Rod suggestions for new SXJ - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

goldenglory18 · 02-07-2017, 05:25 PM

All,

Just found a steal of a deal on a new in box (not a blem!) AVET SXJ.

Whats a decent rod pairing for this reel? My two main "needs" I have left are a 40lbs setup and a bottom jig / H/XH rig.

Thanks!

YakDout · 02-07-2017, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenglory18

All,

Just found a steal of a deal on a new in box (not a blem!) AVET SXJ.

Whats a decent rod pairing for this reel? My two main "needs" I have left are a 40lbs setup and a bottom jig / H/XH rig.

Thanks!

The reel is probably a little small considering the size of the spool to fish big fish off the bottom, so Id use it as your 40 setup. The rod depends on if you are gonna be jig slingin with it or fishin bait. If bait, I like the phenix blanks. Something like the 7'6" or 8' black diamond in M or MH. If for jigs (not yoyo jigs) id go with a calstar or seeker all glass blank. 8' - 9'. Something like 20-40lb or 20-50lb blank.

fishnfoool · 02-08-2017, 10:32 AM

That reel will easily hold over 200 yards of 65lb braid and you could use a short top shot of braid or flouro for bottom fishing.
I would recommend any of the shimano terez rods that fit yourspecifications and it will be a great lightweight combo with more than enough backbone to lift big fish off the bottom.

jorluivil · 02-08-2017, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fishnfoool

That reel will easily hold over 200 yards of 65lb braid and you could use a short top shot of braid or flouro for bottom fishing.
I would recommend any of the shimano terez rods that fit yourspecifications and it will be a great lightweight combo with more than enough backbone to lift big fish off the bottom.

I have an SXJ and I believe Tony has a few as well, those reels hold more than enough line for a big fish. Fishnfoool is correct on the total yards, the SXJ is rated to hold 230 yards of 50lb spectra. Even if your reels only held 150 yards of line you'd still be good, even with a big fish. If you hook a fish that spools all of your 200+ yards of spectra on the SXJ you're not landing that fish, period. I've landed several fish on my Shimano Cardiff 400 and it holds less line than the SXJ.

jorluivil · 02-08-2017, 03:29 PM

As far as rods go its hard to say what will work for you, we all have different fishing styles and use different rods to target different fish. My preference is something that has fast action, they are far more sensitive and will help drive the hook into the fish faster than a rod that has medium action.

YakDout · 02-08-2017, 04:05 PM

Dont know about you guys, but ive had big yellowtail strip 100 yards of line like it was nothing. If your yoyo fishing in close to 300 feet of water, which is definitely not unheard of, well you do the math..couple months of cutting off knots or cutting out bad line.. Im not knocking the reel, it just wouldnt be my go to bottom fishing rig. I guess on a kayak we can get away with a little more than boat fishing since we get pulled around.

2-Stix · 02-08-2017, 04:38 PM

The SXJ is their jig reel...but it comes with a reel seat and no clamp as it is intended for bass fishing. I have a few Avets. All with clamps. I run a sx for light flylining, mxj for irons, mxl raptor for dropper looping, bottom fishing and jx for heavy flylining.

Graftecs are a great value. If not, I go Cal-Star.

fishnfoool · 02-08-2017, 07:07 PM

I have caught plenty of yellowtail with my sx (not sxj) but in essence same reel. Largest yellowtail was 42lbs, it towed my kayak around for a while but did not take more than 50 yards of line. I was fishing 65lb braid with 3 feet of 40lb flouro and just put a lot of drag on him.
That is just my personal experience, but I have no problem with big fish on my small reels. I have been using my jx 6/4 on the 100 plus pound tuna and had no problems.
I think most people just don't put on enough drag for the game they are going after. You just need to stop that initial run quick as you can

jorluivil · 02-08-2017, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fishnfoool

I have caught plenty of yellowtail with my sx (not sxj) but in essence same reel. Largest yellowtail was 42lbs, it towed my kayak around for a while but did not take more than 50 yards of line. I was fishing 65lb braid with 3 feet of 40lb flouro and just put a lot of drag on him.
That is just my personal experience, but I have no problem with big fish on my small reels. I have been using my jx 6/4 on the 100 plus pound tuna and had no problems.
I think most people just don't put on enough drag for the game they are going after. You just need to stop that initial run quick as you can

the largest fish that I've caught on my smallest reels was a 42lb WSB on a shimano cardiff 400. I recall that shortly after I landed and secured that fish I dropped another bait, as soon as the bait hit bottom I checked the drag on the reel and didn't realize how much drag I had on that fish.

h2ofishfo · 02-08-2017, 11:53 PM

X3 on the reel more than enough line if you get spooled your plain not puttin the wood to it or your letting him run with your bait till he digests it and it's half way out the butthole

goldenglory18 · 02-09-2017, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

...The rod depends on if you are gonna be jig slingin with it or fishin bait.

If bait, I like the phenix blanks. Something like the 7'6" or 8' black diamond in M or MH.

If for jigs (not yoyo jigs) id go with a calstar or seeker all glass blank. 8' - 9'. Something like 20-40lb or 20-50lb blank.

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Originally Posted by fishnfoool

I would recommend any of the shimano terez rods that fit yourspecifications and it will be a great lightweight combo with more than enough backbone to lift big fish off the bottom.

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Originally Posted by YakDout

Graftecs are a great value. If not, I go Cal-Star.

