Hobie rudder line replacement - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Iceman · 01-09-2012, 02:23 PM

I just changed out rudder lines for a customer and snapped a few photos.

Typically the only area prone to wear is the 6 inches exposed in the rear. Untie the knotted ends and back out the phillips head retaining bolt, that has a wrap of line held taught.

You don't need to replace ALL the line, there is a section that makes things much simpler, the loop cinches the line with an overhand knot so it can't slip.........kind of like a back to back uni knot but this one can easily be pulled apart to change out. The crank and steering handle do not need to be touched, eliminating peeling off the decal, backing out the allen head, pressing through the retaining clip, pulling out the spring and crank assembly. The lines are attached to the crank via crimp and loop. Likely never to fail you.

The end cap and o ring removed from the tubing and threaded on the control line make for an easy install.

Just center the rudder and set the tension, tighten the bolts and check if all good tie off the knots.

11 feet of line will give you a little to spare for the Outback, add a couple feet for the Revo 13, After cutting the line just hit the ends with a lighter to keep em from fraying. Cost you about $4 for the line, always in stock. I do this for $25.

mtnbykr2 · 01-09-2012, 02:52 PM

I have been having trouble with my rudder not locking down thus loosing
right rudder, is it lines? or is the little notch that the sailing rudder locks into worn out, I know ifthe lines arent adjusted it will happen but it seems like the rudder isn't locking into position I will be out your way next weekend but I know weekends are busy, do you think you could take a look and if so what do you think it will cost...about

coxtanker421 · 01-09-2012, 03:09 PM

ugly thing when on open water. thx for you expertise ,and sharing. hopefully this can be done as preventive, at your shop , prior to real problem.

coxtanker421 · 01-09-2012, 03:12 PM

add a little lotion to hands.

Iceman · 01-09-2012, 04:18 PM

sun dried leather hands.

Over time the rudder will wear to where it does not snap in the down position. Just lock the rudder down like this.

mtnbykr2 · 01-09-2012, 04:30 PM

'08 lever type not pull cords

RedSledTeam · 01-09-2012, 06:40 PM

I had the same problem on my '08 Outfitter with the levers. The only thing I could do is to tie the rudder lines with more tension from the internal bungie so that the increased tension holds the rudder down or up, but the trade-off is it is pretty difficulty to stow and deploy.

Iceman, is there a way to convert from levers to the new pull chords? Or should I remove the fishing rods and install a newer kayak?

Iceman · 01-10-2012, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Iceman, is there a way to convert from levers to the new pull chords?

You could buy all the components, but it would take some modifications to make it work. More than I would want to take on.

kareem korn · 01-10-2012, 08:23 AM

While on the subject. I got my wife a new hobie sport (I think). The rudder pull down is cool. But, it takes alot of pull to get the rudder up (

). So much so that it seems like something is going to give.
Normal?

Iceman · 01-10-2012, 10:36 AM

Try loosening the pivot bolt the the rudder swings on

kareem korn · 01-10-2012, 10:55 AM

Thanks.

kobra · 01-10-2012, 04:46 PM

Just in time. Thanks for posting that Andy. Just noticed some fraying on my cables.

Regor · 01-10-2012, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kareem korn

While on the subject. I got my wife a new hobie sport (I think). The rudder pull down is cool. But, it takes alot of pull to get the rudder up (

). So much so that it seems like something is going to give.
Normal?

Had the same issue on mine. Ended up needing a bit of maintenance. The lines that run around the rotating half of the rudder we're screwed up.

