I love tourist..... - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

THE DARKHORSE · 07-05-2008, 10:58 PM

Not only do they provide great entertainment while I prepare to launch, but are generally happy to take a photo. Another empty afternoon with no kayak fisherman and a couple of boats. The sporties were gone after 4:00p.m. and the Yellowtail came out to play.

I could of caught as many as I wanted, but had more important things to do. Like peddle for my life, since I neglected to properly fasten my drain plug

. I turned around and noticed my fish was dragging in the water (hmmmm, that's funny) and freaked when I opened my center hatch (half full of water

). Survival mode kicked in and I started bailing as fast as I could. Dumped my bait, emptied the tank, and peddled past quite a few lucky schools of Yellowtail on my way in. They were taunting me, and gave me a virtual escort half the way home. The good news is that my kayak passed the "fill up with water test" at home. I have a good idea where I'll be sunday afternoon, how about you?

amsurferoceanbeach · 07-06-2008, 08:13 AM

Nice

You need to buy a 16$ hand operrated bilge
pump.

TheSherThang · 07-06-2008, 08:38 AM

Great report

. Makes me want to drive down from Los Angeles for a shot at the YTs

. Definitely get a handpump. Even a water gun from ToysRUs can act like a bilge pump in a pinch.

If I head down, I'll be on channel 72 and fishing from a red Malibu X-Factor. Give me a holla!

Matt · 07-06-2008, 10:18 AM

Don't worry Josh I got a bilge pump you can use!! Of course then you would actually need a radio to call someone over!lol Nice catch man!

THE DARKHORSE · 07-06-2008, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt

Don't worry Josh I got a bilge pump you can use!! Of course then you would actually need a radio to call someone over!lol Nice catch man!

Thanks Matt, but I think I'm going to hire DGAX. If anyone can install a rooster-tail internal 500GPH bilge system, complete with cockpit "that was easy red button", it's him. The last thing I want is another scare like that when I'm 25 miles offshore chasing tuna with the Hobie sailing model. I know I can swim for days if I have too, but never want to impersonate a top water plug to the wrong kind.

dgax65 · 07-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Big red buttons in the cockpit are so old school. Could I interest you in a bilge pump with an automatic float switch?

Don't even have to worry about turning it on.

How about a 10 gallon per MINUTE bilge pump?

We could rig the overboard discharge from the rear deck. You would look like a Yamaha Waverunner spittin' a rooster tail.

bajadog · 07-06-2008, 04:15 PM

blackcloud9 · 07-06-2008, 09:09 PM

Nice fish Josh.

Saw your post, and I went out and looked around outside off WindanSea this afternoon (Sunday), 2 - 7 pm.

Got a couple little scoops of sardines from a departing PB, slow trolled dines while catching a few rockfish for dinner on the bottom (110'+plastics). The bull kelp is sure healthy outside the kelp line.

Late evening, I saw some moving bait and some "noses" puddling around, fired the Tady 45 and got bumped, but missed. Beautiful evening on the water.

Just had a red snapper fer dinner ... mmmmm.

Willy · 07-07-2008, 05:01 PM

Hey darkhorse, what did you catch that yellow on?
Just curious.
Thanks,
Willy

THE DARKHORSE · 07-07-2008, 10:22 PM

Thanks for the idea Doug, automatic float switch, that's a good one. After thinking about it, the 12gph is probably plenty, but I would still prefer overkill. In case of a real emergency situation 25 miles offshore, I'm going with the 500gph (the Yamaha look). I wouldn't mind turning the pump off after it did it's job, in short order.

Willy, I caught this fish on the flyline, 10" Greenback, #1 owner hook, on #30 flouro, in 90ft, around the 3/4. That afternoon I peddled past close to ten different schools of Yellowtail. Some were pretty stealthy, quietly puddling with a slight (but obvious) surface disturbance. A couple other schools didn't have a care in the world, violently boiling on surface bait, and moving plenty of water around.

I was out this afternoon (monday) with no boats, and no signs of life on the surface (major change from the past couple of days). A strong uphill current and a distinct visability line around the 1/2 (from 5-8ft vis at the condo then close to 15ft vis around the 3/4). No guarantee, but any day now could go off. Good luck!

bajaboy · 07-08-2008, 05:02 PM

An old retired merchant told me once..."A scared man with a bucket will out bail any pump!".........

cajunman · 07-09-2008, 08:54 AM

If you have a bait tank pump on board, consider rigging so you can simply take it out of the bait tank and use as a bilge,
(using an old back packing adage of having two or more uses for everything you carry)

glenniesan · 07-09-2008, 12:07 PM

Nice one man! We were paddling the AM shift all over place por nada!! Way to get on em!

dgax65 · 07-09-2008, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cajunman

If you have a bait tank pump on board, consider rigging so you can simply take it out of the bait tank and use as a bilge,
(using an old back packing adage of having two or more uses for everything you carry)

I tried that with a bait tank that I made a few years ago. I put a 3-way valve set-up on the pump intake line. (you can see the 3-way at the bottom of the picture)

I just wanted a way to pump out the bait tank at the end of the day. This could work as a bilge pump, but it wouldn't be practical with most kayak designs.

With a slightly longer intake hose you could reach the rear hatch on an X-Factor or an eXtreme. You would need a rediculously long intake or a removable pump/power supply to reach the center hatch on most other kayaks.