Thanks, guys.

The Graftechs I've seen at Turners seem to be a decently put together stick. Maybe I'll take another look at those and see if one fits my fancy.

2-Stix · 02-09-2017, 01:15 PM

I have been close to spooled on the sx a few times...BUT it was not on a yak, 25-35# yellows on a 10 pack I fish monthly at the Channel Islands. I could not stop them. I had the recommend 9# drag set with 30# floro. I think in a yak its another story. I forgot that detail. It does change the game. I set my drag to the 25-33% range of the leader. All backed with 65# braid.

YakDout · 02-09-2017, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2-Stix

I have been close to spooled on the sx a few times...BUT it was not on a yak, 25-35# yellows on a 10 pack I fish monthly at the Channel Islands. I could not stop them. I had the recommend 9# drag set with 30# floro. I think in a yak its another story. I forgot that detail. It does change the game. I set my drag to the 25-33% range of the leader. All backed with 65# braid.

Which is exactly what you want to do to not lose a fish. 1/4- 1/3 drag to lb line ratio.

goldenglory18 · 02-10-2017, 04:19 PM

....and after stopping by a local Big 5 today (I haven't been in one since I was a kid) now I'm seriously considering moving this new SXJ to my MH Proetus and buying a $60 Penn Rampage H for my Saltist 20LW. That stick wasn't the prettiest to look at but it seemed like a steal and I've heard those things are built like tanks...

YakDout · 02-10-2017, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenglory18

....and after stopping by a local Big 5 today (I haven't been in one since I was a kid) now I'm seriously considering moving this new SXJ to my MH Proetus and buying a $60 Penn Rampage H for my Saltist 20LW. That stick wasn't the prettiest to look at but it seemed like a steal and I've heard those things are built like tanks...

60 bucks? Are you sure its not a blem?

goldenglory18 · 02-10-2017, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by YakDout

60 bucks? Are you sure its not a blem?

It was at Big 5...........so probably.

02-07-2017, 05:25 PM	#1
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	Rod suggestions for new SXJ All, Just found a steal of a deal on a new in box (not a blem!) AVET SXJ. Whats a decent rod pairing for this reel? My two main "needs" I have left are a 40lbs setup and a bottom jig / H/XH rig. Thanks!

02-08-2017, 10:32 AM	#3
fishnfoool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long beach Posts: 297	My 2 cents That reel will easily hold over 200 yards of 65lb braid and you could use a short top shot of braid or flouro for bottom fishing. I would recommend any of the shimano terez rods that fit yourspecifications and it will be a great lightweight combo with more than enough backbone to lift big fish off the bottom.

02-08-2017, 03:29 PM	#5
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,855	As far as rods go its hard to say what will work for you, we all have different fishing styles and use different rods to target different fish. My preference is something that has fast action, they are far more sensitive and will help drive the hook into the fish faster than a rod that has medium action. __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

02-08-2017, 11:53 PM	#10
h2ofishfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santee Posts: 821	X3 on the reel more than enough line if you get spooled your plain not puttin the wood to it or your letting him run with your bait till he digests it and it's half way out the butthole __________________ GABE<@)((((>€~~~~team ?????uuuh it's fishing

02-08-2017, 04:05 PM	#6
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	Dont know about you guys, but ive had big yellowtail strip 100 yards of line like it was nothing. If your yoyo fishing in close to 300 feet of water, which is definitely not unheard of, well you do the math..couple months of cutting off knots or cutting out bad line.. Im not knocking the reel, it just wouldnt be my go to bottom fishing rig. I guess on a kayak we can get away with a little more than boat fishing since we get pulled around.

02-08-2017, 04:38 PM	#7
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	The SXJ is their jig reel...but it comes with a reel seat and no clamp as it is intended for bass fishing. I have a few Avets. All with clamps. I run a sx for light flylining, mxj for irons, mxl raptor for dropper looping, bottom fishing and jx for heavy flylining. Graftecs are a great value. If not, I go Cal-Star.

02-08-2017, 07:07 PM	#8
fishnfoool Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Long beach Posts: 297	I have caught plenty of yellowtail with my sx (not sxj) but in essence same reel. Largest yellowtail was 42lbs, it towed my kayak around for a while but did not take more than 50 yards of line. I was fishing 65lb braid with 3 feet of 40lb flouro and just put a lot of drag on him. That is just my personal experience, but I have no problem with big fish on my small reels. I have been using my jx 6/4 on the 100 plus pound tuna and had no problems. I think most people just don't put on enough drag for the game they are going after. You just need to stop that initial run quick as you can

02-09-2017, 01:15 PM	#12
2-Stix Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 376	I have been close to spooled on the sx a few times...BUT it was not on a yak, 25-35# yellows on a 10 pack I fish monthly at the Channel Islands. I could not stop them. I had the recommend 9# drag set with 30# floro. I think in a yak its another story. I forgot that detail. It does change the game. I set my drag to the 25-33% range of the leader. All backed with 65# braid.

02-10-2017, 04:19 PM	#14
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	....and after stopping by a local Big 5 today (I haven't been in one since I was a kid) now I'm seriously considering moving this new SXJ to my MH Proetus and buying a $60 Penn Rampage H for my Saltist 20LW. That stick wasn't the prettiest to look at but it seemed like a steal and I've heard those things are built like tanks...