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Old 08-10-2017, 08:28 AM   #1
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after looking the loader types some more, I came to the conclusion that making a complicated contraption for side load is probably a net loss on the cost:benefit front. I think instead, I'll try to load from the back hatch, and maybe extend the yakima bars if needed.

this is the current thinking:

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Old 08-10-2017, 08:50 AM   #2
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After loading a PA14 on top of my GMC Envoy (about 7 ft height on racks)and hurting my Achilles I carpeted a couple 2x4s and added a ladder hook to each so I could slide the kayak up easier by myself. It helps a lot, but I ended up getting a trailer for the PA.

I think the hitch-mounted Tbar would be a good bet. You could use the rollers to get the first yak loaded and then flip it into the J racks.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:05 AM   #3
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Now i just need to clear enough of the garage out to get my welder out, and then reclaim my CO^2 tank from my kegerator.

I will say this. it warms my heart to know that i'm not the only one that struggles with manhandling the kayaks..
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:45 AM   #4
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Now i just need to clear enough of the garage out to get my welder out, and then reclaim my CO^2 tank from my kegerator.

I will say this. it warms my heart to know that i'm not the only one that struggles with manhandling the kayaks..
Yeah, it may not seem that bad when you are loading up, excited about going out the next day. But when you get back and are tired from a day on the water it is a different story.
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Old 08-10-2017, 09:52 AM   #5
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Yeah, it may not seem that bad when you are loading up, excited about going out the next day. But when you get back and are tired from a day on the water it is a different story.
Same with me. I NEVER have problems loading up to head out. It's always at the end of a long day, when I'm dog tired, and its breezy outside. LOL

This is the exact reason I tell every newbie to make sure you have comfortable handle the boat dry. It's a PITA to load after a day's worth of paddling....



OH, I absolutely HATED loading loading the Malibu yak. It was an absolute barge both on land and in the sea....
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:03 AM   #6
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OH, I absolutely HATED loading loading the Malibu yak. It was an absolute barge both on land and in the sea....
are the Malibus more difficult than others? they seem to be "relatively" light compared to other comparable length kayaks?
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:18 AM   #7
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are the Malibus more difficult than others? they seem to be "relatively" light compared to other comparable length kayaks?
I had a really hard time managing mine when I had it. I think it has a lot to do with the 14'+ length and the 33ish" width. Any boat that size is going to be awkward as heck to lift after a long and breezy day....
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Old 08-10-2017, 10:50 AM   #8
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Good Idea but...

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after looking the loader types some more, I came to the conclusion that making a complicated contraption for side load is probably a net loss on the cost:benefit front. I think instead, I'll try to load from the back hatch, and maybe extend the yakima bars if needed.

this is the current thinking:

I made one similar to the Rhino T-load hitch mount, and I like it for my outback onto a CR-V. It also works for two yaks with J hooks, but not quite as easy. Two differences from your design that you might consider. Instead of rollers, make the t bar wider and put a wide cargo strap across to nest the yak. Then you can slide it to either side for loading onto J hooks. Also, like the Rhino, I can lower the T-bar to about 45 degrees to make it much easier to get the nose of the kayak onto the strap. Then as you push the kayak up, the T-bar moves up so the yak clears the roof. It saves on the high up work. If you need I can send a pic of mine later. Good luck.
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Old 08-10-2017, 12:07 PM   #9
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I made one similar to the Rhino T-load hitch mount, and I like it for my outback onto a CR-V. It also works for two yaks with J hooks, but not quite as easy. Two differences from your design that you might consider. Instead of rollers, make the t bar wider and put a wide cargo strap across to nest the yak. Then you can slide it to either side for loading onto J hooks. Also, like the Rhino, I can lower the T-bar to about 45 degrees to make it much easier to get the nose of the kayak onto the strap. Then as you push the kayak up, the T-bar moves up so the yak clears the roof. It saves on the high up work. If you need I can send a pic of mine later. Good luck.
I'd love to see how your's is set up.

i actually had not seen the Rhino T-load setup, but that give me better ideas!
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Old 08-22-2017, 08:16 AM   #10
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so, the J-hooks were a no-go. gave it one more try with the wife and it was a disaster. I threw something together with 2x4 blocking, some hardware i had around the house, and some schedule 40 2" pvc pipes.

it's a tight squeeze, and i'm going to be getting more schedule 40 tubing from IMS to extend the bar so that it's not so tight fitting, but it worked. it was easy to just prop the bow over my head and slot it onto the PVC carriage I made, and then just get to the stern and push the yak up. it goes on so smoothly, that I think i need to add something to stop it from going too far over the front!

the carriage then detaches from the back and I can put it on the other side and load the other yak. it's ugly, but it works!





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Old 08-22-2017, 12:10 PM   #11
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Nice setup man
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