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Old 03-12-2016, 03:33 PM   #1
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Fish ID?

Can you identify this fish? C&R'ed Thurs at Dana Point. Taken on sardine near bottom. Considered it being a young BSB (which have highly variable patterns) but doesn't fit descriptions or pics in my 3 ichthyology references.
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:43 PM   #2
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Those spots are tell tale. Bsb


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Old 03-12-2016, 03:46 PM   #3
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why would you put that on a stringer?


I've been told by DFW that once a fish is on a stringer that its "in your possession" so I'm not really sure where they fall if you "C&R'd" it


probably did it more harm than good....
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Old 03-12-2016, 03:56 PM   #4
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OP--I would delete this post if I were you.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:00 PM   #5
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BSB, no doubt about it.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:02 PM   #6
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Fish ID?

We were spear fishing in Catalina and got boarded by DFG. All was good with us but they did mention that the boat fishing 100 yards from us caught and kept a baby/young BSB thinking it was something else which according to the DFG netted that fisherman a minimum of a $3k fine and could go upwards of $10k depending on other circumstances

When in doubt don't even bring it on board to remove the hook. If I can't absolutely ID a fish it won't ever leave the water
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:28 PM   #7
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Nothing but a head shake from me.
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Old 03-12-2016, 04:39 PM   #8
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OP--I would delete this post if I were you.

I wouldn't suggest that either. You could be interfering with a justice investigation if someone has forwarded to DFG. This thread is getting dicey.




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Old 03-12-2016, 05:42 PM   #9
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Really, someone here would do that?
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:37 PM   #10
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Purple spotted grouper!
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Old 03-12-2016, 06:45 PM   #11
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Remember when you did not know?

I'm sure he won't do it again.

Just realized there are two anglers. Hmmmm. Both guys not knowing ??????????????
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:35 PM   #12
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When uncertain, release.

Please look at the regulations and check out the proper methods for cpr.
A stringer is for retention and can damage the gils, thus lowering the chance of survival.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:43 PM   #13
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I wouldn't suggest that either. You could be interfering with a justice investigation if someone has forwarded to DFG. This thread is getting dicey.


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So how exactly would deleting this post be interfering with an investigation that may or may not be taking place ? Oh yes i forgot this is bwe and you guys know everything , dude can and should delete it , as he has every right to not self incriminate himself , now ... Why in the hell would you throw a fish that you can't positively id but think it might be a bsb on a game clip ? Then go post a picture on a website full of cry babies? now you've got assholes like me rolling their eyes and asking themselves wtf is this guys malfunction? I mean this right here takes a special kind of stupid, if it's on the clip, it's considered taken by dfg and even with a successful release you can still possibly be cited and fined.
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Old 03-12-2016, 07:48 PM   #14
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why would you put that on a stringer?


I've been told by DFW that once a fish is on a stringer that its "in your possession" so I'm not really sure where they fall if you "C&R'd" it


probably did it more harm than good....
I did not catch the fish or put it on a stringer. Another kayaker saw me fishing nearby and came over to ask what it was. I wasn't absolutely sure but suggested it could be a bsb. I asked if I could take a pic to ID at home and he decided to release it in case I was right. Originally I couldn't find a matching description or pic but tonight I found the exact picture (in Field Guide to Pacific Coast Fishes, Eschmeyer et al) labeled as a junior Giant Sea Bass (aka BSB). I'm innocent!

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Old 03-12-2016, 07:48 PM   #15
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That is an easy 24,000 dollar fine. This has all the makings of Nat Geo
Wild justice realty show. Get your pop corn ready boys!

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Old 03-12-2016, 07:53 PM   #16
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So how exactly would deleting this post be interfering with an investigation that may or may not be taking place ? Oh yes i forgot this is bwe and you guys know everything , dude can and should delete it , as he has every right to not self incriminate himself , now ... Why in the hell would you throw a fish that you can't positively id but think it might be a bsb on a game clip ? Then go post a picture on a website full of cry babies? now you've got assholes like me rolling their eyes and asking themselves wtf is this guys malfunction? I mean this right here takes a special kind of stupid, if it's on the clip, it's considered taken by dfg and even with a successful release you can still possibly be cited and fined.
Anyway, they watch us with drones now anyway, so "what difference does it make?"

We're all guilty of something bad enough to put us away.

And get those damn seals that eat BSB too!

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FWIW:

https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/...tfish/Sea-Bass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_sea_bass

https://www.google.com/search?q=gian...w=1408&bih=758







http://kcbx.org/post/californias-gia...ear-extinction


... and for free bonus points at no additional charge, please tell me if these are Giant Black Sea Bass or Gulf Grouper?

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Old 03-12-2016, 08:05 PM   #17
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i got one of those out of Newport two weeks ago, first thought was grouper or some type of rock fish. Glad I let the little guy go.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:00 PM   #18
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tastes like bald eagle....
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:41 PM   #19
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Anyway, they watch us with drones now anyway, so "what difference does it make?"

We're all guilty of something bad enough to put us away.

And get those damn seals that eat BSB too!

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FWIW:

https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/Fishing/...tfish/Sea-Bass

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_sea_bass

https://www.google.com/search?q=gian...w=1408&bih=758







http://kcbx.org/post/californias-gia...ear-extinction


... and for free bonus points at no additional charge, please tell me if these are Giant Black Sea Bass or Gulf Grouper?

Looks like gulf. Maybe not even a gulf actually, but definitely not a BSB.
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:45 PM   #20
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Jesus!! You guys sure do go hard on people on here. Not everyone is a professional, or educated on every species of fish. I'm new around here and this site has been my go to place to learn and prepare myself whenever I hit the water. I've never caught a bsb or wsb (never targeted these fish) and I rely heavily on post like this to learn so that I don't make the same mistakes. Therefore, I hate to see people become hesitant when posting threads like these. Makes me nervous thinking about posting my catches this season. Actually, makes me nervous posting this. Not here to stir things up, I just wanna fish

Thanks for sharing. I learned a lot from this thread
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