Here's how to R&R, about 3/4 of the way down the page. Titled "Twist and Stow Connections Detail".
http://2010.archive.hobiecat.com/sup...al.html#rudder

kareem korn · 01-11-2012, 05:07 AM

and thank you too.

mtnbykr2 · 01-16-2012, 11:38 AM

Hey a big shout out to Andy at OEX Sunset bch, for fixing my rudder with a few adjustments that evidentally I didn't do right, stopped in to say hi and he was on it, it was nice meeting you Andy, thanks for the help, it has been quite a few trips out without having to have somebody push my rudder down...worked perfect both days in Dana...thanks again...
P.S shoulda went with just a bit lighter spinner baits for the rods I brought, worked great for the turds though

01-09-2012, 02:23 PM	#1
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	Hobie rudder line replacement I just changed out rudder lines for a customer and snapped a few photos. Typically the only area prone to wear is the 6 inches exposed in the rear. Untie the knotted ends and back out the phillips head retaining bolt, that has a wrap of line held taught. You don't need to replace ALL the line, there is a section that makes things much simpler, the loop cinches the line with an overhand knot so it can't slip.........kind of like a back to back uni knot but this one can easily be pulled apart to change out. The crank and steering handle do not need to be touched, eliminating peeling off the decal, backing out the allen head, pressing through the retaining clip, pulling out the spring and crank assembly. The lines are attached to the crank via crimp and loop. Likely never to fail you. The end cap and o ring removed from the tubing and threaded on the control line make for an easy install. Just center the rudder and set the tension, tighten the bolts and check if all good tie off the knots. 11 feet of line will give you a little to spare for the Outback, add a couple feet for the Revo 13, After cutting the line just hit the ends with a lighter to keep em from fraying. Cost you about $4 for the line, always in stock. I do this for $25. __________________

01-09-2012, 02:52 PM	#2
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	I have been having trouble with my rudder not locking down thus loosing right rudder, is it lines? or is the little notch that the sailing rudder locks into worn out, I know ifthe lines arent adjusted it will happen but it seems like the rudder isn't locking into position I will be out your way next weekend but I know weekends are busy, do you think you could take a look and if so what do you think it will cost...about __________________

01-09-2012, 03:09 PM	#3
coxtanker421 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 270	thx for sharing ugly thing when on open water. thx for you expertise ,and sharing. hopefully this can be done as preventive, at your shop , prior to real problem.

01-09-2012, 03:12 PM	#4
coxtanker421 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 270	manicure add a little lotion to hands.

01-09-2012, 04:18 PM	#5
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	sun dried leather hands. Over time the rudder will wear to where it does not snap in the down position. Just lock the rudder down like this. __________________

01-09-2012, 04:30 PM	#6
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	'08 lever type not pull cords __________________

01-09-2012, 06:40 PM	#7
RedSledTeam Daddeo Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: OC Posts: 660	lever tension I had the same problem on my '08 Outfitter with the levers. The only thing I could do is to tie the rudder lines with more tension from the internal bungie so that the increased tension holds the rudder down or up, but the trade-off is it is pretty difficulty to stow and deploy. Iceman, is there a way to convert from levers to the new pull chords? Or should I remove the fishing rods and install a newer kayak?

01-10-2012, 08:23 AM	#9
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	While on the subject. I got my wife a new hobie sport (I think). The rudder pull down is cool. But, it takes alot of pull to get the rudder up (). So much so that it seems like something is going to give. Normal?

01-10-2012, 10:36 AM	#10
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,943	Try loosening the pivot bolt the the rudder swings on __________________

01-10-2012, 10:55 AM	#11
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	Thanks.

01-10-2012, 04:46 PM	#12
kobra Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: oceanside Posts: 880	Just in time. Thanks for posting that Andy. Just noticed some fraying on my cables.

01-11-2012, 05:07 AM	#14
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	and thank you too.

01-16-2012, 11:38 AM	#15
mtnbykr2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: newbury park ca Posts: 2,323	Hey a big shout out to Andy at OEX Sunset bch, for fixing my rudder with a few adjustments that evidentally I didn't do right, stopped in to say hi and he was on it, it was nice meeting you Andy, thanks for the help, it has been quite a few trips out without having to have somebody push my rudder down...worked perfect both days in Dana...thanks again... P.S shoulda went with just a bit lighter spinner baits for the rods I brought, worked great for the turds though __________________