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Old 05-23-2015, 12:59 PM   #1
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Punta Chivato

I am going to head over to Punta Chivato for 2 or 3 days of fishing. Does anyone have any first hand knowledge of camping facilities, preferably close to a launch site?
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Old 05-23-2015, 05:50 PM   #2
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Pm'd you Rossman. Jim
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Old 05-23-2015, 06:06 PM   #3
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What about the rest of, we might be interested also. Come on Jim YOU know there are others out here in BWE land who would put your information to great use.
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Old 05-24-2015, 09:44 PM   #4
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Hey Mako RoberMissingToe,

Okay, I'm aging myself out but way back in the day, Punta Chivato was our go-to spot. Very good fishing for Yellows, dorado, etc...if conditions were right, skiff fishing though. I remember watching the Bulls games with MJ every year at the restaurant overlooking Bahia Concepcion, no place more beautiful.

Anyways, there was a Baja beat writer at Western Outdoor News named Fred Hoctor (RIP) who would sometimes mention the big grouper at Punta Chivato. Back then, Fred/WON would post his phone number with his weekly column. So I called him just before a trip and he answered. I asked him about it. He was happy to give me very clear directions with some details:
-Use a broom stick rod
-Take the biggest reel I had and turn the star drag down as tight as possible
-And when I'm done tightening the drag, get a wrench and hit the star drag a few more times to make sure the drag was really tight, lol
-He assured me that I would get bit
-Fred told me to hold onto the rod
He also assured me I would not be landing any of these grouper
He told me to find the spot by heading....blah, blah, blah...I've written too much already and boring you with such minuscule details.

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Old 05-25-2015, 08:01 AM   #5
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Hey Mako RoberMissingToe,

Okay, I'm aging myself out but way back in the day, Punta Chivato was our go-to spot. Very good fishing for Yellows, dorado, etc...if conditions were right, skiff fishing though. I remember watching the Bulls games with MJ every year at the restaurant overlooking Bahia Concepcion, no place more beautiful.

Anyways, there was a Baja beat writer at Western Outdoor News named Fred Hoctor (RIP) who would sometimes mention the big grouper at Punta Chivato. Back then, Fred/WON would post his phone number with his weekly column. So I called him just before a trip and he answered. I asked him about it. He was happy to give me very clear directions with some details:
-Use a broom stick rod
-Take the biggest reel I had and turn the star drag down as tight as possible
-And when I'm done tightening the drag, get a wrench and hit the star drag a few more times to make sure the drag was really tight, lol
-He assured me that I would get bit
-Fred told me to hold onto the rod
He also assured me I would not be landing any of these grouper
He told me to find the spot by heading....blah, blah, blah...I've written too much already and boring you with such minuscule details.

Jim
Been there, done that. After that Jim you need to get a BIGGER wrench and tighten it some more. About the only way to get those fish were to make them chase your offering, that way they were coming toward you when they got hooked, then pray you could keep them coming up. TOUGH FISH..
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Old 05-25-2015, 12:19 PM   #6
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pumping grouper out of the rocks?!?!

show me your grouper spot so i can force feed him some steel
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Old 05-25-2015, 01:36 PM   #7
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70-75' Danno. If you can hit that depth, let's go. Easily yakable. Jim
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Been there, done that. After that Jim you need to get a BIGGER wrench and tighten it some more. About the only way to get those fish were to make them chase your offering, that way they were coming toward you when they got hooked, then pray you could keep them coming up. TOUGH FISH..
This is something I'd like to try on a skiff sometime but I think the laws of physics would make it impossible to land one of these things on a kayak. Possibly under perfect conditions on one of those wider peddle thingys but I know that it is virtually impossible for me on my kayak to break 50 lb string when snagged on the bottom. Now picture 80 or 100 lb string with buttoned down drag and the snag actually moving quickly in another direction. I can visualize a few outcomes and all of the them are bad.
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This is something I'd like to try on a skiff sometime but I think the laws of physics would make it impossible to land one of these things on a kayak. Possibly under perfect conditions on one of those wider peddle thingys but I know that it is virtually impossible for me on my kayak to break 50 lb string when snagged on the bottom. Now picture 80 or 100 lb string with buttoned down drag and the snag actually moving quickly in another direction. I can visualize a few outcomes and all of the them are bad.
Ross that is the reason you NEVER see me fishing anything over 25 lb test. Been there.
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Ross that is the reason you NEVER see me fishing anything over 25 lb test. Been there.
I fish almost exclusively with a 40 lb topshot down here and I think it gives me a punchers chance at some of these mules off the reefs and I can break 40 lb test on my kayak should I get snagged. You have to be very careful when the line for finally parts because the momentum will throw to over the he other side of the the yak.
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70-75' Danno. If you can hit that depth, let's go. Easily yakable. Jim





Cake. How many hours south of BOLA is that?
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I fish almost exclusively with a 40 lb topshot down here and I think it gives me a punchers chance at some of these mules off the reefs and I can break 40 lb test on my kayak should I get snagged. You have to be very careful when the line for finally parts because the momentum will throw to over the he other side of the the yak.
Ross with the 25lb test I just reverse my drive and back up until it pops, rod tip pointed low towards the bow. Safer for me that way.
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I posted this same question on Baja Nomads and got a lot of good information about the he area. If anyone wants to read, here is the link.
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=78970

I am heading over there on Monday for 2 or 3 days. Report when I get back.

Had a great day on the water today. Flat calm and no wind til noon which has been very unusual lately. Was able to land and release 3 yellows. Largest at 34 lbs and smallest at 21 lbs. Will post some pics early tomorrow morning when my data speed is a bit better.
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