I toyed with the idea of installing a bilge pump for a while. In theory, it makes a lot of sense to have one. There are, however, some practical issues that make it difficult. I noticed that my Kayatank fills about 3/4 full as soon as I sit on my kayak. That water comes through the intake pump. That could happen in reverse with a bilge pump. Water could enter through your overboard discharge fitting and backflow through the pump, flooding the kayak. You need a good stop-check valve or a discharge plug to prevent this from happening. Even I have my limits for added weight and complexity. I just carry a trusty hand pump.

07-06-2008, 08:13 AM	#2
amsurferoceanbeach Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ocean Beach San Diego Ca Posts: 110	Where you gonna be Nice You need to buy a 16$ hand operrated bilge pump. Last edited by amsurferoceanbeach; 07-06-2008 at 09:58 AM.

07-06-2008, 01:42 PM	#6
dgax65 Guerro Grande Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 629	Big red buttons in the cockpit are so old school. Could I interest you in a bilge pump with an automatic float switch? Don't even have to worry about turning it on. How about a 10 gallon per MINUTE bilge pump? We could rig the overboard discharge from the rear deck. You would look like a Yamaha Waverunner spittin' a rooster tail. __________________ Douglas Gaxiola Team No Fish- Amateur Staff

07-06-2008, 04:15 PM	#7
bajadog I eats what I kills Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 393	__________________ Please release bill-fish.

07-06-2008, 09:09 PM	#8
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Nice fish Josh. Saw your post, and I went out and looked around outside off WindanSea this afternoon (Sunday), 2 - 7 pm. Got a couple little scoops of sardines from a departing PB, slow trolled dines while catching a few rockfish for dinner on the bottom (110'+plastics). The bull kelp is sure healthy outside the kelp line. Late evening, I saw some moving bait and some "noses" puddling around, fired the Tady 45 and got bumped, but missed. Beautiful evening on the water. Just had a red snapper fer dinner ... mmmmm. __________________ Larry. Hobie Revolution 13. 25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla. https://larryl.com/photos

07-07-2008, 10:22 PM	#10
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	Thanks for the idea Doug, automatic float switch, that's a good one. After thinking about it, the 12gph is probably plenty, but I would still prefer overkill. In case of a real emergency situation 25 miles offshore, I'm going with the 500gph (the Yamaha look). I wouldn't mind turning the pump off after it did it's job, in short order. Willy, I caught this fish on the flyline, 10" Greenback, #1 owner hook, on #30 flouro, in 90ft, around the 3/4. That afternoon I peddled past close to ten different schools of Yellowtail. Some were pretty stealthy, quietly puddling with a slight (but obvious) surface disturbance. A couple other schools didn't have a care in the world, violently boiling on surface bait, and moving plenty of water around. I was out this afternoon (monday) with no boats, and no signs of life on the surface (major change from the past couple of days). A strong uphill current and a distinct visability line around the 1/2 (from 5-8ft vis at the condo then close to 15ft vis around the 3/4). No guarantee, but any day now could go off. Good luck! __________________

07-05-2008, 10:58 PM	#1
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	I love tourist..... Not only do they provide great entertainment while I prepare to launch, but are generally happy to take a photo. Another empty afternoon with no kayak fisherman and a couple of boats. The sporties were gone after 4:00p.m. and the Yellowtail came out to play. I could of caught as many as I wanted, but had more important things to do. Like peddle for my life, since I neglected to properly fasten my drain plug . I turned around and noticed my fish was dragging in the water (hmmmm, that's funny) and freaked when I opened my center hatch (half full of water ). Survival mode kicked in and I started bailing as fast as I could. Dumped my bait, emptied the tank, and peddled past quite a few lucky schools of Yellowtail on my way in. They were taunting me, and gave me a virtual escort half the way home. The good news is that my kayak passed the "fill up with water test" at home. I have a good idea where I'll be sunday afternoon, how about you? __________________ Last edited by THE DARKHORSE; 07-05-2008 at 11:15 PM.

07-06-2008, 08:38 AM	#3
TheSherThang Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 82	Great report . Makes me want to drive down from Los Angeles for a shot at the YTs . Definitely get a handpump. Even a water gun from ToysRUs can act like a bilge pump in a pinch. If I head down, I'll be on channel 72 and fishing from a red Malibu X-Factor. Give me a holla!

07-06-2008, 10:18 AM	#4
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	Don't worry Josh I got a bilge pump you can use!! Of course then you would actually need a radio to call someone over!lol Nice catch man!

07-07-2008, 05:01 PM	#9
Willy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: La Jolla Posts: 189	Hey darkhorse, what did you catch that yellow on? Just curious. Thanks, Willy

07-08-2008, 05:02 PM	#11
bajaboy Junior Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7	An old retired merchant told me once..."A scared man with a bucket will out bail any pump!".........

07-09-2008, 08:54 AM	#12
cajunman Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 150	If you have a bait tank pump on board, consider rigging so you can simply take it out of the bait tank and use as a bilge, (using an old back packing adage of having two or more uses for everything you carry)

07-09-2008, 12:07 PM	#13
glenniesan Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Marcos Posts: 37	Nice one man! We were paddling the AM shift all over place por nada!! Way to get on em!