell, who am I kidding? Don't care if you feel respected..)




Please don't start bringing guns on the kayak with you...couple reasons:

We do not need to give the anti fishing community another reason to get our sport banned or scrutinized any more.

The mental stability of many members on here makes me worry more about what they would do to another person, than what they would do to a GWS. No one should have to worry whether that psycho on the other kayak is going to pull his gun if I accidentally get a little to close to "HIS" fishing turf.


Leave the guns at home boys...you'll shoot your eye out!
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Old 12-13-2013, 09:31 PM   #78
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Once again StinkyMatt has stumbled onto the truth. Everyone move along. There's nothing more to see here.

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Old 12-14-2013, 01:34 AM   #79
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Lollipop crypts vs. the sewer bloods
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I don't want to be caught in the crossfire from the paddle-by shootings. I'll have to wear my Bulletproof Life Vest just to travel through the LJ hood.

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